Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[The best and greatest]

One can't help but wonder what happens to these Azov guys once the war is over. They seem like a troublesome bunch to keep around in peacetime

 

[Generic Retard]

Gunsmith of Khyber Pass Keeeev:

Is that a 12.7mm with a shoulder stock?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It was sold Epstein killed himself and that Floyd did nothing wrong. Galvanizing propaganda has been built around worse figures and the US government seems like it needs a distraction from inflation. A dead kind sweat old man just trying to do his job seems like a good starting point.

The NYT disavowed him though, and that's a sign no one's really interested. But who knows, maybe they'll fob it off to some eager intern at Langley, although they have to make sure they use the right pronouns these days. I don't know if diversity hires have what it takes to churn out subtle and engaging propaganda, the old guard was excellent at it, eg Star Wars.

 

[Mr Bunny]

It's hilarious watching people seethe over it tho.

It's all banter from me, I will nibble that left toe, and you'll still get drafted fag.

 

[Octavia]

He's losing the plot. Apparently he's put a whole bunch of FSB officials in house arrest for lying to him about how easy the Ukraine War would be.

I'm not surprised, given the amount of corruption & embezzlement of funds within the Army.

 

[glib]

Chapter III
War is Peace​

The splitting up of the world into three great super-states was an event which could be and indeed was foreseen before the middle of the twentieth century. With the absorption of Europe by Russia and of the British Empire by the United States, two of the three existing powers, Eurasia and Oceania, were already effectively in being. The third, Eastasia, only emerged as a distinct unit after another decade of confused fighting. The frontiers between the three super-states are in some places arbitrary, and in others they fluctuate according to the fortunes of war, but in general they follow geographical lines. Eurasia comprises the whole of the northern part of the European and Asiatic land-mass, from Portugal to the Bering Strait. Oceania comprises the Americas, the Atlantic islands including the British Isles, Australasia, and the southern portion of Africa. Eastasia, smaller than the others and with a less definite western frontier, comprises China and the countries to the south of it, the Japanese islands and a large but fluctuating portion of Manchuria, Mongolia, and Tibet.

In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth centary. It is a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference. This is not to say that either the conduct of war, or the prevailing attitude towards it, has become less bloodthirsty or more chivalrous. On the contrary, war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries, and such acts as raping, looting, the slaughter of children, the reduction of whole populations to slavery, and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive, are looked upon as normal, and, when they are committed by one’s own side and not by the enemy, meritorious. But in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people, mostly highly-trained specialists, and causes comparatively few casualties. The fighting, when there is any, takes place on the vague frontiers whose whereabouts the average man can only guess at, or round the Floating Fortresses which guard strategic spots on the sea lanes. In the centres of civilization war means no more than a continuous shortage of consumption goods, and the occasional crash of a rocket bomb which may cause a few scores of deaths. War has in fact changed its character. More exactly, the reasons for which war is waged have changed in their order of importance. Motives which were already present to some small extent in the great wars of the early twentieth centuary have now become dominant and are consciously recognized and acted upon.

 

[hooboy]

Chapter III
War is Peace​

The splitting up of the world into three great super-states was an event which could be and indeed was foreseen before the middle of the twentieth century. With the absorption of Europe by Russia and of the British Empire by the United States, two of the three existing powers, Eurasia and Oceania, were already effectively in being. The third, Eastasia, only emerged as a distinct unit after another decade of confused fighting. The frontiers between the three super-states are in some places arbitrary, and in others they fluctuate according to the fortunes of war, but in general they follow geographical lines. Eurasia comprises the whole of the northern part of the European and Asiatic land-mass, from Portugal to the Bering Strait. Oceania comprises the Americas, the Atlantic islands including the British Isles, Australasia, and the southern portion of Africa. Eastasia, smaller than the others and with a less definite western frontier, comprises China and the countries to the south of it, the Japanese islands and a large but fluctuating portion of Manchuria, Mongolia, and Tibet.

In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth centary. It is a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference. This is not to say that either the conduct of war, or the prevailing attitude towards it, has become less bloodthirsty or more chivalrous. On the contrary, war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries, and such acts as raping, looting, the slaughter of children, the reduction of whole populations to slavery, and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive, are looked upon as normal, and, when they are committed by one’s own side and not by the enemy, meritorious. But in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people, mostly highly-trained specialists, and causes comparatively few casualties. The fighting, when there is any, takes place on the vague frontiers whose whereabouts the average man can only guess at, or round the Floating Fortresses which guard strategic spots on the sea lanes. In the centres of civilization war means no more than a continuous shortage of consumption goods, and the occasional crash of a rocket bomb which may cause a few scores of deaths. War has in fact changed its character. More exactly, the reasons for which war is waged have changed in their order of importance. Motives which were already present to some small extent in the great wars of the early twentieth centuary have now become dominant and are consciously recognized and acted upon.

im taking this post when russia defaults and they need to have a yard sale

 

[Lards and Lasses]

It's all banter from me, I will nibble that left toe, and you'll still get drafted fag.

