Is israel getting great replaced ? - Muhammad is the top name for Israeli newborns boys in 2020.

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Yesterday, I stumbled upon this surprising (if not shocking) piece of information, whilst browsing social media :

Muhammad and Maya top list of Israeli newborn’s names in 2020​

If you're here, you probably already know that Israel has strict laws against non-jewish immigration(2)(3), whilst various jewish groups push for even more mass immigration in Europe and the US, hence inspiring the "open borders for israel" meme. Even if Netanyahu is considered far-right In spite of this, 18 % of the jewish state population is muslim in 2020, when it was only 8% in 1950. It is not due to immigration, as non-jewish labor immigrants aren't given Israeli citizenship. This population change seem to be due to fertility demographics. In 1948, muslim women had 8 kids on average, while jewish women had only 3,6. Today, muslim women still have more kids than jewesses, including the ultra-orthodox (3,16 vs 3,09). Even with the current locking down of non-jewish immigration, and the government support for ultra-orthodox jews, will Israel get great replaced like the rest of the western world ?
 
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Well, atheist left-wing jews in Israel will be completely outnumbered by fundamentalist orthodox jews, because atheists don't have kids. Like everywhere else.
After the orthodox jews get into power, the whole power dynamic will shift and everything could happen. From mass expulsion of non-jews to pogroms on muslims and christians. If that happens and the American Empire is weakend enough, there would probably be another war between Israel and it's neighbors.
 
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Divine right to rule said:
Well, atheist left-wing jews in Israel will be completely outnumbered by fundamentalist orthodox jews, because atheists don't have kids. Like everywhere else.
After the orthodox jews get into power, the whole power dynamic will shift and everything could happen. From mass expulsion of non-jews to pogroms on muslims and christians. If that happens and the American Empire is weakend enough, there would probably be another war between Israel and it's neighbors.
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Yes, but haredim/ultra-orthodox jews are very poor, have a strong disdain for technology, and absolutely refuse to go to war. They're even exempted from military service, which upsets greatly "normal" jews, that have to spend 2.5 years doing it to make up for them. Do you think they would be able to sustain a war effort against the whole middle-east ? Well, Israel convinced most of them to take the vaccine, so nothing is sure.
Haredi jews were expected to reach 40% of Israeli population by 2065. However, the fertility in haredi jews is slowly dropping too : the average number of children per ultra-orthodox woman dropped to 6.9, from its high of 7.5 in 2003. They are marrying later, and pursue higher education more and more. Will ultra-orthodox jews continue to exist as a breeding stock for Israel in the near future? I don't know much about statistic calculus, so I'd like to have your insight on this.

Also, to finish on a goofy note, they're having ultra-orthodox kids trooning out and getting worldwide media coverage.
 
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Feliformia said:
Yes, but haredim/ultra-orthodox jews are very poor, have a strong disdain for technology, and absolutely refuse to go to war. They're even exempted from military service, which upsets greatly "normal" jews, that have to spend 2.5 years doing it to make up for them. Do you think they would be able to sustain a war effort against the whole middle-east ? Well, Israel convinced most of them to take the vaccine, so nothing is sure.
Haredi jews were expected to reach 40% of Israeli population by 2065. However, the fertility in haredi jews is slowly dropping too : the average number of children per ultra-orthodox woman dropped to 6.9, from its high of 7.5 in 2003. They are marrying later, and pursue higher education more and more. Will ultra-orthodox jews continue to exist as a breeding stock for Israel in the near future? I don't know much about statistic calculus, so I'd like to have your insight on this.

Also, to finish on a goofy note, they're having ultra-orthodox kids trooning out and getting worldwide media coverage.
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Drop-off in births even in religious communities is rather common when wealth increases. There is a sizeable decline of births per generation for Muslim immigrants in Europe, they become more westernized and get less children as their mothers.
Israel profited hugely from the influx from educated Ashkenazi Jews after WW2, and they were the foundation of their wealth and industry. And their contacts the main reason for the amazing amount of support that Israel got from Europe and America.
The Ashkenazi, who are still the "upper class" of Israel; almost all politicians and industrial leaders are Ashkenazi; are tending to more moderate or left-wing judaism, or even go Atheist. As a result, they get fewer children, and Israel's scientific and industrial base will start and continue to decline until they are gone or assimilated into another jewish group.

Furthermore, the Muslims in the middle east have not been sleeping, and they have not forgotten the humiliations.
I expect that with the weakening of Europe and America and the edge of the Holocaust being dulled by more recent tragedies that Israel will see itself at war with the majority of the Muslim world at one point, a war that they won't be able to win.
 
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Divine right to rule said:
Well, atheist left-wing jews in Israel will be completely outnumbered by fundamentalist orthodox jews, because atheists don't have kids. Like everywhere else.
After the orthodox jews get into power, the whole power dynamic will shift and everything could happen. From mass expulsion of non-jews to pogroms on muslims and christians. If that happens and the American Empire is weakend enough, there would probably be another war between Israel and it's neighbors.
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The orthodox jews don't contribute to the military though, right? Might be difficult for them to find the manpower nessecary.

I know, "greatest ally" and all that. But for all of the US support of Israel, they've never put boots on the ground as far as I remember. Not even in any of the full blown Israel/Arab conventional wars.
 
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Deserved, though I think that unless the muslims are from neighbouring countries who obtained an Israel citizenship when that was possible then the muslims that make up 18% could be white Israelites who simply changed religion.
 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
Hot take here:

Jews can become Muslim
Muslim can’t become Jew

At a certain point, doesn’t it just become convenient to convert so you don’t get akbar-ed?

Or more importantly: is it time Jews learned to proselytize and turn the Muslim…. Into the Jew?

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They've probably been trying for ages, but given how muslims wisely treat their women like shit I suspect the jewesses have a difficult time instilling the children with jewish values.
 
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The problem isn't that arabs have higher birthrates in Israel -- it's the fact that all the jewess' are weak to the BGC (big goy cock).

Milk maids like Abby Shapiro have already succumb to our power, but they don't admit it openly.
 
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Their army is shrinking. So yes, it's a matter of time.

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Their appeal to coomers doesn't seem to work.
 
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