Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

What are you talking about? 2AM is peak shitposting hours for NEETs living in the basement. Euros just woke up for work and can't be bothered until at least a few more hours

I was going to say something about how in the last thread, somebody mentioned Kiwifarms has the most activity during USA business hours and how Eurofags lamented only outside USA business hours was when "real" conversation happened and that Americans fucked it up mostly during our American hours. From what I'm seeing, the American hours were less (or about as shitty) as our current Eurofag business hours right now (based on the last 24 hours). Every fucking European I met online and in IRL has a retarded sense of supremacy even though we're all nigger apes here. Come on fuckers!

Frankly, I don't trust any news or any source about this war, given the skull-fuckery propaganda and agenda-pushing. It IS hella entertaining though, haha

In more "informative" news, the BBC News ass-cancer stopped talking about the Mauripol Hospital with ~400 civilians held hostage by Russians who captured it. Maybe it was resolved hours ago? IDK -- it looks like the Beebs cares more about the "Let It Go" girl escaping to /pol/land and the same sob-war-mongering stories from over 24 hours ago than an actual goddamn hospital with goddamn civilians.

I want this fucking war to end just to know WTF is actually going on...

 

[The Foldless Brain]

They've been handing out weapons to civilians so they can fight the Russians so clearly their defense plan doesn't just rely on skilled armed forces and includes anybody who wants to fight and is able to, something that you are capable of. That is the point.

The Ukrainian defense plan relies on enough babushkas being run over by tanks for the West to go "Sheeit, who cares about MAD, let's go in!". It's based entirely on fomenting atrocity propaganda and so @Vince McMahon has actually done more than anyone else in this thread for world peace by leaving and not being killed by Russians so his body can be used to agitate for WW3.

 

[Kenya Jones]

Just saying that it doesn't take much to outright say, on publicly accessible channels that the russian govt will be able to see, that there's no chance of a NATO alliance and that they intend to remain neutral.

Being "on the fence" doesn't work for buffer states.

That's not even remotely a comparable situation in world history.

Well I still do not believe NATO would have let Ukraine in, that would definitely kick of WWIII. But yes, I agree, being on the fence doesn't work for buffer states.

God damn it you fucking retards, keep your shit flinging to a minimum, some people have insomnia and are trying to find a pleasant thread to fall asleep to!

My bad.

Seems to be going well for the DPR and LPR though, because one secessionist movement failed, that means no one should ever try it again?

Probably would have failed too if it wasn't a barely alive movement propped up by one of the biggest countries in the world.

People hate Zelensky because the retard helped drag Ukraine into this conflict and participated in his country turning into a nice little spot for American politicians to do corrupt shit and enrich themselves. Now he’s trying to start world war three to bail him out because he thought he could piss off russia as much as he wanted without facing consequences.

I mean Zelensky became president in 2019, the country was already a spot for corruption if the Hunter Biden stuff is anything to go off of.

He can defend, or save, his country by surrendering and ceasing all this bloodshed. It's on him, honestly.

I say this with all due respect but this is the dumbest take I have seen of this conflict yet.

They've been handing out weapons to civilians so they can fight the Russians so clearly their defense plan doesn't just rely on skilled armed forces and includes anybody who wants to fight and is able to, something that you are capable of. That is the point.

Fun Fact: You can have a ton of skilled fighters and also have a large unskilled force!

I was going to say something about how in the last thread, somebody mentioned Kiwifarms has the most activity during USA business hours and how Eurofags lamented only outside USA business hours was when "real" conversation happened and that Americans fucked it up mostly during our American hours. From what I'm seeing, the American hours were less (or about as shitty) as our current Eurofag business hours right now (based on the last 24 hours). Every fucking European I met online and in IRL has a retarded sense of supremacy even though we're all nigger apes here. Come on fuckers!

Frankly, I don't trust any news or any source about this war, given the skull-fuckery propaganda and agenda-pushing. It IS hella entertaining though, haha

In more "informative" news, the BBC News ass-cancer stopped talking about the Mauripol Hospital with ~400 civilians held hostage by Russians who captured it. Maybe it was resolved hours ago? IDK -- it looks like the Beebs cares more about the "Let It Go" girl escaping to /pol/land and the same sob-war-mongering stories from over 24 hours ago than an actual goddamn hospital with goddamn civilians.

I want this fucking war to end just to know WTF is actually going on...

I just want this war to end because of the unnecessary bloodshed.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I was going to say something about how in the last thread, somebody mentioned Kiwifarms has the most activity during USA business hours and how Eurofags lamented only outside USA business hours was when "real" conversation happened and that Americans fucked it up mostly during our American hours. From what I'm seeing, the American hours were less (or about as shitty) as our current Eurofag business hours right now (based on the last 24 hours). Every fucking European I met online and in IRL has a retarded sense of supremacy even though we're all nigger apes here. Come on fuckers!

