Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
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I think there's no breaking point anymore, people are too lazy, too dumb, their attention span reduced to nothing, anesthetized by drugs and shitty food
That bread and circuses requires them to be able to keep it up forever, never allowing significant amounts of pain to reach the pacified populations until it's too late. Recent trends seem to be indicating that they are losing the ability and competence required to keep everyone drugged. They are not immune to entropy.
 
thats cool and all but lets see them field it on an infantry count of >1 and then actually properly maintain it. They certainly don't appear to have updated any other part of their armory since the 90s.
Well the AK-12 seems to be doing nicely, who knew that being practical about shit and not requiring your equipment be cutting edge when you have a GDP the size of Italy's can actually get you somewhere.
To me it seems more like some conceptual shit, that they might have in a fieldable state 50 years from now.
It's not, they claimed to wanting it fieldable by 2025, but then again Russia seems to still think it's the USSR, that they can deploy new, advanced equipment. This isn't new for them, T-14, SU-57 and SU-75, the Zircon hypersonic missile. They develop this shit just to show it off because they can only make a couple dozen of these things tops.
 
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Makes me wonder, is there any practical way of making armor that can actually stop/deflect bullets that doesn't weight 500kg
not without hopium sci-fi materials or energy shielding technology that nobody has even crunched the math for let alone developed.
Edit: you could design armor to be more angled to encourage deflections if not for the fact that making a breast plate deflect a round means its going into either your arm, head or midsection.
 
Well the AK-12 seems to be doing nicely, who knew that being practical about shit and not requiring your equipment be cutting edge when you have a GDP the size of Italy's can actually get you somewhere.

It's not, they claimed to wanting it fieldable by 2025, but then again Russia seems to still think it's the USSR, that they can deploy new, advanced equipment. This isn't new for them, T-14, SU-57 and SU-75, the Zircon hypersonic missile. They develop this shit just to show it off because they can only make a couple dozen of these things tops.
That's really not all that abnormal for how most militaries do things though. Even the US does this to some extent, despite the fact that the US is somehow one of the few countries which can seem to just infinitely go into debt without any real consequences.
 
Makes me wonder, is there any practical way of making armor that can actually stop/deflect bullets that doesn't weight 500kg
Since SOTNIK is pure science fiction might as well compare it to it. Any armor that does get made that's able to do this would quickly run into the problem with MJOLNIR armor from Halo, where making it is so prohibitively expensive only a couple hundred can be made tops, which for frontline Infantry is basically unheard of. For MJOLNIR it's explicitly stated a single piece of armor costs as much as a midsized warship.
 
It seems the Ukrainian General Staff is convinced that Russia is replenishing and massing forces for an offensive in the Mykolaiv and western Zaporizhizhia Oblasts. It's a pretty big departure as the last thing of note I heard about that front was some bluster from the Ukrainians about a counteroffensive and someone here suggesting that Kherson could somehow do a Warsaw Uprising.
Sounds like some bullshit to me. It's no secret that the Russians have put offensive Mykolaiv operations on hold and got pushed back yesterday down highway M-14. They appear to be focusing efforts on a push north in the direction of Kryvyi Rih.
 
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Since the war is going so slowly, let me introduce you to one of the silliest things the Russians are claiming to try to field. Meet SOTNIK. a combat suit Russia claims can stop a .50 BMG, how it's going to stop one without turning the wearers insides into liquid mush the world will never know.
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But it looks sooo cool, maybe if we throw about 2 gorillion rubles at it it will become good?

Anyway, here is the ЭО-1 exoskeleton that looks cool and actually works.
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Since the war is going so slowly, let me introduce you to one of the silliest things the Russians are claiming to try to field. Meet SOTNIK. a combat suit Russia claims can stop a .50 BMG, how it's going to stop one without turning the wearers insides into liquid mush the world will never know.
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That Deus Ex: Human Revolution aesthetic is on point tho
 
Burning repair plant in Chernigov (link)



O-marked Russian special forces vehicles arrive. City unknown (link)



Kino footage of Russian tanks going to Kiev (link)



Russian TOS-1A does it's job. Region and city unknown (link)



BONUS: omg putin reference????????/??/?////// 😳😳😳

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Most of nestles stuff can be considered 'essential' if they're including things like cereal (which isn't essential). It'd be interesting to know what they have banned besides coffee.

