General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I take it you're not that familiar with the customs for anime concerts in Japan/East Asia? This is nothing, wait until people are allowed to chant and shout again in concerts
You talking about the otaku glowstick dances? I remember a clip where Kiara talks about how she was one of them for an idol group (Hello Project?) and bonded with one of NijiEN's girls over this stuff.
 
No I'm American and to be honest the actual idol stuff still kinda weirds me out. You say that the concert goers aren't even allowed to speak at this thing? I was wondering why it was so quiet and thought that they just shut off the house mics for some reason. That blows my mind that fans would make themselves be muzzled, and I don't just mean the masks, to the point where they don't even sing along.
Japan is all about following the rules, if they tell a crowd of thousands that they can't shout during a concert because of the coof, then nobody will make a peep.

Have you heard what happens to rule-breakers in idol concerts? They get shunned and blocked from future events not just by the managers but the obsessive fans too - they do not forget, they will remember your face and tell you to fuck off months later.

Even fucking up the light-stick sync or chanting at the wrong time, you'll become a persona non grata among the horde of idol otakus.
 
Japan is all about following the rules, if they tell a crowd of thousands that they can't shout during a concert because of the coof, then nobody will make a peep.

Have you heard what happens to rule-breakers in idol concerts? They get shunned and blocked from future events not just by the managers but the obsessive fans too - they do not forget, they will remember your face and tell you to fuck off months later.

Even fucking up the light-stick sync or chanting at the wrong time, you'll become a persona non grata among the horde of idol otakus.
There's also a matter of getting arrested and fined. One Watamate may have been arrested by the police for daring to raise a voice during Watame Night Fever live.
 
Looking at Ina's performance again, from the way she moves I think she (meaning the actress, not the character) may have actually been wearing oversized platform shoes. Can't tell for sure, but if she was that must have made performing in front of people much more difficult.
 
No I'm American and to be honest the actual idol stuff still kinda weirds me out. You say that the concert goers aren't even allowed to speak at this thing? I was wondering why it was so quiet and thought that they just shut off the house mics for some reason. That blows my mind that fans would make themselves be muzzled, and I don't just mean the masks, to the point where they don't even sing along.
Been able to witness a good amount of irl idol concerts before and they have really strict protocols like no foods and cameras etc. + recent pandemic stuff like no cheering (just clapping instead) and JP audiences are really obedient of them because of culture and respect to the performers and all that. Even in normal concert settings, fans typically don't sing along as to not upstage the idols singing themselves and instead opt to do fan chants/cheers instead.

lol were they all given a rainbow's worth of glowsticks before they were allowed into the concert?

As for the light stick stuff mentioned earlier, typical idol lightsticks (sometimes called "kingblades") can change into different colors with just a button, usually at the bottom or side. Some groups (like Love Live groups) give out custom kingblades with specific colors/shades of the members "programed", while some kingblades you can buy from stores have generic colors which work too.

There's also lightsticks that come in one singular color and some that are single-use which are pretty much just really thick glowsticks, the most well-known of which are called "UO" or "Ultra Orange" glowsticks which are often reserved for hype moments of songs (and sometimes used for "griefing" performances (some antis in the audience might use them on emotional songs or songs with a coordinated color associated with it already as a sign of "disrespect" to the singer))

Anyways, Holo had a custom light stick for sale during Beyond the Stage back then with these colors available for example.
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Deep in the NORAD facility in the Cheyenne mountains, a voice speaks out from the darkness at a round table

"We have been too lax on fighting the weeaboo mennace. Soon these virtual girls will be walking our streets, confusing the minds of our young men with their niceness and cuteness. Birth rates will plummet to levels unseen before in our nation's history. Our women with their actual needs and complexities simply cannot compete against these highly idealized anthropomorphic gorls. For Christ's sake Mr President the have a fluffy sheep gorl and a fat cat gorl who may be in lesbians with a cute dog gorl! And those are just the ones we're aware of! Mr President...I recommend, and it's not a recommendation I issue lightly, a pre-emptive strike while we still have a chance. Japan needs a third nuke."
Nuking japan a third time would only make them stronger and more degenerate, you do not put out a fire with gasoline.
 
