Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Wash away the rain]

Yeah I don't deny the western parts and central parts to a lesser extent have had an independence streak but the eastern parts haven't and have wanted closer ties with Russia, you can look at Ukrainian presidential elections and there's a clear divide. The more pro-Russian candidate wins in the east, the more pro-European candidate wins the west more or less. This is why it shouldn't be a country and should be partitioned. It's retarded to force groups of people who hate each other to live together.

Careful there buddy you might break up plenty of counties with that type of thinking. ( including every major world power.)

 

[hooboy]

Okay. In aggregate you people are totally fucked up.
I've learned things about you I wish I never knew.
What does a guy have to do around here to get banned. Looking at the anime pics in profiles I know child porn won't do it

you have half the thread on ignore just go to twitter dude

 

[Duke Nukem]

Yeah I don't deny the western parts and central parts to a lesser extent have had an independence streak but the eastern parts haven't and have wanted closer ties with Russia, you can look at Ukrainian presidential elections and there's a clear divide. The more pro-Russian candidate wins in the east, the more pro-European candidate wins the west more or less. This is why it shouldn't be a country and should be partitioned. It's retarded to force groups of people who hate each other to live together.

It worked for the Czech Republic and Slovakia. However, would it result in greater conflicts later like India and Pakistan?

 

[Hell on Earth]

Same place the Russian Faggots did.

The Wallet.

Edit : Also to all the sperging about the "people of Ukraine's rights and they should choose who rules them" Someone does need to point out that the current Ukie regime was installed by USA Glowniggers.

The Frogs and the Spaniards helped America to tell Bongland to fuck off, no one in America seems to remember that

And I know, I know, it's different this time because Z-man is just a puppet and he helps some of the most corrupt shitstains in America to keep their dirty secrets out of the public eye.

It's just a more bastardized version of that event, that's all

 

[Kenya Jones]

Yeah I don't deny the western parts and central parts to a lesser extent have had an independence streak but the eastern parts haven't and have wanted closer ties with Russia, you can look at Ukrainian presidential elections and there's a clear divide. The more pro-Russian candidate wins in the east, the more pro-European candidate wins the west more or less. This is why it shouldn't be a country and should be partitioned. It's retarded to force groups of people who hate each other to live together.

From what I have seen that is not the case. Of course that is why I added an (Allegedly) to my previous post, stuff like votes and surveys in these countries are almost always skewed one way or another, and with Russias streak of strange election tomfoolery I am more inclined to believe the Ukies (but not completely).

The Frogs and the Spaniards helped America to tell Bongland to fuck off, no one in America seems to remember that

And I know, I know, it's different this time because Z-man is just a puppet and he helps some of the most corrupt shitstains in America to keep their dirty secrets out of the public eye.

It's just a more bastardized version of that event, that's all

I 'member the foreigners that helped the Americans, my forefather was a Hessen who fought with the Brits.

 

[AnOminous]

Putin isn't a saint, but the biggest examples of him supposedly being a cruel conqueror are him taking territory that's either asking for him to help them or has already seceded and joined Russia.

The only reason they seceded and joined Russia is during sovietification, they very deliberately larded these strategically important areas with Russian nationals. Literal Russification. So naturally these Russians in these areas are more loyal to Mother Russia than the country where they actually live.

I believe there's actually a word for having more loyalty to a country at war with your own. It's not a very kind word.

 

[hooboy]

Also I will be the moral fag here. This war is stupid, based off of terrible assumption. And the outcome is the taking of lives. I do not care about weather it is civilians or soldiers, human beings are dying. It's horrible that civilians are killed, even more so the younger and helpless they are, but the soldiers that are dying are also very young. I believe most of the people killed in wars (and this one is no different) are 18 and 19 years old, and from the dead soldiers I have seen that seems to be corroborated.

as a nazi, I think denazification is based and even though this is a “brother war” and I think there shouldn’t be anymore of those, it’s still based

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Yea but my e-dad can beat up your e-dad

Putty cat just loves me.
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[A_throwaway_name62919]

A bit more follow up about how the aviation industry is effected by the sanctions/counter sanctions.

TL;DW:
The closure of Russia's airspace effected some airlines worse than others. Some because it was easier than others to go around Russia to continue to serve their usual routes. Some because they were from countries Russia hadn't sanctioned and could still fly over Russia. The unsanctioned countries kind of lost their advantage with the SWIFT sanction, as Russia being disconnected from finances like that means that those airliners can't actually pay Russia the overflight fees. Meaning only Russia gets to fly over Russia at the moment unless Russia suddenly starts taking IOUs from airliners it's otherwise still on friendly terms with.
Fuel isn't a big issue at the moment. In the short to medium term some companies already had agreements locking them into buying fuel at slightly higher prices specifically so they'd be insulated against sudden market instabilities like we're seeing at the moment. Long term everyone will be affected pretty equally.
Russia was a pretty popular source of titanium for Boeing, Airbus, and various engine manufacturers. After 2014, Boeing, Airbus, and to a much lesser extent the engine manufacturers made a point of building up stockpiles of titanium and invest some in other sources in case further shit hit the fan with Russia. So with Russian titanium cut off by Putin's actions, the shit's hit the fan. No one's immediately screwed, but it'll likely take months for anyone who needs a new supplier of titanium to get a source up and and running and certified. Long term Russia risks losing a lot of its existing titanium customers, for aircraft and anything else.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

From what I have seen that is not the case. Of course that is why I added an (Allegedly) to my previous post, stuff like votes and surveys in these countries are almost always skewed one way or another, and with Russias streak of strange election tomfoolery I am more inclined to believe the Ukies (but not completely).

Your mistake is thinking that the Ukies aren't just a worse version of the Russians. They are even more corrupt.

