Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Observotron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/thvlv6/getting_real_tired_of_the_whole_innocent_russians/

Why do I get the feeling that these cunts are conflating people understanding why this has had to happen to being supportive of it, hmm..
But yeah,
>leddit

If there's anything this conflict should highlight is how quickly groups that like to consider themselves 'peaceful' and 'friendly' become ravenous beasts once they get the okay to hate someone.

Everyone wants a new Hitler to hate no matter how many people have to die to get there.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Kinda shitty how we got more and better combat footage from wanna-be islamic warlords fighting over sand than from a full scale invasion with two fairly modern militaries.

To be fair it's much safer to film that stuff. Nobody wants to do much filming when artillery is coming down everywhere around them.

 

[DumbDude42]

So, this is the American civil war but this time the British, Russians, French and Germans decided to back the Confederacy.

no, it's more like one of the numerous english invasions of scotland, except this time all europe is backing the scots and they are armed to the teeth

 

[Mr Bunny]

I would say part of it is that our government isn't nearly as cohesive as it seems in policy making. For starters every 8 years maximum we change the top guy.

This is the number 1 complaint I hear from guys when they want to do business with US. Every 4-8 years the new guy is radically different from the last guy.

You can start to the understand the appeal with doing business with more authoritarian governments beucase the top guy can be there for life.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

hmm ok
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Yeah, I'm not seeing the benefit of trading our corrupt oligarchs for theirs.

That same image has Russia's total casualties go from more than 18.000 to around 14.000. None of the numbers are worth looking at.

The Kyiv Independent is about as truthful as that weird Russian battle map. There are certain sources that are biased but trying to pass on information honestly and in good faith (like Oryx, ISW, and Militaryland) and then there are just plain propagandists. The Kyiv Independent is the latter. It is not worth your time if you want to be informed.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

This is the number 1 complaint I hear from guys when they want to do business with US. Every 4-8 years the new guy is radically different from the last guy.

It's a real pain in the ass in some regards. On the other hand it helps avoid president for life problems so it goes both ways. Imagine two decades of Bush or Obama ffs.

 

[The Other Baldwin]

I've switched sides yet again. Between the Russians using Chechens as bullet bait, and the Ukrainians rounding up Socialists, I am so morally compromised I am taking both sides. I am now the Tulsi Gabbard of the bloodlands foreverwar.

Totally not a propaganda war...6/10 US.....9/10 Ukraine. Pointy knees. Don't get killed, Thot.

https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1505250554141986817

Lol.

 

[White_N]

It's an interesting video of a pro-Russian Anglo filming cities that Russia occupies. At times, he can be a little too based even for Russians. From what I can gather, he is a daredevil who filmed DPR in 2014 and now he has returned. If you can't speak snow languige this channel is a pretty good source of information.

 

[halfway crook]

If that missile's warhead hadn't exploded, rest assured every piece of the missile that could be found would be on its' way out of the country, destination USA. Could happen later, has already happened with a warhead for another type of missile.

Added; The Soviets/Russians provided their "monkey-models" of equipment/weapons to foreign countries. They kept the fully-capable versions for themselves. Was surprised to see them use the hypersonic missile in a non-existential (for them) war. I wouldn't have used the missile, but then again I wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, or if I had I would have had a workable logistics plan, or a workable plan, period.

It’s funny how you think you are smarter than the leaders of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

Ofc there is a plan. In fact, most likely there are several plans for several different scenarios.

You think Putin just woke up one day and called his Generals and said ”Blyat, invade Ukraine now, no time for plan”?

They have moved troops to the broder for months. Probably been planning for years.

This is what makes me think there is probably stuff in the works we dont know about.

It would have been madness to invade Ukraine and not think about sanctions and make plans thereafter for example.

 

[Lone MacReady]

It's a real pain in the ass in some regards. On the other hand it helps avoid president for life problems so it goes both ways. Imagine two decades of Bush or Obama ffs.

Them being bribed lobbied by the same people kindov makes that mute though, unfortunately. We are seeing now that PedoJoe is basically just Puppet Negroid chapter 3.

 

[Freezard]

Kinda shitty how we got more and better combat footage from wanna-be islamic warlords fighting over sand than from a full scale invasion with two fairly modern militaries.

Operational security my man. Islamic warlords don't have glowie military intelligence departments searching for and scrutinizing every detail they can so they can shoot off a message to an officer in an area and say "We're pretty damn certain there's a fucking tank company operating in your area," or "hey here's where these multiple rocket launch systems have set up, for when your artillery guys are bored," and meanwhile the guys who just got exposed don't have similar knowledge of the people coming to ass rape them, or are in for a rude surprise when the people who weren't supposed to know they were there, do, and are ready.
One might point to what footage has been released, and while some of that has been slip ups (resulting in bad shit) one also looks to stuff that's purposefully released and not released. Anything the Russian ministry of defense releases for example will have been screened of anything that can be used against them.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Them being bribed lobbied by the same people kindov makes that mute though, unfortunately. We are seeing now that PedoJoe is basically just Puppet Negroid chapter 3.

