RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

More or less, yeah. You don't remove a tumor to replace it with a different tumor, I think the core of the issue is Ozpin's role as this immortal entity that body snatches people in his pursuit of fighting Salem (another character that I would either remove entirely or DRASTICALLY revise). I'm not gonna remove Oscar just to replace him with a different character in service of a plot point I find stupid.

PS: If I were forced to keep Ozpin's reincarnation as a plot point then sure, probably Juane. Or I'd go way off the deep end and make it Ruby, or Pyrrah. Ruby because it would allow us to keep the main four characters and trim down on the size of the ensemble but now one of them has this really horrifying psychological shit going on. I'd keep it pretty low key for Volume 4 where she's just receiving visions and flashbacks to memories that aren't her own, and occasionally speaking or acting in a way that could only be described as "wrong" for Ruby, and then in Volume 5 I'd have the big reveal and subsequent "what the fuck?" horror show, I also feel that making Ozpin consume one of the main girls would probably drive some legitimacy over to Raven's beliefs and actually portray Ozpin as the morally gray chess master that Monty was trying to portray him as. Alternatively Pyrrah comes back, but she's still dead. Her soul or whatever this setting has instead of a soul has passed on, but her body remained instead of being vaporized, or Ozpin's essence reformed it, or whatever. Point is; Pyrrah is still around physically but it's Oz puppeteering it. Really drive home the horrific nature of Oz's existence.
Give me the Ruby scenario. If anything, it could keep her from just being the mascot…if done right. Only issue is that it’s just more special main character shit given to her which some have an issue with apparently.
 
Give me the Ruby scenario. If anything, it could keep her from just being the mascot…if done right. Only issue is that it’s just more special main character shit given to her which some have an issue with apparently.
Honestly I don't have a whole script or outline thought out and the issue with changing something in RWBY is that it necessitates (at least in my mind) changing a bunch of other stuff around until finally I end up with an entirely new script and a post way too long for the Farms, but I'll try to keep it short and succinct:

>Ozpin can choose who he reincarnates into
>Ozpin has been hopping between hunters/huntresses since the very earliest days
>Ozpin seeks out those young people with tremendous power and auras so that his new body can serve him for a long time and his vast experience doesn't go to waste with a body that can't keep up
>Ozpin uses the school as a testing ground to groom students he sees as exceptional so that when he dies he has some convenient back-ups ready to go
>Ozpin was grooming STRQ for this purpose
>Now that every member of STRQ is either retired and fat (Ty), weakened by age and alcoholism (Qrow), able to resist him due to maiden powers (Raven), or dead (Summer), he sees RWBY as his new chance
>He possessed Ruby because she's physically powerful, possesses a very useful and powerful semblance, has a very strong aura, and the silver eyes are the cherry on top

Now obviously we don't know all of this at first but we'll figure it out as the series goes on, it's also important to note that in this version of events I picture that many of the most famous and successful hunters of all time are actually Ozpin in his various guises, Ozpin feels no remorse for any of this because of two things; the stakes are incredibly high if he fails, and at this point he's gone so far beyond the bounds of morality that he's just grown numb to it.

Chess is a very cold game, for lack of a better term. Chessmasters feel no remorse or hesitation over sacrificing pieces to serve the greater goal at hand, the end goal is the elimination of the opponent's King and any move that furthers that goal is a good move. I think that this is the attitude that Ozpin should have, not overtly so as to save face in front of others, but internally those are his true thoughts on the matter. Everyone is expendable to Ozpin, the only difference is that people like team RWBY, STRQ, and JNPR are too valuable to be mere pawns, they're more like bishops or rooks.
 
Honestly I don't have a whole script or outline thought out and the issue with changing something in RWBY is that it necessitates (at least in my mind) changing a bunch of other stuff around until finally I end up with an entirely new script and a post way too long for the Farms, but I'll try to keep it short and succinct:

>Ozpin can choose who he reincarnates into
>Ozpin has been hopping between hunters/huntresses since the very earliest days
>Ozpin seeks out those young people with tremendous power and auras so that his new body can serve him for a long time and his vast experience doesn't go to waste with a body that can't keep up
>Ozpin uses the school as a testing ground to groom students he sees as exceptional so that when he dies he has some convenient back-ups ready to go
>Ozpin was grooming STRQ for this purpose
>Now that every member of STRQ is either retired and fat (Ty), weakened by age and alcoholism (Qrow), able to resist him due to maiden powers (Raven), or dead (Summer), he sees RWBY as his new chance
>He possessed Ruby because she's physically powerful, possesses a very useful and powerful semblance, has a very strong aura, and the silver eyes are the cherry on top

Now obviously we don't know all of this at first but we'll figure it out as the series goes on, it's also important to note that in this version of events I picture that many of the most famous and successful hunters of all time are actually Ozpin in his various guises, Ozpin feels no remorse for any of this because of two things; the stakes are incredibly high if he fails, and at this point he's gone so far beyond the bounds of morality that he's just grown numb to it.

