Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Duke Nukem]

Holy fuck why are people surprised when the Russians pull this? They were using cell stuff to track targets for strikes back in 2014. This is not a new or hidden capability.

There are some things that years of Call of Duty do not teach aspiring soldiers or mercenaries. Like, you know, how not to get spotted by artillery observers via telecommunications.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

bitch couldn't even come up with an original term and had to steal from the Hutus in Rwanda for the genocidal insult lol.

This confirms my white nigger hypothesis.

 

[PittyKitty]

Can we already either skip to Russia - USA-China bombing shit of each other and ending the civilization for the rest of us or to the point Zelensky and Putin shakes hands and then Zelensky ends with a bullet in his skull but we have some sort of normality?
Because its Monday morning again and somehow despite all mighty pandemic and now potential nuclear holocaust we still are expected to go to work.
And i dont like it.

Also my attention span got so bad I want new and exciting current things. C'mon Russia, do something.

 

[Wash away the rain]

>"I hate these Jihadi economic migrants raping all the white women & blowing up concerts"
>"Get ready to swallow Allah's cock you filthy slavs"

>"You're siding with unironic Neo-Nazis!"
>Sides with a nostalgic dictator invading a neighboring country

>"We hate Nazis!"
>Sides with the Azov battalion

>"Critical Race Theory is wrong"
>Nitpicks who counts as white & who doesn't

Everyone is a hypocrite.

I think the Jews in charge of this war wanted it to be as confusing as possible to possibly mindbreak the average person paying attention and to find those who their programs don’t work on .

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Okay, but the Kievan Rus wasn't the start of Ukraine, it was the start of Russia. The lands now known as Ukraine weren't conceptualized as its own nation until at earliest the 1800's, and that's being generous. Kiev existed under the rule of countless states before being lumped together with the rest of 'Ukraine', almost all of whom had some political and cultural justification for ruling it, especially those powers native to eastern Europe.

'Kyiv didn't exist until recently' is accurate in that the modern conception of Ukraine as a succinct nation state with a clear identity and presence is new, throughout nearly the entirety of the existence of Kiev it would have been know not by what some local would have called it, but by what its name according to its ruling power would have been. French and English statesmen wouldn't have thought of 'Ukraine' during the Crimean War as anything other than a region within Russia, similarly they would not have thought of Ukrainian or Ukrainian versions of city names as anything other than subgroups of Russian linguistics.

As retarded as that sheboon usually is, Candace Owens is actually right so far as it matters that 'Kyiv' has only existed since the end of the Cold War. Man, she's so smart, no wonder Saint Tarrant was inspired by her.
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Issue I take with this whole thing is way too many people use this to say "Kyiv only existed after the Cold War, therefore Ukraine is rightful Russian Clay." It's been 30 years since Ukraine became an independent country, that part is inarguable. At that point, a significant part of the population of both Ukraine and Russia never remembers a time under where Ukraine was a part of the USSR and instead as its own country. After so much time has passed you start getting fucking politicians in Ukraine and Russia who don't remember Ukraine as a region in the USSR, its independence was really solidified.

I think that was one of the things Putin didn't take into account when it came to Crimea and the Donbass vs the rest of Ukraine, 8 years is a long time.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Okay, but the Kievan Rus wasn't the start of Ukraine, it was the start of Russia. The lands now known as Ukraine weren't conceptualized as its own nation until at earliest the 1800's, and that's being generous. Kiev existed under the rule of countless states before being lumped together with the rest of 'Ukraine', almost all of whom had some political and cultural justification for ruling it, especially those powers native to eastern Europe.

'Kyiv didn't exist until recently' is accurate in that the modern conception of Ukraine as a succinct nation state with a clear identity and presence is new, throughout nearly the entirety of the existence of Kiev it would have been know not by what some local would have called it, but by what its name according to its ruling power would have been. French and English statesmen wouldn't have thought of 'Ukraine' during the Crimean War as anything other than a region within Russia, similarly they would not have thought of Ukrainian or Ukrainian versions of city names as anything other than subgroups of Russian linguistics.