Jokes on you, I have a bone spur

 

[MugolEx]

Chapter III
War is Peace​

The splitting up of the world into three great super-states was an event which could be and indeed was foreseen before the middle of the twentieth century. With the absorption of Europe by Russia and of the British Empire by the United States, two of the three existing powers, Eurasia and Oceania, were already effectively in being. The third, Eastasia, only emerged as a distinct unit after another decade of confused fighting. The frontiers between the three super-states are in some places arbitrary, and in others they fluctuate according to the fortunes of war, but in general they follow geographical lines. Eurasia comprises the whole of the northern part of the European and Asiatic land-mass, from Portugal to the Bering Strait. Oceania comprises the Americas, the Atlantic islands including the British Isles, Australasia, and the southern portion of Africa. Eastasia, smaller than the others and with a less definite western frontier, comprises China and the countries to the south of it, the Japanese islands and a large but fluctuating portion of Manchuria, Mongolia, and Tibet.

In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth centary. It is a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference. This is not to say that either the conduct of war, or the prevailing attitude towards it, has become less bloodthirsty or more chivalrous. On the contrary, war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries, and such acts as raping, looting, the slaughter of children, the reduction of whole populations to slavery, and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive, are looked upon as normal, and, when they are committed by one’s own side and not by the enemy, meritorious. But in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people, mostly highly-trained specialists, and causes comparatively few casualties. The fighting, when there is any, takes place on the vague frontiers whose whereabouts the average man can only guess at, or round the Floating Fortresses which guard strategic spots on the sea lanes. In the centres of civilization war means no more than a continuous shortage of consumption goods, and the occasional crash of a rocket bomb which may cause a few scores of deaths. War has in fact changed its character. More exactly, the reasons for which war is waged have changed in their order of importance. Motives which were already present to some small extent in the great wars of the early twentieth centuary have now become dominant and are consciously recognized and acted upon.

This literly just like the Goerge Orwell Novel 1984.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Gunsmith of Khyber Pass Keeeev:

Is that a 12.7mm with a shoulder stock?

It has a shoulder stock but also a bipod, so it's not totally exceptional. A shoulder stock + bipod combo makes sense.

 

[XYZpdq]

You elected those governments, did you not?

lol

He literally got ruise cruised

the general in the pickle suit tricked me again

What the fuck is Vegeta doing in a shit hole like Chechnya?

isn't Vegeta With A Beard actually Vegeta's Dad?

 

[The best and greatest]

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This literly just like the Goerge Orwell Novel 1984.

This is my problem with speculative fiction. As it ages and its premise becomes unrealistic or laughable it becomes harder to connect with its message. The idea of a soviet-born super state probably seemed a lot more plausible before the union came crashing down.

 

[Generic Retard]

It has a shoulder stock but also a bipod, so it's not totally exceptional. A shoulder stock + bipod combo makes sense.

Still, I would expect it to be bouncy af. I don't know any .50 cal machine guns with bipods and shoulder stocks from the factory.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

This is my problem with speculative fiction. As it ages and its premise becomes unrealistic or laughable it becomes harder to connect with its message. The idea of a soviet-born super state probably seemed a lot more plausible before the union came crashing down.

The collapse of the soviet union really screwed us out of convincing villains for fiction. Hell fallouts backstory was originally supposed to be nuclear war with Russia, not China, but nobody was gonna buy that mid 90s.

 

[TurdFondler]

The collapse of the soviet union really screwed us out of convincing villains for fiction.

Nothing more ominous than an establishing shot in Moscow on a rainy day. Because of the iron curtain you could make up the most ludicrous shit too.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Nothing more ominous than an establishing shot in Moscow on a rainy day. Because of the iron curtain you could make up the most ludicrous shit too.

I mean we could do it with Beijing, but then it would just be a giant smog cloud. Plus nothing in Beijing looks as cool as the Kremlin.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Those same people supported war with Iraq when Clinton was president. They've always been hypocrites.

There truly is no end to their mindset of "it's ok when we do it"

Racism, sexism, bigotry, lying, cheating, stealing and now war, all ok so long as the left does it.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The collapse of the soviet union really screwed us out of convincing villains for fiction. Hell fallouts backstory was originally supposed to be nuclear war with Russia, not China, but nobody was gonna buy that mid 90s.

Well they ahead of the curve on China being America's next major adversary.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

There truly is no end to their mindset of "it's ok when we do it"

Racism, sexism, bigotry, lying, cheating, stealing and now war, all ok so long as the left does it.

Always has been that way, it's not just a now thing. If honesty and consistency ever had a place in politics, we haven't found evidence of it yet.

 

[Übertroon]

Is there enough information to determine this? People have mentioned Russia pulling troops from other areas to assist, is this because they're losing so many people or because they want to reinforce their supply lines and mount overwhelming offensives in order to win with minimal losses? There can be multiple reasons for actions like this and Ukraine has every motivation to oversell the losses on Russia's side.

If the plan was to use garrison troops in Georgia and siberia to occupy Ukraine they would have been redeploying in February already. Not two weeks into March. It's likely not as bad as western media wants you to believe, but clearly the situation is developing in a way contrary to the optimal and planned scenario envisioned by the Russian leadership.
It seems unlikely now that Russia will be able to occupy all of Ukraine. They've currently occupied only a fraction of the nation, and yet already siphoning troops and material from important garrisons protecting Russian interests in the Caucasus and the pacific. Anymore of this and occupying Ukraine would comstitute a major security risk for Russia. Both the Japanese and the Georgians have begun voicing historical claims to territory occupied by Russia