I really didn't know all of this about idol culture and concert protocol. It clears a lot of things but also doesn't make me feel better about it. Though I am an outsider who's only here for the games, schizo talks, and cute shenanigans so you do you Nippon.

Honest question, is all of the strict order used to prevent weirdos from harassing the performers or is it just the Japanese culture or some mixture?
 
Looking at Ina's performance again, from the way she moves I think she (meaning the actress, not the character) may have actually been wearing oversized platform shoes. Can't tell for sure, but if she was that must have made performing in front of people much more difficult.
Calli has mentioned before that Ina is really, really short. To the point that this must have been necessary, as they wouldn't torture her for this otherwise lol!

I really didn't know all of this about idol culture and concert protocol. It clears a lot of things but also doesn't make me feel better about it. Though I am an outsider who's only here for the games, schizo talks, and cute shenanigans so you do you Nippon.

Honest question, is all of the strict order used to prevent weirdos from harassing the performers or is it just the Japanese culture or some mixture?
A bit of both, I would wager. People get hyped up at these concerts, so it's expected that some in the crowd would lose their shit and start shouting, enforcing this environment helps in curbing this behaviour. And the schizo fans look just like any other fans if they are told to behave, so it works for that too!

On the topic of the Festival, fuck it, I'm loving it. They went all in with the costumes, with the merch, even got a Shuba Duck and Smol Ame to join as mascots!

Shows that they care about the fans, even with the Rushia situation it's been a blast. Fuck, to be honest, it did feel weird with her costume being the only one of her gen not to be there, but it shows how much she fucked up in handling this situation. Sad feelings all around!
 
I really didn't know all of this about idol culture and concert protocol. It clears a lot of things but also doesn't make me feel better about it. Though I am an outsider who's only here for the games, schizo talks, and cute shenanigans so you do you Nippon.

Honest question, is all of the strict order used to prevent weirdos from harassing the performers or is it just the Japanese culture or some mixture?
It’s more of a culture thing. Unlike western concerts which the performers used assist mixer and audition synthesizer, East Asians like Japanese and Koreans value individual talent (no lip singing) and you will get your money worth when attending live performances (literally). Outside of Hololive, JP idols and Seiyuu Idols scene live performance literally means live. They never used fake voice hence sometime they ran out of breath during live performance due to singing and dancing at the same time. It turns into a courtesy for the audience to keep silent and behave during the live performance so they appreciate the hard work the live performers put into it unlike western whom live performers can substitute their performance quality by dressing up in risqué outfits or heck twerking etc.

To sun up, it’s a culture thing.
 
I really didn't know all of this about idol culture and concert protocol. It clears a lot of things but also doesn't make me feel better about it. Though I am an outsider who's only here for the games, schizo talks, and cute shenanigans so you do you Nippon.

Honest question, is all of the strict order used to prevent weirdos from harassing the performers or is it just the Japanese culture or some mixture?
Like others have said, it mostly has to do with Japanese culture and isn't exclusive to idol faggory. If you ever watch Japanese pro wrestling you'll instantly notice that the crowd just sits there in complete silence and only claps for big spots or near falls.
 
I know we're all jazzed for Expo Day 2. We would be remiss, however, to miss this stream on the Niji-EN side. Actual real life friends Enna, Elira, and Millie are having an offcollab of some kind later tonight. I cannot imagine a scenario where this isn't an absolute riot.

A preview of their dynamic:

I imagine those two are the reason Elira got so much practice playing the straight man in Niji's group dynamics.
 
LMAO CHAMA'S LITTLE "gak-" WHEN DISAPPEARING
In case you missed it, here's the most important part of the whole show.

A preview of their dynamic:
I remember this clip. Some /vt/ schizo was claiming they scripted this bit, including Elira's laughter, to slay Elira nepotism rrats.
 
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