Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[UVB-76]

But Malcolm gladwell made him seem plucky and intelligent vs the inert military command so he has to be right. Tbf they really should have programmed in hand delivered messengers.

The thing is, a lot of "simulation" back in the day ran more like D&D than a game of Skyrim. You say something then the game masters mess with the inputs for the software to reflect what's happening. Back then it would have required the staff to plot the distances involved and the means of transportation, then use a watch to wait and simulate time lapse. I wouldn't want to be the young staffer trying to explain to a general I can't allow him to give the order until a clock runs down.
To them it wasn't a priority because the objectives of the wargame are absolutely boring. Are the medics well supplied to treat casualties in the ship or are they going to get overwhelmed? Are there enough IT specialists on board in case systems get damaged? It was never meant to be a true Iran v USA simulation to see who wins, but stress test the American doctrine.

Any kind of wargame needs to have people asking what the rules are. It's similar to hearing about "X percent of people believe this based on polling" and not assuming it's chickenshit because the questions were probably loaded. Like when Romanian MiG-21 pilots were able to kill USAF F-16s in the early 2010s because the MiGs had been updated with helmet tracking- but they didn't emphasize that the combat started within visual range. The F-16s used had yet to be updated with JHMCS and were not equipped with AIM-9xs, so the MiGs had a chance. In a real engagement, the MiG-21s would've been blown out of the sky by AIM-120s. But the papers were like "OMG 60 YEAR OLD MIG-21 BEATS LATEST F-16 MODEL!"

Another similar thing happened with F-14s and F-5s if I recall correctly. Supposedly F-5s racked a gorillion kills against the F-14s, technology drools reformism rules!
Well, turned out that this was a sequence of dogfights where at first there were few rules, and the F-14s insta-killed the F-5s. So they progressively increased the number of rules to give the F-5s more and more advantages, and force the F-14s to come up with tactics to counter their disadvantages. One example was the F-14s couldn't fire until visual range. So after suffering a few defeats, the F-14 pilots sent a F-14 ahead to spot the F-5s visually, while others fired from beyond visual range using radar as according to rules there was one F-14 who had acquired the enemy visually. And the rules were changed again, they got beat again, and came up with new tactics to solve the problems being thrown at them.

 

[DJ Grelle]

I'm fence-sitting like a bitch still.

On one hand, Russia is eastZOG and they can go to hell. On the other, they are asserting their sovereignity in a Schmittian sense which is cool I guess.
On one hand, the west supports the Ukrop glowie-regime. On the other, Azov and right sector cultivated quite the interesting far right sphere in ukraine.

I'd rather still stay on my fence tyvm

 

[The Last Boyscout]

Here is a member of the Ukrainian parliament saying that all the civilians in the shelter survived so that’s more propaganda negated.
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A Kiev Independant journo:
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https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1504378026800386051

Archive: https://archive.ph/JSM89

man...between the Ghost of Kyiv, Snake Island, the nuclear power plant and now this, I am *THIS* fucking close to disregarding anything ukraine says from the start, while treating russian claims with the usual huge piles of salt.

like...seriously, this is hyperactive clown propaganda at this point. claim an OUTRRRRRAGEOUS atrocity one day, then the very next say: "SIKE, we was just joshin', it's a fukken miracle!!!" I'm sure it works great for the masses of clapping seals out there in zombie clownworld that are still glued to their TVs or whatever as if it's their gospel, and have the attention span of a fucking fly, but anyone with a working brain that can solve a 2+2 equation can see that while russians might be full of shit, ukrainians have become a monument of it. then again, I guess I should expect a lot of fertilizer from the two countries exporting a third of the world's wheat by default.

 

[Penis Drager]

I'm fence-sitting like a bitch still.

On one hand, Russia is eastZOG and they can go to hell. On the other, they are asserting their sovereignity in a Schmittian sense which is cool I guess.
On one hand, the west supports the Ukrop glowie-regime. On the other, Azov and right sector cultivated quite the interesting far right sphere in ukraine.

I'd rather still stay on my fence tyvm

You don't have to give a shit. Just step away from the fence entirely and observe the shit flinging from a distance and/or bitch about the direct impacts this bullshit is having on your life.

 

[Rezza]

So Uzbekistan is announcing they opposed the war and won't recognize the DPR and LPR. Considering that Uzbekistan's main trade partner is Russia, this is a ballsy move

 

[Random Internet Person]

Jack has a question.

https://twitter.com/jackmurphylive/status/1504448960861294593?s=21

 

[Jarolleon]

I like how completely full of shit the left has been revealed to be as if we needed more proof.

All those years of the Anti-war movement during the Dubya Presidency and now those exact same people want a war.

Member when all the various commie front groups flipped from anti-war "sabotage the imperialists!" types to jingoists the instant Operation Barbarossa happened, revealing that they were nothing more than Moscow's puppets? I wonder if that's how they lost enough credibility for McCarthy to happen.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Jack has a question.

https://twitter.com/jackmurphylive/status/1504448960861294593?s=21

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Russia has a larger population than Ukraine which means statistically more men can fuck Jack's wife. The side he should root for is ergo obvious.

 

[UVB-76]

Jack has a question.

https://twitter.com/jackmurphylive/status/1504448960861294593?s=21

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Does the material used in dildos depend on oil?