As retarded as that sheboon usually is, Candace Owens is actually right so far as it matters that 'Kyiv' has only existed since the end of the Cold War. Man, she's so smart, no wonder Saint Tarrant was inspired by her.
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Thanks to Saint Tarrant, I have subscribed to PewDiePie and it changed my life.

Can we already either skip to Russia - USA-China bombing shit of each other and ending the civilization for the rest of us or to the point Zelensky and Putin shakes hands and then Zelensky ends with a bullet in his skull but we have some sort of normality?
Because its Monday morning again and somehow despite all mighty pandemic and now potential nuclear holocaust we still are expected to go to work.
And i dont like it.

Also my attention span got so bad I want new and exciting current things. C'mon Russia, do something.

If I were Xi Jinping right about now I'd be considering my options on Taiwan, or perhaps some other sort of irredentism.

Issue I take with this whole thing is way too many people use this to say "Kyiv only existed after the Cold War, therefore Ukraine is rightful Russian Clay." It's been 30 years since Ukraine became an independent country, that part is inarguable. At that point, a significant part of the population of both Ukraine and Russia never remembers a time under where Ukraine was a part of the USSR and instead as its own country. After so much time has passed you start getting fucking politicians in Ukraine and Russia who don't remember Ukraine as a region in the USSR, its independence was really solidified.

I think that was one of the things Putin didn't take into account when it came to Crimea and the Donbass vs the rest of Ukraine, 8 years is a long time.

Also, Ukraine has been independent off and on over the past few centuries, particularly during the Russian Civil War.

 

[MrJokerRager]

There are some things that years of Call of Duty do not teach aspiring soldiers or mercenaries. Like, you know, how not to get spotted by artillery observers via telecommunications.

Does Metal Gear Solid count?

 

[JosephStalin]

Most normies in America, even college educated ones probably don't even know Russia was in WW2. Hell my boomer mom didn't until I mentioned it when she was asking me some stuff about history. The "America did all of the work" meme is actually true to varying degrees. Hell just look at what people believe in and ask yourself "do the majority of people even think about history?"

Recently talked with a young college grad about this war, and some basic WWII history. Nice fellow, but didn't know what Operation OVERLORD was, or what year we nuked Japan. Bought him a copy of Bloodlands and the first volume of the GULAG Archipelago. The young man appreciated the books, said he was reading Bloodlands. Bought myself a copy of Babi Yar. Re-read it, first read it over 50 years ago. Told the young man I would loan him that book after he read the other two books.

Sometimes I shudder inside when I realize just how little history is being taught in schools these days. "Those who don't learn their history will live to repeat it."

 

[Rezza]

Right, its Monday. Let's see if Mariupol managed to hold this week. Even holding it today would be impressive for the Azov and Naval Infantry Regiment

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

Pretty sure that's politicians world wide. Maybe what we really need to do end this war is get all the heads of state involved together for a fun night of hookers and blow.

Unfortunately, Epstein's Island is out of business.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Right, its Monday. Let's see if Mariupol managed to hold this week. Even holding it today would be impressive for the Azov and Naval Infantry Regiment

I'm more curious if we're going to get any footage of of Mariupol today, or if the artillery's going to be too thick to get a signal.

 

[Stoneheart]

with a young college grad

okay

Nice fellow, but didn't know what Operation OVERLORD was, or what year we nuked Japan.

your education system sucks...

 

[Duke Nukem]

Does Metal Gear Solid count?

Yeah, sure it does.

Recently talked with a young college grad about this war, and some basic WWII history. Nice fellow, but didn't know what Operation OVERLORD was, or what year we nuked Japan. Bought him a copy of Bloodlands and the first volume of the GULAG Archipelago. The young man appreciated the books, said he was reading Bloodlands. Bought myself a copy of Babi Yar. Re-read it, first read it over 50 years ago. Told the young man I would loan him that book after he read the other two books.

Sometimes I shudder inside when I realize just how little history is being taught in schools these days. "Those who don't learn their history will live to repeat it."