Yeah let's not even get into how lobbying fucks everything up. Seriously our government is fractured as fuck in some ways, and they make it worse.

 

[Ecliptic]

TOS-1 thermobaric rocket artillery:

 

[Jump]

I am thinking Potato Joe's meeting with Xi didn't scare the chinks to much.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1255284.shtml

Also they are still salty about that time NATO peacfully bombed their embassy in 1999 killing some chinamen.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

It’s funny how you think you are smarter than the leaders of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

Ofc there is a plan. In fact, most likely there are several plans for several different scenarios.

I too was once young and naive and had faith in leaders of government and military generals being competent. I grew out of it.

 

[Lone MacReady]

Yeah let's not even get into how lobbying fucks everything up. Seriously our government is fractured as fuck in some ways, and they make it worse.

Don't forget about the corrupt politician's family members getting to spend decades installed in power as well (from presidents to mayors), amassing huge fortunes from their bribes and insider trades (hi Pelosi). With families controlling the nation for decades...

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

It’s funny how you think you are smarter than the leaders of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

Ofc there is a plan. In fact, most likely there are several plans for several different scenarios.

You think Putin just woke up one day and called his Generals and said ”Blyat, invade Ukraine now, no time for plan”?

They have moved troops to the broder for months. Probably been planning for years.

This is what makes me think there is probably stuff in the works we dont know about.

It would have been madness to invade Ukraine and not think about sanctions and make plans thereafter for example.

One fact of the matter remains that proves Russia had a shit plan, they invaded Ukraine with only 200,000 troops tops.

Ukraine's active army alone is around the same amount, and reservists also around 200,000, when invading a power that has access to the things Ukraine has you want at least 1.5:1 number advantage, but assuming half of Ukraine's reserve is called up Ukraine will have that numbers advantage, which means any offensive will cause very heavy causalities that will quickly result in said offensive stalling out from suffering too many losses in manpower and equipment, which seems to be what happened to most of the fronts.

Russia hinged most their bets on a quick, decisive strike. Capture Kiev before the active personnel and reserves can be called up and deployed and the military aid from the West starts to arrive in strategically significant numbers.

Now Russia is left at an impasse, it's becoming more unlikely by the day they can capture Kiev and other major cities with their current manpower and equipment in Ukraine, so they're left at either doubling down and risk the homefront to win the war of attrition this is turning into, or come at a compromised peace that involves the current Ukraine Regime staying in power, but getting recognition of the Donbass region and Crimea.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/putin-could-women-refugees-ukraine-122721614.html

The UK is going full paranoid retard about russia it seems

Holy shit that's fucking nuts

Getting mad 2003 flashbacks to "Saddam could..." here. Everybody remembers the WMD storuy, but they also used the exact same story about how Saddam could send secret Iraqi agents to spread chemical and biological weapons hidden in aerosol cans and whatnot - better invade right away!

I would say part of it is that our government isn't nearly as cohesive as it seems in policy making. For starters every 8 years maximum we change the top guy. Every time that happens new flunkies get appointed to the state department. They stay there the rest of their lives, and tend to have the policies of the people who appointed them. It leads to a lot of policy making and action that doesn't always really have a consistent flow to it. Those unelected guys have a significant amount of power over policy in some cases.

No, mang. It's the opposite: the faces change, but the agenda remains consistent whoever you vote for. DC is a monoculture fed and watered by donorbux and it has a very effective filtering system to keep out anybody who might upset any of the major grifts going on. They were incredibly mad at Trump slipping thru thanks to a series of unlikely events, but they plugged that gap in the fortified election of 2020 and it won't be allowed to happen again.

There's a degree of internal politics as various factions squabble over their slice of the pie, their particular priorities etc. (Obama was less close to the neocons than Dubya for example) but overall the American oligarchs and their pet politicians all pretty tight with each other. That's why they waste so much time talking shit about culture war nonsense and the extremely gay wedge issues that entails, to keep dumbasses thinking being allowed to select between Pepsi or Coke is a real choice. As Hillary said "if we broke up the banks, would that cure RACISM? "

My nigga Dale Gribble did nothing wrong.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Don't forget about the corrupt politician's family members getting to spend decades installed in power as well (from presidents to mayors), amassing huge fortunes from their bribes and insider trades (hi Pelosi). With families controlling the nation for decades...

Yeah it's fucked. The worst part is, the alternatives aren't really much better. Either the rich get powerful or the powerful get rich in every system yet. Hell our level of corruption isn't even close to some places.

 

[The Other Baldwin]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/19/battle-for-control-of-mariupol-hinders-rescue-of-civilians-trapped-in-theatre

This is what happens when closet dwellers with sunglasses and top knots arm 5 foot tall women with an AK, ten rounds, and her squad is made up of HIV ridden slavs. Guys in the back looking at her ass like...