Well, this is a slightly out of date listing of the brands they own:
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but I'd guess they've stopped selling things that can't be placed in the baby, cereal, dairy, health, or petcare sections. So no coffee, chocolate, candy, or ice cream. No fancy drinks and possibly no bottle water. No pre-packaged meals. Yeah cereal technically isn't essential, but it's more or less seen as a basic staple food not a luxury item, and I'm guessing they don't want to be accused of removing basic staple food from people.

It'd be neat, but I'm certain that Putin won't be doing that at this juncture. He has too many domestic problems created by the sanctions as it is to go about compounding them by kicking out western companies that are still attempting to provide basic services in Russia. He can't afford to risk creating real shortages of important food. He's already felt the need to temporarily suspend grain and sugar exports to protect Russia's supplies and market. If he suddenly has gaping holes on store shelves where baby food and pet food used to be, he's going to have some real panic buying on his hands. Supposedly he already has some, though given the lack of a source on that video, I'd wager on it being one of the surrounding countries that's impacted by events.

So yeah, for the foreseeable future Putin's going to be happy to keep any companies still doing business with Russia, even if there's good reason to dislike them.
 
But it looks sooo cool, maybe if we throw about 2 gorillion rubles at it it will become good?

Anyway, here is the ЭО-1 exoskeleton that looks cool and actually works.
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Think an EMP would turn off those elysium larp systems? Near future war will be very interesting, men and machine alike stopped in their tracks without shedding a drop of blood. "Marvels" of technology and huge wastes of resources instantly shuttered by just detonating some bombs in atmosphere. Entire economies and transportation networks crushed with the bell-curve plebs doing the enemy's work for them by going batshit with no Netflix and burning down their own decadent civilizations.
 
But it looks sooo cool, maybe if we throw about 2 gorillion rubles at it it will become good?

Anyway, here is the ЭО-1 exoskeleton that looks cool and actually works.
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They should have spend the money on decent comms. Civilian walkie talkies that anyone can listen into seems stupid. The All bling no basics video linked earlier (at c. 40:30) suggests that much has been absorbed by high cost nuclear and other forces, new wunderwaffen like the SU-57 and T-14, that there are serious 'capability gaps' such that most of the vast spending is not relevant to the overall military operation in Ukraine. Now the more recent use of the Kinzhal or dagger suggests some of this spending has been to use, but a relatively new Ukrainian military and militia focussed solely on defence while the Russian focus is dissipated on nuclear and other high cost service arms evens a lot of the apparent force disparity.

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Now it isn't wholly clear how well founded the claims of very low morale are. If there are more conscripts than Russia has admitted (it said the only ones found there shouldn't have there), that element likely starts with no morale of speak of given chronic bullying with the 'grandfather' system where young conscripts face rape and physical assault. If the force is largely professional, it has always happened that some soldiers bug out when faced with intense combat, and fake or inflict injuries despite the certainty that combat medics will detect that without much difficulty. The claims might be exaggerated, and remain uncertain. Captured soldiers saying this and that is an uncertain source.
 
That's really not all that abnormal for how most militaries do things though. Even the US does this to some extent, despite the fact that the US is somehow one of the few countries which can seem to just infinitely go into debt without any real consequences.
The US can spend so much money that it can crank out three lemons for every one quality piece of new equipment and still have the money to mass produce the one quality piece

Japan has had a debt to GDP ratio of over 200% for decades and somehow has got away with it, the US is at like 120% right now so it can keep it up for a while yet
 
Think an EMP would turn off those elysium larp systems? Near future war will be very interesting, men and machine alike stopped in their tracks without shedding a drop of blood. "Marvels" of technology and huge wastes of resources instantly shuttered by just detonating some bombs in atmosphere. Entire economies and transportation networks crushed with the bell-curve plebs doing the enemy's work for them by going batshit with no Netflix and burning down their own decadent civilizations.
Actually, in contrast to the American variant, Russian exoskeletons are not powered. They are entirely mechanical slavish junk at their best, but they relieve up to 100 kilos from the soldier's burden.Energy storage is a huge issue with exoskeletons. Carrying 50 kilos of batteries on your back is not ideal.
 
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