Chess is a very cold game, for lack of a better term. Chessmasters feel no remorse or hesitation over sacrificing pieces to serve the greater goal at hand, the end goal is the elimination of the opponent's King and any move that furthers that goal is a good move. I think that this is the attitude that Ozpin should have, not overtly so as to save face in front of others, but internally those are his true thoughts on the matter. Everyone is expendable to Ozpin, the only difference is that people like team RWBY, STRQ, and JNPR are too valuable to be mere pawns, they're more like bishops or rooks.
Nice. The only other thing I remember was that after V5 laid out all the cards, the show backtracked because they said that Salem is the real antagonist and Ozpin’s the Dumbledore and not a callous manipulator that sees everyone as mere tools.
 
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Nice. The only other thing I remember was that after V5 laid out all the cards, the show backtracked because they said that Salem is the real antagonist and Ozpin’s the Dumbledore and not a callous manipulator that sees everyone as mere tools.
Honestly making Salem into an Old God who wishes to devour the entire world and strip life from all creation kinda necessitates that sort of change since a threat that big and looming has a tendency to make damn near any action or sacrifice make sense since the greater evil in that scenario is literally global extinction.

Making Salem into more of a classical evil witch style character who wants to rule over the world and use the Grimm as her servants to keep her human slaves obedient and build a society where she harvests the negative emotions and suffering of her subjects to power her fell magics in order to maintain her power would make more sense. Firstly it reinforces the fairy tale theme of the show by making your big villain a literal wicked witch, secondly it also allows for a much easier questioning of someone like Ozpin's methods since he is equally as inhuman and cruel as Salem but in a different way.

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Honestly making Salem into an Old God who wishes to devour the entire world and strip life from all creation kinda necessitates that sort of change since a threat that big and looming has a tendency to make damn near any action or sacrifice make sense since the greater evil in that scenario is literally global extinction.

Making Salem into more of a classical evil witch style character who wants to rule over the world and use the Grimm as her servants to keep her human slaves obedient and build a society where she harvests the negative emotions and suffering of her subjects to power her fell magics in order to maintain her power would make more sense. Firstly it reinforces the fairy tale theme of the show by making your big villain a literal wicked witch, secondly it also allows for a much easier questioning of someone like Ozpin's methods since he is equally as inhuman and cruel as Salem but in a different way.

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Kind of surprised why Monty and company didn’t do something like that.
 
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Kind of surprised why Monty and company didn’t do something like that.
I think the single biggest issue with RWBY as a series is that it entered production without a story. I don't think that Monty or anyone working with him had a story outline so much as they just had scenes. There wasn't really a plan for "The series will be this many seasons and this many episodes per season and this is our endgame" and it really shows once you get to Volume 5, sure they had tons of financial and staffing issues that volume but you can tell that they never had a through line for their story even beyond that. I don't consider myself a great writer but I do consider myself a decent organizer and a project like that needs a roadmap.
 
I really have to ask where the idea that Ironwood’s arm could have ‘totally’ healed itself and he just cut it off because he ‘views his own humanity as a weakness’ shit came from. There’s bumfuck nothing that implies his arm could have healed. Watts himself even implied that he’d lose the arm if he ripped it out of that trap.
My boi Ironwood dindu nuffin wrong, stop inventing reasons to vilify him.
 
I really have to ask where the idea that Ironwood’s arm could have ‘totally’ healed itself and he just cut it off because he ‘views his own humanity as a weakness’ shit came from. There’s bumfuck nothing that implies his arm could have healed. Watts himself even implied that he’d lose the arm if he ripped it out of that trap.
One word; Overanalyzing. Ironwood and his motiff, the tin man, barely had anything in common. RT themselves are bumfuck retarded to even pull off "Thy flesh is weak" character trope. Every single thing said in that blog post are pretty much boiled down to astonishing feats of mental gymnastics and delusional ramblings. It ultimately highlights the mentality of the people who still watch this show unironically, they're gaslighting themselves into thinking that the story is deeper than it actually is and that the critics and haters are always wrong about RWBY.
 
One word; Overanalyzing. Ironwood and his motiff, the tin man, barely had anything in common. RT themselves are bumfuck retarded to even pull off "Thy flesh is weak" character trope. Every single thing said in that blog post are pretty much boiled down to astonishing feats of mental gymnastics and delusional ramblings. It ultimately highlights the mentality of the people who still watch this show unironically, they're gaslighting themselves into thinking that the story is deeper than it actually is and that the critics and haters are always wrong about RWBY.
More than that, there's a better version of said trope since 4 years ago.
 