 

[Narcotics]

Has there been any significant russian progress since yesterday? One side is saying russia is steamrolling dem holhols and the other is saying ruskis are getting pushed back and destroyed by ukies

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Has there been any significant russian progress since yesterday? One side is saying russia is steamrolling dem holhols and the other is saying ruskis are getting pushed back and destroyed by ukies

Everything is very slow. Too slow for the Zoomer attention span. Mariupol will soon be taken over but this won't accelerate the rest of the front.

 

[Octavia]

Just waiting for Ukraine to cluster bomb another city for content tbh, Russian advance is too slow.

 

[H. Bergeron]

Russian agents poison a man in England. The man lives, the world is outraged and sanctions Russia.

Russian agents poison Navalny. The man lives, the world is outraged and sanctions Russia.

Russian missile hits a theater chock full of people. All people live, the world is outraged and sactions Russia.

What is pattern recognition I don't even.

Some people might survive shelling by hiding in a basement that was designated a bomb shelter. Shock. Last news I saw is that the shelter held, but they weren't sure of the numbers yet. There is hope for the people there, but there isn't info on deaths or casualties yet.

As for your other shit, I know Russia has poisoned a lot of people, some failed, they can't all succeed, but Litvenenko fucking died.

Russia's excuse? he poisoned himself to make them look bad.

Poisoned himself. With fucking Polonium. What a fucking joke.

 

[Rezza]

Has there been any significant russian progress since yesterday? One side is saying russia is steamrolling dem holhols and the other is saying ruskis are getting pushed back and destroyed by ukies

This is a stalemate. Russia is holding off the offensives to wait for supplies and troops from the garrison/mercenaries to arrive. Ukraine is waiting for supplies from the West to arrive, and their volunteers and reserve finishing their training. I'm thinking a big push from either Russia or Ukraine at this weekend

 

[Dave_Ph]

Hey I'm back. This thread still mostly pro-Putin? Whatever I don't care. I just hope you stop using the weird Russian and Chinese maps to get a sense of what is going on. The war is a slog and will not be over any time soon. Attrition warfare. Just bleeding each other until one side gives up or goes home. Sad.

Here's some stuff I found since I've been away an easy to understand tank recognition guide. It's a good way to verify for yourself who got merked in photos.
I'm sure it has been posted but the big crowdsourced abacus of equipment losses.
The OOB of the Russian Army prior to the war.
A handy video to tell where the vehicles involved came from, their army group basically, if you breezed through above.

Anyways, the redditors and pogues never made it anywhere. The boogs, trannies, and other dipshits got turned away. They are taking competent combat veterans only for the legions. Videos and twitter/reddit posts are either bullshit or sour grapes. The foreign legions are just outside Kyiv training, equipping, and organizing. The guys who got missilated were Ukie reservists being trained up by NATO people and the rear detachment of the 24th Mechanized Brigade. They were to be replacements for casualties in the field. It was their base that was hit.

Another neato thing I found is that the Ruskies invaded with a shitload of old gear. A lot. A lot a lot. T-72As and pre-89 T-72Bs and shit. These seem to be the gear mostly in units like the 90th Guards Tank Division that they stood up fairly recently (2016) and the militia goobers in the DNR/LPR. This makes me think that all the modern-ish shit already got doled out and they have a guy with a can of ether and a bank of deep cycles playing "will it start" with old unmodernized shit in storage and whatever fires gets doled out because fuckit it's their division's problem to keep these museum pieces running and able to do war stuff. Just a guess.

I will now leave you with my favorite meme because I haven't seen it posted.

Awsome. Im sure you got all this from your totally on the ground Twitter sources.

 

[Penis Drager]

I wonder if that's how they lost enough credibility for McCarthy to happen

McCarthy "happened" because everything he said was true.

 

[TheTrumanShow]

Some people might survive shelling by hiding in a basement that was designated a bomb shelter. Shock. Last news I saw is that the shelter held, but they weren't sure of the numbers yet. There is hope for the people there, but there isn't info on deaths or casualties yet.

As for your other shit, I know Russia has poisoned a lot of people, some failed, they can't all succeed, but Litvenenko fucking died.

Russia's excuse? he poisoned himself to make them look bad.

Poisoned himself. With fucking Polonium. What a fucking joke.

I have only blocked a pedophile on this board before but Im considering adding you to the list.
Have you made one post that isn't an agenda-post?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Has there been any significant russian progress since yesterday? One side is saying russia is steamrolling dem holhols and the other is saying ruskis are getting pushed back and destroyed by ukies

Not really. Little land swaps. The Ukies counter attacked and gained a good amount of ground north of Kharkiv but the Russians pushed to the south to the east of the city. VDV attacked and got blunted at Kyiv. Meanwhile their supporting units took a couple empty fields to the west. Mykolaiv is a slap fight that gained nothing. A couple blocks were gained Mariupol but who knows if they can hold it. Apparently there was a push outside Donetsk that took the first set of Ukie defensive lines but it doesn't seem like there was any break through. Chernihiv is nothing but UA tank killers and convoy raiding, as usual. Same with Sumy and Mena.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

About a third of my colleagues fled to Georgia, Germany and Turkey in the very first few days of the war. Several more are preparing to.

I'm surprised to learn then some Russians fled to Turkey knowing the relations between Turkey and Russia in the past but on the other hand, Erdogan licking Putin's boots...

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Awsome. Im sure you got all this from your totally on the ground Twitter sources.

Twitter? No. I gave you the keys to unlock it right there. Know where the Russian/Ukrainian units are. What their shit looks like. Track progress by what gets blown up that is reported on in crowdsources like Oryx. This isn't as difficult to follow if you can read painted symbols they put on shit.