I know of some high school graduates that weren't even aware that America once fought a war with Japan, but that is either depressing or terrifying, maybe both, and I'm not sure which.

The way Redditors have been looking at the Russo-Ukrainian War reminds me of the way many young men looked at the prospect of war in Europe at or around 1914. Thinking it would be a grand adventure like in a Jules Verne novel or a children's cartoon show. In their defense, war did not become the industrialized lunacy that World War I would come to be known for, and they were young, inexperienced, and wanting to prove themselves somehow.

Redditors should know better.

okay


your education system sucks...

We're not allowed to teach history as it really happened, only about Hitler and slavery and how we are all very naughty people for living in a world where that stuff even happened in the first place, but we're not allowed to ask why.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Dumb hashtags aside this is fucking depressing. As someone who had a lot of friends from high school join the Army to get some better opportunities when they came back, this hits home. These kids probably did the same thing, after all, worst case scenario is Russia declares war on goat hoarders.

 

[Trout P]

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JFC

 

[Kane Lives]

Recently talked with a young college grad about this war, and some basic WWII history. Nice fellow, but didn't know what Operation OVERLORD was, or what year we nuked Japan. Bought him a copy of Bloodlands and the first volume of the GULAG Archipelago. The young man appreciated the books, said he was reading Bloodlands. Bought myself a copy of Babi Yar. Re-read it, first read it over 50 years ago. Told the young man I would loan him that book after he read the other two books.

Sometimes I shudder inside when I realize just how little history is being taught in schools these days. "Those who don't learn their history will live to repeat it."

Americans aren't alone in having an abysmal history module, to be fair. My shithole country had three years of mandatory history in the latter half of high school but a lot of it is garbage.

 

[Mr Bunny]

The way Redditors have been looking at the Russo-Ukrainian War reminds me of the way many young men looked at the prospect of war in Europe at or around 1914. Thinking it would be a grand adventure like in a Jules Verne novel or a children's cartoon show. In their defense, war did not become the industrialized lunacy that World War I would come to be known for, and they were young, inexperienced, and wanting to prove themselves.

The last big war before ww1 was Napoleon wars. So there was also a long peace in Europe where people sort of forgotten what war does and is.

Said it already, this could end up as the zoomer great war, where they all cheered it on and then artillery shells started falling.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Recently talked with a young college grad about this war, and some basic WWII history. Nice fellow, but didn't know what Operation OVERLORD was, or what year we nuked Japan. Bought him a copy of Bloodlands and the first volume of the GULAG Archipelago. The young man appreciated the books, said he was reading Bloodlands. Bought myself a copy of Babi Yar. Re-read it, first read it over 50 years ago. Told the young man I would loan him that book after he read the other two books.

Sometimes I shudder inside when I realize just how little history is being taught in schools these days. "Those who don't learn their history will live to repeat it."

Ah yes, history in America aka lack thereof. I asked my boy if he knew who the first man in space was and he replied John Glenn. First man on the moon but Yuri Gagarin was first in space.

Boy was in the Civil Air Patrol too. Wernher von Braun? Of course anyone into model rocketry knows who he is, but Operation Paperclip or von Braun's works at Peenemünde weren't mentioned in the course book.

 

[Mr Bunny]

History is just a pop culture reference.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Sometimes I shudder inside when I realize just how little history is being taught in schools these days. "Those who don't learn their history will live to repeat it."

Hazards of priorities and quantity of material. It's difficult to cover everything in depth that really ought to be covered. So schools tend to focus on giving a very broad over view of world history, and go more in depth about their own country's history. Leaving regions of the world that their country didn't interact much with only lightly covered. While covering just a country's own history can mean either sticking to a really strict schedule that might leave some people behind or sacrifice some depth, or running out of time to cover more modern events. That's not even getting into the way the writers of school history books will try to gloss over the more embarrassing or gory details.

So I don't think the amount of time spent on teaching history in schools has changed much in decades. It just tends to be increasingly poorly and narrowly focused.