Coming to a section of a site literally named the "autistic thunderdome" expecting calm, measured disagreement spackled sparsely in between mostly informative posts is akin to being shocked when you see animal-on-animal violence at a place coined the "gorilla thunderfuck" instead of a quiet, primate-oriented zoo.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I bought some stock in Raytheon and a couple other weapons manufacturers when Biden got inaugurated. I haven't regretted it yet.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Gallipoli is still extremely relevant for the topic on hand. Regarding nukes, detonating nukes on shore defenses and immediately afterwards landing you own forces on the nuked shoreline will count as a self own. In as far longevity of your men is concerned.

Not to mention nukes are a red line. After Hiroshima and Nagasaki that red line was drawn, MacArthur got sacked by Truman for wanting to nuke China to end the Korean War. The whole concept of "tactical nukes" is a myth. Even if it doesn't cause things to escalate into WW3, the country that crosses it instantly becomes a true pariah, if Russia nuked Ukraine even fucking China would abandon their ass.

 

[Richardface]

Some people fight with weapons and anti tank missiles. Me? I convince myself I've reduced my countries online enemies to tears by calling them faggots and threatening to rape their deceased relatives in online forums while chewing down donated expired kielbasa from the safety of Polish emergency refugee accommodation. My service may not win me any medals, but in my heart I know I deserve one

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

The Ukrainian defense plan relies on enough babushkas being run over by tanks for the West to go "Sheeit, who cares about MAD, let's go in!". It's based entirely on fomenting atrocity propaganda and so @Vince McMahon has actually done more than anyone else in this thread for world peace by leaving and not being killed by Russians so his body can be used to agitate for WW3.

I agree I don't think the Ukrainians should fight, they should lay down their arms and accept their fate but @Vince McMahon doesn't seem to think that way and. That's my point.

Fun Fact: You can have a ton of skilled fighters and also have a large unskilled force!

That wasn't his point, his point was that warfare today only relies on skilled fighters so him volunteering as a grunt wouldn't help the cause. You are just agreeing with my point.

 

[Vince McMahon]

They've been handing out weapons to civilians so they can fight the Russians so clearly their defense plan doesn't just rely on skilled armed forces and includes anybody who wants to fight and is able to, something that you are capable of. That is the point.

So the essence of your argument boils down to "if you don't pick up a weapon, you don't get an opinion". In this case, no poster in this thread gets to have an opinion, except those who have served in combat.

Seems like a tenuous argument, entirely rooted in emotion.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

Coming to a section of a site literally named the "autistic thunderdome" expecting calm, measured disagreement spackled sparsely in between mostly informative posts is akin to being shocked when you see animal-on-animal violence at a place coined the "gorilla thunderfuck" instead of a quiet, primate-oriented zoo.

True, but it felt like the last 24 hours we were pretty damn good at being "civil" autistic savages, lol. This last few-page flare up is the kind of shit that will make Null delete our fun autistic monkey-screeching dome (and I DO NOT want to lose it).

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

So the essence of your argument boils down to "if you don't pick up a weapon, you don't get an opinion". In this case, neither poster in this thread gets to have an opinion, except those who have served in combat.

Seems like a tenuous argument, entirely rooted in emotion.

No that isn't my point, I never said you don't get to have an opinion, I'm just responding to your opinion by criticizing your lack of action.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Just going to drunkenly point something out to you niggers. If Ukraine was even remotely organized, a lot of these foreign veterans of the Afghanistan war coming in would be shoved into a single cohesive unit and would be acting largely independently. They are instead being sent off to "Kyiv" with basically nothing and given the video posted earlier, it sounds like the top prospects among this foreign legion which would be the US special forces veterans are now actively helping foreign volunteers get out of the country and back into Poland. It doesn't sound like Ukraine has even actually designated a single person to act as a commander to this foreign legion given the fact that they seem to regularly raid even their intake facilities with police. Even their online shit doesn't seem to be well planned out. For instance, let us say I'd Ukrained out and decided to join their foreign legion as a veteran. I'd fully expect to have to upload a copy of my DD-214 to them in order for them to figure out whether or not I should be handed a rifle or a spatula . None of this seems to be actually happening. It seems like if you show up at their border, you kind of go into a holding pattern waiting for orders which will never come down. If things go "right" from there, it seems like they send you off to some fucking place that's not Kyiv like what they've been saying. Let's be honest, if they were sending you to Keiv where all the journos are, you'd be seeing a ton of interviews with western volunteers all over TV.

 

[H. Bergeron]

Turns out that when you’re an ethnic minority that happens to have ties to a much larger more powerful country, you actually can do it.

Ukraine is a trash fire and had a better economy under the motherfucking Soviet Union than it has under its kind benevolent western overlords. I can fully sympathize with the people in Donbas and Crimea who wanted to get the fuck out. Ukraine is poorer than some countries in Africa, with worse long term prospects and a 1.2 birth rate to boot. It’s a dying shithole that people are desperate to leave.

