Voice Actor Daman Mills Accused of Sexual Misconduct - Ironic, isn't it?

Allanon said:
The ANN poster revealing that ANN was inaccurate about its reporting? Must be Daman or Ron! After all, ANN is trustworthy and has never in the past been caught using inaccurate, incomplete, or straight up false information in their reports before.
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You do realize that poster said they've seen the Cease & Desist letter, something only a handful of people would have access to, right?
Not to mention the poster expects everyone to take them at face value since they never clarified who they were.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
You do realize that poster said they've seen the Cease & Desist letter, something only a handful of people would have access to, right?
Not to mention the poster expects everyone to take them at face value since they never clarified who they were.
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Okay so, if they never clarify who they are...
How did Daman know who it was? :thinking:
 
Lone Dogma said:
what's the illegality of sexting a minor and what would this get Daman?
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If the minor sent any pictures of themselves to Daman, that's distribution and possession of child pornography.

That can range from like.....a 1 to 10 years, roughly speaking. That's not the real punishment, though. When you go to jail, your life is over temporarily with the silver lining that when you leave, you can roughly return to what you were doing before or work up to that.....but when you go to jail for child-related offenses, your life is permanently over. If you aren't murdered in jail and you're released, you're on a registry for the rest of your life. Everybody will know what you did and you won't be able to live in peace. Daman's career as a voice actor would be over. Anything even tangentially related to anime, over. Most jobs regardless of pay, over.

You're just fucked for life, might as well move to Alaska.
 
Allanon said:
Okay. Weeb Wars. Just because you don't like someone or he looks like a freak does not automatically make accusations against him true. Consider how dumb you are when you insist that Vic is innocent because of how little evidence exists against him (that is nothing + proven false evidence) and then in the same breath go 'but even slightly more evidence than Vic must prove the accused is guilty of everything'.

Worse than the lack of evidence, people have now come to the thread and revealed where Trayce was lying in places and the response from people here has mostly been "Oh wow! You must be Ron or Daman!" or cope like "Oh well I mean it's misleading but he's not actually lying so it's fine". Trayce retracted his accusations almost immediately after being exposed, rather than providing more evidence, and the thread immediately decided that Daman must have bribed or intimidated Trayce into silence with all of his money and anime industry contacts. The ANN poster revealing that ANN was inaccurate about its reporting? Must be Daman or Ron! After all, ANN is trustworthy and has never in the past been caught using inaccurate, incomplete, or straight up false information in their reports before.

Stop and consider for a moment: if you swap out your names to line up with Vic and one of his accusers, are you saying literally the same thing that kickvic would be saying? If you are, you're probably saying something stupid. Also. It's been three years since kickvic started. You can, at least sometimes, maybe just once in a while, not bite on literally, every. single. bait post. I can assure you that at least eight out of ten people who show up with a "lol vic rapist" post in any given thread do not actually think this is true and are in fact completely indifferent to 'random old weeb actor guy' except that it gets the maximum number of people upset with the minimum amount of effort.

By rating this post you are agreeing to no longer bite at every single bait you see. At least skip a few sometimes.
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Is there publicly available evidence that Vic sexted a 15 year old? There is with Daman. Let me put it to you like this, if you caught someone trying to diddle a 15 year old, would you do nothing because you don't want to look like a KV member or would you be round their house with a baseball bat?
Clint's Burden said:
If the minor sent any pictures of themselves to Daman, that's distribution and possession of child pornography.

That can range from like.....a 1 to 10 years, roughly speaking. That's not the real punishment, though. When you go to jail, your life is over temporarily with the silver lining that when you leave, you can roughly return to what you were doing before or work up to that.....but when you go to jail for child-related offenses, your life is permanently over. If you aren't murdered in jail and you're released, you're on a registry for the rest of your life. Everybody will know what you did and you won't be able to live in peace. Daman's career as a voice actor would be over. Anything even tangentially related to anime, over. Most jobs regardless of pay, over.

You're just fucked for life, might as well move to Alaska.
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Lol. Thanks Clint.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
You do realize that poster said they've seen the Cease & Desist letter, something only a handful of people would have access to, right?
Not to mention the poster expects everyone to take them at face value since they never clarified who they were.
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I'm aware, but much of the 'the poster is sus' posts happened before they exposed as much info as they have more recently. In a vacuum it'd be fine, but it's one more stick on the pile of people in denial because the accusations aren't turning out to be the bombshell everyone wants them to be. And while it does limit the person's identity, it doesn't actually have to be Daman. It could be anyone Daman shared the letter with. And just because they're sympathetic to Daman doesn't make their information untrustworthy, anymore than Huber being sympathetic to Vic makes his information untrustworthy.

Lone Dogma said:
Is there publicly available evidence that Vic sexted a 15 year old? There is with Daman. Let me put it to you like this, if you caught someone trying to diddle a 15 year old, would you do nothing because you don't want to look like a KV member or would you be round their house with a baseball bat?

