Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Lone MacReady]

There are Russian jets over their capitol city
Absolutely a win

Lol. It's like Japs at Iwo Jima while their homeland is actively being firebombed, "Ahhh, we hording the round eye heer, trury we are not defeated yet and can hord out for rong time."

 

[whothefuck]

I do know, however, that his approval rating before all this was about thirty one percent. Not exactly indicative of a popular fellow.

ukraine has for a long time had abysmal approval ratings for their governments, 31% is pretty popular compared to something like 2% one administration had

 

[UVB-76]

So a late question, why is Zelensky so hated? Yeah I heard the spiel of him being a globohomo agent that won the elections unfairly. I can't say how much it is real, but for a globohomo stooge it seems he actually cares about Ukraine and tries to improve the situation as much as he can. Otherwise he'd have evacuated to a new country the moment the invasion started, like we fully expect a lot of countries presidents and elite will do.

Because at this point we're all disillusioned with politicians. He was on the Pandora Papers. Supposedly has a 35 million dollar mansion in Miami.
The little respect he could gather for refusing to leave is blown away due to his own rhetoric. He's essentially trying to guilt NATO into supporting him.
It's easy to see him as a good guy through the eyes of normies and that also sort of sets off the contrarian instinct.
If he decided to be a puppet no more and go down with the ship, respect. Don't fucking make me die in a nuclear war, though.

 

[Dave_Ph]

German aircraft were over Britain's capital too and they did not win.

But the USA isn't going to save Ukraine.

I hope

 

[AnOminous]

Kneejerk reaction to the media lionizing him so hard.
I have no fucking clue about him or what the Ukrainians thought about him before he got the natural boost of being a leader during wartime, and I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on eastern european politics. I do know, however, that his approval rating before all this was about thirty one percent. Not exactly indicative of a popular fellow.

It's not that unusual for leaders in that part of the world to have very low approval ratings. They just have a lot more fatalistic and cynical view of politics than Americans, who are naive in comparison. In America we expect politicians to be crooks and steal everything that isn't nailed down and are rarely disappointed. In these ex-Soviet satellite states they expect them to be crooks and steal everything that isn't nailed down, plus rape your mom and daughter in the bargain.

So hovering at around the approval rating of syphilis and bed bugs doesn't necessarily, by itself, say someone is a shitty politician there.

 

[RX-78]

That would be the first day of deployment, and they'll fall down faster than all those dive grass super athletes that pifzer hopes you don't research.

 

[DumbDude42]

So a late question, why is Zelensky so hated? Yeah I heard the spiel of him being a globohomo agent that won the elections unfairly. I can't say how much it is real, but for a globohomo stooge it seems he actually cares about Ukraine and tries to improve the situation as much as he can. Otherwise he'd have evacuated to a new country the moment the invasion started, like we fully expect a lot of countries presidents and elite will do.

russians and putin stans hate him because he's the boss of the country they're at war with, very simple
some others hate him because he's a jew, and also a profesisonal media clown before he went into politics, both very unpopular with dissident right wing types
and then there are those who hate him because he was working with/for globohomo by trying to align ukraine with the west

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Kneejerk reaction to the media lionizing him so hard.
I have no fucking clue about him or what the Ukrainians thought about him before he got the natural boost of being a leader during wartime, and I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on eastern european politics. I do know, however, that his approval rating before all this was about thirty one percent. Not exactly indicative of a popular fellow.

He was elected by a vast majority, mainly because he wanted a compromise solution regarding Donbass and Crimea, so a lot of people voted him in for that. But after he got in it never happened. Many people were just sick of the Donbass conflict and wanted it to end at that point.

 

[male pattern malding]

Don't neglect the fact that nearly all soldiers are vaccinated now. Can't wait to see GIs drop like flies when the stress of being shot at makes their myocarditis flare up.

Would be pretty hilarious if the war is ultimately decided by whether Sputnik or whatever they were using in Ukraine has worse side effects.

 

[hooboy]

The problem isn't that there are conflicting opinions, it's that people shitpost like madmen because they're so emotionally about this conflict and produce no worthwhile commentary. Those people are worth blocking.

cum piss haha

>worthwhile commentary btw

lol

 

[AnOminous]

He started getting a lot of hate when he tried to drag NATO into WW3 by asking for no-fly zones.

People take it amiss when someone's big fucking mouth starts writing checks they expect utter strangers to cover for them.

It's not often you see such a "What do you mean 'we' white man?" in the wild.