I’m willing to bet that you have no fucking clue how “democracy” works in backwards places like Ukraine, and would hate being a minority in it.

Funny how an economy dies when an attempt to join a free trade deal is met with crippling trade restrictions by Russia and threat of sanctions just for considering it. It's almost like Russia wanted Ukraine to be solely dependent on them, and when financial threats didn't work, they said fuck it and took the industrial base of the country and their largest reserves of fossil fuels. Hard to have a great economy when your best resources got flat out stolen by a dictator.

 

[LurkTrawl]

True, but it felt like the last 24 hours we were pretty damn good at being "civil" autistic savages, lol. This last few-page flare up is the kind of shit that will make Null delete our fun autistic monkey-screeching dome (and I DO NOT want to lose it).

If he didn't destroy the thunderdome sections between the year I joined and now I doubt a bit of slapfighting in a thread on a topic the man doesn't really give a shit about either way is going to do it in. The faggots who whine, piss, and moan at him will have to at some point realize that one of the qualities Null has that's admirable is telling them to go fuck themselves.

To say nothing of the fact that he was the one to name it the autistic thunderdome, and precisely because of how tumultuous the conversations in it are.

Funny how an economy dies when an attempt to join a free trade deal is met with crippling trade restrictions by Russia and threat of sanctions just for considering it. It's almost like Russia wanted Ukraine to be solely dependent on them, and when financial threats didn't work, they said fuck it and took the industrial base of the country and their largest reserves of fossil fuels. Hard to have a great economy when your best resources got flat out stolen by a dictator.

How is that functionally different from the U.S. putting sanctions and embargoes on countries it wants to be dependent on them? It's a big geopolitical game and it makes perfect sense for the ruskies to want to keep a buffer state within their influence and control. Kissinger may be a piece of shit but he's right about realpolitik.

 

[Vince McMahon]

No that isn't my point, I never said you don't get to have an opinion, I'm just responding to your opinion by criticizing your lack of action.

Opinions are required to be guaranteed by actions?

noun

1. 
   a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
   "that, in my opinion, is right"

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

Just going to drunkenly point something out to you niggers. If Ukraine was even remotely organized, a lot of these foreign veterans of the Afghanistan war coming in would be shoved into a single cohesive unit and would be acting largely independently. They are instead being sent off to "Kyiv" with basically nothing and given the video posted earlier, it sounds like the top prospects among this foreign legion which would be the US special forces veterans are now actively helping foreign volunteers get out of the country and back into Poland. It doesn't sound like Ukraine has even actually designated a single person to act as a commander to this foreign legion given the fact that they seem to regularly raid even their intake facilities with police. Even their online shit doesn't seem to be well planned out. For instance, let us say I'd Ukrained out and decided to join their foreign legion as a veteran. I'd fully expect to have to upload a copy of my DD-214 to them in order for them to figure out whether or not I should be handed a rifle or a spatula . None of this seems to be actually happening. It seems like if you show up at their border, you kind of go into a holding pattern waiting for orders which will never come down. If things go "right" from there, it seems like they send you off to some fucking place that's not Kyiv like what they've been saying. Let's be honest, if they were sending you to Keiv where all the journos are, you'd be seeing a ton of interviews with western volunteers all over TV.

They assigned the Ghost of Kiev as their commander but turns out he doesn't exist so things just kind of fell apart.

 

[biozeminadae1]

I say this with all due respect but this is the dumbest take I have seen of this conflict yet.

Why? What can Ukraine do to Russia that will ultimately benefit the Ukrainian people?

This is an aside, but it's even because of Russia that the Ukrainian nationhood formed, it was just knyazdoms before, bound with a common culture and language, but no identity. The Donets even wasn't entirely theirs until the 20th century. The truth is Ukrainians owe a lot to Russia. And the Russians are finally collecting their debts.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

When did I ever say Russia is definitely losing and gonna leave? It is still up for debate who will win or what not. I'm just saying that just because he is begging for aid doesn't mean Ukraine is getting their shit pushed in (and from the info I see, they aren't).

Up for debate? Son, I think you need to understand Russia is far better equipped and trained than what Western media tells you and unless the US steps in Zelensky is going to be a footnote in history class, if that.

 

[Vince McMahon]

The truth is Ukrainians owe a lot to Russia. And the Russians are finally collecting their debts.

What exactly is owed by Ukrainians to Russia? Do we consider Ukrainians by their passports or by their ethnic makeup?

And the Russians - do you mean Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin? Under what authority has he been vested a "collector of debt"?

 

[MrJokerRager]

The Kiwifarms Picture and Video Uploader decided to An Hero itself so we get the war brought here.

Biden recently announced new aid money but this war, I guess will probably be over in 2 or 3 weeks?