Lol. Thanks Clint.
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It'd be hard to find evidence that Vic sexted a kid before texting existed, seeing as you'd need to find evidence of Vic texting someone while he was nineteen to be comparable to Daman's situation. Also, you're still missing the point: more evidence than Vic does not mean automatically guilty. You haven't caught Daman doing anything except being skeevy toward someone of a comparable age to him in a way that might or might not be reciprocated. If you tried to beat a 19 year old with a baseball bat because he flirted with a 15 year old you'd just end up in prison and looking stupid.
 
 
Meiwaku said:
Okay so, if they never clarify who they are...
How did Daman know who it was? :thinking:
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I'm talking about this:
Panera Bread said:
The throwaway account connected to Mills is blasting ANN in the comments again. This person hasn't just seen the cease and desist, they're discussing what Mills' lawyers wrote in their e-mails. Daman's only statement has been that he was advised not to comment, yet someone who intimately knows exactly what his lawyers have/have not done is mouthing off in the Anime News Network forum of all places. Maybe this is some paralegal employed by the law firm he hired, but I think there's a better chance it's Daman himself. Lawyers take care of their clients, but would they really be shitting on Lynzee in the middle of the night?

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Who is this ANN poster and why should they be believed?
 
Allanon said:
It'd be hard to find evidence that Vic sexted a kid before texting existed, seeing as you'd need to find evidence of Vic texting someone while he was nineteen to be comparable to Daman's situation. Also, you're still missing the point: more evidence than Vic does not mean automatically guilty. You haven't caught Daman doing anything except being skeevy toward someone of a comparable age to him in a way that might or might not be reciprocated. If you tried to beat a 19 year old with a baseball bat because he flirted with a 15 year old you'd just end up in prison and looking stupid.
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Daman messaged a 15 year old, allegedly with the intent of hooking up with him. Vic allegedly got angry with con staff and ate a jelly bean. Whether or not Daman's guilty is up to a court of law, but do you not see a slight difference in the crimes alleged and the evidence provided?

Anyways, a lot of what's going on here is just playing devil's advocate to expose the hypocrisy of KV.
 
If you are mildly attractive just never go near a voice actor and you will not be sexually assaulted... Well, I guess that advice isnt relevant on this forum.
 
xyz741 said:
As far as I know, at the time alleged, Daman Mills was living in Texas. Age of consent in Texas is 17. Regardless, this brings two thoughts to my mind (but YMMV). First: I think it's creepy if you think anyone under 18 (regardless of the local age of consent) is "fair game", some anime fans like to claim that the age of consent in Japan is 14 and other people rightfully point out that it's creepy as shit to take that as a plus. Second: again, Daman lived in Texas at the time which had an age of consent of 17, and it is ultra-sketch for someone to go to another state specifically because it has a LOWER age of consent.

If you want to argue "legally ok", then that's on your conscience, but that's like saying you want to go visit some third world country because there it is legal for you to rape and abuse women.
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Legitimately interested in your thoughts, why is 16 or 17 "creepy" and apparently vastly so compared to 18, when lower than 18 is more common than 18, and both are arbitrary numbers with no research or reasoning


How about 17 and a half? Is there a specific moment, or is it literally when the clock strikes 18 yo exactly?
 
Lone Dogma said:
Daman messaged a 15 year old, allegedly with the intent of hooking up with him. Vic allegedly got angry with con staff and ate a jelly bean. Whether or not Daman's guilty is up to a court of law, but do you not see a slight difference in the crimes alleged and the evidence provided?

Anyways, a lot of what's going on here is just playing devil's advocate to expose the hypocrisy of KV.
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You're really not getting the point that whether or not there is sufficient evidence to say Daman did it has nothing whatsoever to do with Vic. It's not a competition. You seem to believe I'm arguing 'if you think Vic is innocent you must think Daman is innocent'. I'm saying the two situations are not connected at all. The evidence provided for Daman's case is weak, and it doesn't get stronger just because you can find another case with even less evidence. You can play devil's advocate for KV if you want to, but I don't buy that everyone conspiracy posting is just doing it for the memes.
 
I disagree with the fact that it has 'nothing' to do with Vic. They are comparable situations, especially since Daman has commented on Vic in the past and said something along the lines of 'Victims should be listened to'. Something he didn't hold up.

There is more evidence than Vic - who had his career ruined. The fact Daman sent a cease and desist does strike a cord with me, and likely others too that it does seem like an odd move for someone who said the victim comment. But, what do I know? I'm just some fag on the internet watching this shitshow.

That being said, I do agree with the sentiment that it's not a competition.

So, who thinks Daman is going to be let off? I find it odd how Vic got his career destroyed from false allegations, but people like JYB and Robbie Daymond didn't. Was it because of the hundreds who claimed the big bad Lasagna Man touched them in their dreams?