 

[Freezard]

He was elected by a vast majority, mainly because he wanted a compromise solution regarding Donbass and Crimea, so a lot of people voted him in for that. But after he got in it never happened. Many people were just sick of the Donbass conflict and wanted it to end at that point.

It's a little funny to me considering that might have prevented all of this.
Or it might have been a case of feeding the alligator an arm, I don't know, but I've always been of the mind that the slightest effort towards compromising diplomacy could have nipped this in the bud instead of rocketing shit up to where it is now, where it's just bad for everybody except China.

 

[Dave_Ph]

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[George Lucas]

That one person was Nool, lol. And I actually agree with him. If Russia succeeds in the long term here, that means America's time as the sole hegemon is coming to an end.

Whether or not that's good for you, depends on whether your country has been relying on Uncle Sam to prop up your independence, and your proximity to aspiring major powers. And if you're American well I guess you may be in for interesting times.

Honestly I think most of Null’s takes are shit.

This one is kind of half correct though.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Kneejerk reaction to the media lionizing him so hard.
I have no fucking clue about him or what the Ukrainians thought about him before he got the natural boost of being a leader during wartime, and I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on eastern european politics. I do know, however, that his approval rating before all this was about thirty one percent. Not exactly indicative of a popular fellow.

All that really needs to be known about Zelenskyy is that Joe Biden offered him a golden parachute, cushy exile, and he refused the offer.

Before that moment he was an entertainer and comedian who got elected largely as a joke, and like any eastern European politician engaged in his fair share of chicanery.

Ironically he's now the best possible leader Ukraine can have. He knows how to play western media and he's giving a virtuoso performance. Beyond that though he's done what very few in his position have done, which is he's stuck his neck out. Make no mistake if Ukraine loses Zelensky dies. This truth is what is so inspiring. Too often leaders of nations very rarely stick their own necks out for their countries.

Among the many miscalculations in putins invasion, one of them is he vastly underestimated the man on the other side of that long table.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Lol. It's like Japs at Iwo Jima while their homeland is actively being firebombed, "Ahhh, we hording the round eye heer, trury we are not defeated yet and can hord out for rong time."

And CNN isn't even showing us Moscow in flames

 

[whothefuck]

I've always been of the mind that the slightest effort towards compromising diplomacy could have nipped this in the bud instead of rocketing shit up to where it is now, where it's just bad for everybody except China.

that wouldve needed to happen in 2014, maybe even before that when nato started expanding eastward. theres a lot of things the west couldve done, like accommodating russia into the west after the ussr fell rather than teabagging the russians so hard that they lose all faith in international institutions and fall back into the arms of assertive strongmen

 

[ColtWalker1847]

@ everyone sperging about drones and AA fails.

If modern defense systems can track mortar grenades and incoming missiles to shoot down, they can also shoot down drones lol.
There will just be more guns and less rockets. OTOH I don't see why rockets can't shoot down drones, the Israelis do it too (not drones, but small objects).
Unless drones develop some kind of UFO like evasion algorithm, I don't see the need for interceptor drones (although these would be useful against full size jets I think, payload matters).

Edit: I would guess the range of those AA guns need to get a bit larger, the missile range on those drones is apparently 8km

That is something I have noticed lately. The Ukies seem to be finding and destroying/capturing a few R-330BMV Borisoglebsk-2B units lately. These are mobile jammers. These are being taken by ground forces. This is a change from how they were handling air defense and other strategic equipment, by droning them with Bayraktars.

 

[Dave_Ph]

It's a little funny to me considering that might have prevented all of this.
Or it might have been a case of feeding the alligator an arm, I don't know, but I've always been of the mind that the slightest effort towards compromising diplomacy could have nipped this in the bud instead of rocketing shit up to where it is now, where it's just bad for everybody except China.

Not bad for Klaus Schwab either

 

[Fraiser crane]

All that really needs to be known about Zelenskyy is that Joe Biden offered him a golden parachute, cushy exile, and he refused the offer.

Before that moment he was an entertainer and comedian who got elected largely as a joke, and like any eastern European politician engaged in his fair share of chicanery.

Ironically he's now the best possible leader Ukraine can have. He knows how to play western media and he's giving a virtuoso performance. Beyond that though he's done what very few in his position have done, which is he's stuck his neck out. Make no mistake if Ukraine loses Zelensky dies. This truth is what is so inspiring. Too often leaders of nations very rarely stick their own necks out for their countries.

Among the many miscalculations in putins invasion, one of them is he vastly underestimated the man on the other side of that long table.

Basically this
He signed his death warrant
He's not asking his people to do anything that he wouldn't
This war is a joke and a comedian is probs the best person to have at the helm