Careful there buddy you might break up plenty of counties with that type of thinking. ( including every major world power.)

I mean I'd love to see America get broken up into different pieces.

 

[Corpun]

These niggers on Fox News are harping hard on the he is an insane war criminal drive. The propaganda machine is on full force on every front they have to remind you of the six gorillion Ukrainian pregnant women and child leukemia patients being shelled hourly. Guess they gotta get the boomers on for this war somehow.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Yet another Senior Officer killed, confirmed by Russian sources. Colonel Sergei Porokhnya, Commander of the 12th Engineer Brigade. Say what you will about Globohomo, but they are definitely doing a good job helping Ukraine locate Russian commanders.

https://www.ufa.kp.ru/online/news/4665301/

 

[TerrorSperg99]

How likely is nuclear war? I don’t believe anything The main stream media says.

 

[H. Bergeron]

I assume you would say the same thing about the Maidan protestors who seized government buildings and overthrew an elected government? You present the uprisings in Donbas as completely separate events but they were done in response to the Maidan movement violently overthrowing the government. It's entirely disingenuous.

Let's compare and contrast shall we?

The Maidan took over the justice building in protest of orwellian anti protest laws and left when they changed. Bad, arguably I suppose, not unheard of in a mass protest movement of millions.

The Donbass separatists took over just after Russia seized Crimea, and took over all the centers of government and declared the whole town to be independent. They just so happened to do it with Russian supplied arms and with the aid of Russian troops coming up from Crimea.

And if you think that Maiden is what a violent overthrow looks like, you're high. Get help.

The violent overthrow that ended outside of the actual hall of government without a breach. And Yanukovich ran to Russia rather than face criminal prosecution that was likely incoming, His entire administration collapsed and he left the country sans not only a president, but any administration.

So the Rada voted his ass out, with a vast majority. Not a coup. Not a violent overthrow. But you know that.

 

[Dave_Ph]

How likely is nuclear war? I don’t believe anything The main stream media says.

46% Yes

 

[Wash away the rain]

Yet another Senior Officer killed, confirmed by Russian sources. Colonel Sergei Porokhnya, Commander of the 12th Engineer Brigade. Say what you will about Globohomo, but they are definitely doing a good job helping Ukraine locate Russian commanders.

https://www.ufa.kp.ru/online/news/4665301/

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Probably all the 5 eyes spy sats

 

[bread n circuses]

Hot Take: It's not religion nor race, it's society. Specifically, it's the culture. Even if you take these people out of the ME or Africa they will likely be growing up in families and communities that are aligned to the culture where they come from. These cultures usually have a lot of worse ideals like giving less value to human life and seeing women as inferior or even worse as objects (which leads to high rape and murder rates).

This is such a shitty argument and I still do not know how people can do the mental gymnastics to get to this conclusion. I have asked this question before but the person I asked didn't answer so here I will ask you. If a large African American gentlemen kindly broke into your house and started banging your significant other, would you fight the brute or would you just give up and let him have his way?

If you needed any more proof that Ukraine shills are cuckolds, here it is.

VLADIMIR PUTIN IS LIKE THE BLACK MEN IN MY PORN VIDEOS is not a sober or reasonable geopolitical analysis. Put down the Vaseline and tweezers, take a deep breath, and come back to reality.

 

[Dave_Ph]

These niggers on Fox News are harping hard on the he is an insane war criminal drive. The propaganda machine is on full force on every front they have to remind you of the six gorillion Ukrainian pregnant women and child leukemia patients being shelled hourly. Guess they gotta get the boomers on for this war somehow.

Its on. There's never been a wind up like this before.
It just has to look like Vlad hit NATO.

 

[LUNEKO]

Its on. There's never been a wind up like this before.
It just has to look like Vlad hit NATO.

I thought you wanted to be banned?
man and i was giving you 24 hours but you came back barely half an hour later, that oughta be a record

 

[The Last Boyscout]

How likely is nuclear war? I don’t believe anything The main stream media says.

less and less likely by the day tbh. in the first week or so I was legit deebly concerned if NATO wasn't going to do some kind of Yippie-Kay-Yay MoFo move...but then a week passed, and another, and another and despite all the sanctions, virtue signalling and promises of lend-lease...they won't lift a finger themselves to fight the Russians. it's clearer and clearer, in fact, that they don't think they'll have to. you have plenty of optimists among their politicians believing Ukraine will prevail on its own (check this thread for any doubt of that), so what need is there for the nukes then, right?

ofc...if we DO actually see a massive escalation by the Russians (with tactical nukes being their very last option perhaps), and by the end of it all they do wind up browbeating Ukraine somehow, then you should start worrying again. people itt seem to think it not that possible anymore and that russian military ain't shit, but who the hell knows what exactly fucked up their initial plans (and fucked up it did get). TBH I saw this same kind of bullshit copium believed on and on about Assad, that his military is horseshit and entirely propped up, that soon he'd be deposed and the FSA would prevail in his place with their righteous fighting spirit...and look how THAT turned out.

still...it's a looooong time before russia gets anywhere close to what might look like winning, so until then nuclear war is frankly not that likely at all. but if they do reach that point where they can reasonably claim victory, ESPECIALLY by using tactical nukes to set a super dangerous precedent, then uhhh...yeah, it's time to worry again. it's why I still genuinely hope russia chokes superhard, because the second they're done with ukraine they'll start thinking on how to fuck with all those bastards that put those sanctions on them and the only way that doesn't happen is that they crash and burn.

...but I've seen where such optimistic hope leads when making predictions about wars in the past couple of decades and I'm still firmly in the camp of: "They'll win one way or another." I just hope it's as phyrric a victory as possible tbh.