Edit: Didn't add the quote. I'm fucking retarded.
 
W-I-Z said:
I find it odd how Vic got his career destroyed from false allegations, but people like JYB and Robbie Daymond didn't.
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JYB and Robbie Daymond work for Disney These two have the power of the Mouse House Lawyers and could've destroyed their accusers in court if they had did what Vic had done.
Haberkorn also works for big companies with enough law power to make Lemoine and Douchette shit their pants.
 
Allanon said:
You're really not getting the point that whether or not there is sufficient evidence to say Daman did it has nothing whatsoever to do with Vic. It's not a competition.
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I know that you're trying to basically be the bigger man here, but you have to remember that KV are a bunch of slimy, disingenuous bottom feeders who'll always view ISWV as literally NSDAP.
Allanon said:
You seem to believe I'm arguing 'if you think Vic is innocent you must think Daman is innocent'.
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No, I just say that if the other side is using fire, and you have a fire, might as well use it. Plus seeing all these KV people expose their hypocrisies is really funny and tells you what kind of people they are (though monica and jamie's podcast has already done a good job of that. Again, how did their lawyers allow them to make it?)
Allanon said:
I'm saying the two situations are not connected at all.
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A supporter of KV is accused of doing worse things than the guy he dunked on. Both have also been accused of sexual assault. How aren't they connected?
Allanon said:
The evidence provided for Daman's case is weak, and it doesn't get stronger just because you can find another case with even less evidence.
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Evidence found on Trayce's facebook at least verifies some of what he claimed. But looking at this from a neutral standpoint, Daman at the very least comes across as a jealous ex type. Daman's behaviour is a bit suspicious for someone who didn't sa Trayce. That, or he needs a new PR manager who's at least competent enough to tell him to deny everything, because messaging a minor with the perceived intent of hooking up with them is equally as bad as the sa accusation, in the public's eyes at least.
Allanon said:
but I don't buy that everyone conspiracy posting is just doing it for the memes.
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You'll find that in any group.
 
quickthrowaway said:
Frankly, I think this would've been dropped after a couple more weeks. They won't say it but Funimation management and talent learned from the Vic fiasco to shut up when it comes to their clique being in the spotlight. Had they stuck to their guns, I think Mills would've been allowed to creep on underage boys in peace.

However, due to recent developments they have guaranteed this shit won't get dropped. Which is good cause it absolutely shouldn't. The guy is absolutely being strong armed. The only question is by who.
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It's either by Funi staffers (the obvious choice), Sony themselves (a stretch, but given their track record for fuckups and trying to cover them up, would be possible candidate), or a third party, but I doubt we'll ever know.

This is pretty sketch regardless, and even if he's not being blocked and dropped the case by himself, why? Pedophilia isn't something that should be dealt with lightly, or even dropped. By dropping it, it sets a precedent that people can get away with this shit with no problem, and seemingly confirms that Vic wasn't spared from the scorn less because of his touchy-feely nature, and more due to either his religion, or because the others just hated him and his presence.
 
Clint's Burden said:
It's illegal just in the United States in general to do this. It's a federal crime to transport or arrange to see minors in states where the age of consent is lower. Has been since the 80's roughly, under the Mann Act. It technically falls under sex trafficking of minors.

That's my understanding of it, but I'm not terribly knowledgeable on the topic of U.S law, so grain of salt.
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Pretty sure the Mann Act was amended in 1986 so that crossing state lines, be it yourself or a minor, in order to engage in any illegal activity with a minor is considered a federal offense.
 
W-I-Z said:
So, who thinks Daman is going to be let off? I find it odd how Vic got his career destroyed from false allegations, but people like JYB and Robbie Daymond didn't. Was it because of the hundreds who claimed the big bad Lasagna Man touched them in their dreams?
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IIRC, Robbie Daymond's accusations were proven to be 100% false and the lady made them up in the wake of the KV movement because she wanted attention and followers. People were ready to drop him back then and asked for some proof, she couldn't provide any and when speculation got too great, she fessed up to making it up because she wanted that sweet internet attention.
Robbie was also a smaller actor than Vic, in terms of popularity. He only recently hit his boom as he had just finished voicing Prompto of FFXV. It's not surprising that his accusations went nowhere because they were blatantly false with nothing to back it, and he wasn't as popular as Vic.
The heffers who accused Vic abused the hell out of that jellybean clip as "proof" which was why it was so widespread, and it was an easy way for girls to get attention so they also went full in.
 
W-I-Z said:
So, who thinks Daman is going to be let off? I find it odd how Vic got his career destroyed from false allegations, but people like JYB and Robbie Daymond didn't. Was it because of the hundreds who claimed the big bad Lasagna Man touched them in their dreams?
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I'm surprised you didn't mention Quinton Flynn or Todd Haberkorn (despite efforts by Jessie Pridemore and Adam Sheehan).
 
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