I really have to ask where the idea that Ironwood’s arm could have ‘totally’ healed itself and he just cut it off because he ‘views his own humanity as a weakness’ shit came from. There’s bumfuck nothing that implies his arm could have healed. Watts himself even implied that he’d lose the arm if he ripped it out of that trap.
Where is it ever implied that he views humanity as a weakness? These people are so retarded. The only thing I can think of is that we know Aura can heal you, but the extent to which it can is still unclear. Weiss got stabbed through the back and stomach but in a very not-fatal area, she doesn't have a colostomy bag or anything so we can assume that everything got patched up via magic, but trying to hunt for any kind of logical consistency with the powers in this show is a one way trip to nonsense central.
My boi Ironwood dindu nuffin wrong
He did though, he didn't throw team RWBY and Qrow in jail the moment they stepped foot into Atlus with a piece of stolen military tech. All of his problems would have sorted themselves out from there if he had.
RT themselves are bumfuck retarded to even pull off "Thy flesh is weak" character trope.
It's a running trend that the character the crew thinks they're writing is usually trending in the opposite direction of what they intend anyway. Why somebody would even try to make sense of their discombobulated character development is what floors me. Nobody makes any sense, and if they seem like they are, the writers will pivot at the last second and completely undermine everything they've built up to that point.
 
I think the single biggest issue with RWBY as a series is that it entered production without a story. I don't think that Monty or anyone working with him had a story outline so much as they just had scenes. There wasn't really a plan for "The series will be this many seasons and this many episodes per season and this is our endgame" and it really shows once you get to Volume 5, sure they had tons of financial and staffing issues that volume but you can tell that they never had a through line for their story even beyond that. I don't consider myself a great writer but I do consider myself a decent organizer and a project like that needs a roadmap.
Apparently, it's even worse than that. From what I've seen, all they had the idea of four differently coloured girls and some ideas for their designs. He didn't even have an idea for a basic plot when it was greenlit. Even in the early production Monty's ideas were incredibly vague and unhelpful. They were given one word to describe how he "envisioned" characters and had to write around that.
 
Apparently, it's even worse than that. From what I've seen, all they had the idea of four differently coloured girls and some ideas for their designs. He didn't even have an idea for a basic plot when it was greenlit. Even in the early production Monty's ideas were incredibly vague and unhelpful. They were given one word to describe how he "envisioned" characters and had to write around that.
Well, everyone seemed to think that RWBY was just Dead Fantasy made into a series.
 
Apparently, it's even worse than that. From what I've seen, all they had the idea of four differently coloured girls and some ideas for their designs. He didn't even have an idea for a basic plot when it was greenlit. Even in the early production Monty's ideas were incredibly vague and unhelpful. They were given one word to describe how he "envisioned" characters and had to write around that.
What made it worse is that, even as Miles and Kerry were writing the show, he kept insisting on adding his own ideas that didn't necessarily line up with theirs (even though their ideas uniformly suck, but this just made it worse). For example, that whole scene of Yang meeting her mom outside beacon at the very end of Volume 2 was Monty's idea, and M&K didn't want to do it, which showed later, because next volume, after Monty was dead, they didn't follow up on that at all and basically pretended that never happened. The maidens, if I remember correctly, were also Monty's idea, and M&K just had to find a way to slot that idea into the story, which is why, even now, they feel tacked on. Because they are.
 
What made it worse is that, even as Miles and Kerry were writing the show, he kept insisting on adding his own ideas that didn't necessarily line up with theirs (even though their ideas uniformly suck, but this just made it worse). For example, that whole scene of Yang meeting her mom outside beacon at the very end of Volume 2 was Monty's idea, and M&K didn't want to do it, which showed later, because next volume, after Monty was dead, they didn't follow up on that at all and basically pretended that never happened. The maidens, if I remember correctly, were also Monty's idea, and M&K just had to find a way to slot that idea into the story, which is why, even now, they feel tacked on. Because they are.
And to think, Shane and Sheena could have done the writing.
 
What made it worse is that, even as Miles and Kerry were writing the show, he kept insisting on adding his own ideas that didn't necessarily line up with theirs (even though their ideas uniformly suck, but this just made it worse). For example, that whole scene of Yang meeting her mom outside beacon at the very end of Volume 2 was Monty's idea, and M&K didn't want to do it, which showed later, because next volume, after Monty was dead, they didn't follow up on that at all and basically pretended that never happened. The maidens, if I remember correctly, were also Monty's idea, and M&K just had to find a way to slot that idea into the story, which is why, even now, they feel tacked on. Because they are.
You are right about the maidens, Monty came up with them during the pre production of volume 3. He often came up with ideas and implemented them without M&Ks' knowledge as he was often doing so late at night, where the only person who was with him would've been his biggest bitch Shane who enabled his awful work ethic, which lead to him not having anyone who'd push back against any of his ideas and leaving everyone to pick up the pieces in trying to fit it into what they already had.

It really shouldn't be understated how much of a shitshow the production of RWBY was since the beginning. Volume 1's many part 2s came from the episodes being unfinished regularly, volume 2 needed the "world of remnant" to buy time to finish episodes and volume 3 showed just how little forethought had actually been put in. Hell, it was the first volume to undergo any form of preproduction. They were winging it the whole time.
 
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