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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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If Russia even thinks about seriously using nuclear weapons, they get glassed from all directions. Putin's got nothing to fall back on that won't cause WWIII. And his generals aren't going to risk annihilation because of some damn foolish war in The Ukraine.
I understand that, I mentioned that why most authoritarians won't use nuclear weapons previously a few pages back, the exception is if you push them too hard into a corner. IE: The cat (Nato/Ukraine) pushing the rat (Russia) into a corner, causing it to strike out. If WWIII were to start all bets would be off as well. I'd quote myself but I'm a little lazy atm.
He can't use that nuke unless he wants to get nuked himself. And again, Russia's buttons have already been pushed by the sanctions; in fact, they're more hurtful than a nuke blowing up a Russian city. They sent the country back to the Dark Ages with what they did with the sanctions.

But Zelensky actually offered Putin an out. He offered Putin two things: Ukraine doesn't join NATO, and the eastern breakaway states go do their own thing. That's mighty generous. If it were me, I'd never agree to those things, but Putin could have taken that deal, gone back home, and declared victory, knowing that Ukraine will not become a NATO country, and its eastern breakaway provinces are now Russian. Except Putin didn't take that escape route and is continuing the war because he believes his own lies about Ukraine being Russian territory.

It's hard not to poke the bear when the bear insists on shitting on your house and mauling your family members to death. So of course, Zelensky would grandstand. One of two things will happen: either his forces hold off the Russians and the Russians collapse, or the Russians fire the nukes, the west fires theirs, and the world ends anyways.

I don't disagree, see above. Again, Putin in this situation is like a kid telling a lie, you offer him an out and he doesn't take it and screws himself. I understand that it's always fun to poke at the wounds of kids (or adults) in standard social conflicts who do dumb shit like that. The difference is this is a more major conflict.

I'm not saying Putin isn't behaving like an idiot, or erratically. That's been proven in this conflict, however, the erratic behavior part is the issue. Then you sprinkle everything else done to Russia during and post-conflict (What's going to happen), and then push an authoritarian nutjob in embarrassing ways he's going to consider an extreme option. Think about the last time you were in a serious conflict, I'm sure at one point you thought of an extreme action or option to take, but didn't. That's because you weren't pushed hard enough and the conflict really wasn't that serious or grave, now amplify that by about 1000X with what's happening and going to happen to Russia after this conflict. That's where the risk assessment comes in.
 
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I understand that, I mentioned that why most authoritarians won't use nuclear weapons previously a few pages back, the exception is if you push them too hard into a corner. IE: The cat (Nato/Ukraine) pushing the rat (Russia) into a corner, causing it to strike out. If WWIII were to start all bets would be off as well. I'd quote myself but I'm a little lazy atm.


I don't disagree, see above. Again, Putin in this situation is like a kid telling a lie, you offer him an out and he doesn't take it and screws himself. I understand that it's always fun to poke at the wounds of kids (or adults) in standard social conflicts who do dumb shit like that. The difference is this is a more major conflict.

I'm not saying Putin isn't behaving like an idiot, or erratically. That's been proven in this conflict, however, the erratic behavior part is the issue. Then you sprinkle everything else done to Russia during and post-conflict (What's going to happen), and then push an authoritarian nutjob in embarrassing ways he's going to consider an extreme option. Think about the last time you were in a serious conflict, I'm sure at one point you thought of an extreme action or option to take, but didn't. That's because you weren't pushed hard enough and the conflict really wasn't that serious or grave, now amplify that by about 1000X with what's happening and going to happen to Russia after this conflict. That's where the risk assessment comes in.


Putin can't use nukes alone. No head of the state anywhere can. We are all playing to the reasonable assumption that the rest of the Russian elites are more greedy than retarded and want to ultimately save their own asses by eliminating Putin.
 
Putin can't use nukes alone. No head of the state anywhere can. We are all playing to the reasonable assumption that the rest of the Russian elites are more greedy than retarded and want to ultimately save their own asses by eliminating Putin.
Correct me if I'm wrong, someone I think posted a few pages back Putin replaced his inner circle. Now of course even if this is true (hypothetically) they could just commit mutiny if he suggested such an idea, or it could be a potential threat of going along with his action-plan or get "replaced." It's reasonable "die if you do, die if you don't" situation. I'm also pretty sure Putin is well aware with this screw up he's probably facing being assassinated at best. This is also why I think it's kind of a shit situation all around. I fully am aware he can't just go "Nukes now." There is a set of procedures in place to do such a thing, but it becomes a dicey gamble. I don't think anyone part of the procedure wouldn't backstab Putin at this point, but it's also a risk I'd rather not roll the dice for just in case.
 
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We are all playing to the reasonable assumption that the rest of the Russian elites are more greedy than retarded and want to ultimately save their own asses by eliminating Putin.
Unless he spent 20 years creating a system where everything is connected to him and reliant on him...which he did?

Who's there to say that the Cheget isn't 1 button instead of 3 authorization confirmations?
 
Guys, stop being such a panic chickens when it goes into "nuclear war".

Russia didn't have enough supersonics and warheads to end all of the world. They maybye will vaporize few cities on east, few military units in case of full scale nuclear war, but not make Fallout 2 real (TBH even a full scale nuclear war in Cold War period will not cause such damage - look at Hiroshima, Trinity site etc. and take answer how overhyped are warheads). Threads and Day After aren't more scary than Come and see. I'm not scared more than from attack with using phosphorus).

Also Russia is pretty fuckin sure that a nuclear war will mean destruction of them, not of the NATO, nor China (their are slowly but surely changing sides in this mess). They will not press the button in any case, any scenario.
 
The fact the stupid piece of shit unironically said "This is the worst war since WW2" when both Vietnam and Korea happened should prove to every person on this forum that Zelensky is no better than Putin.
Why? Neither of those wars would have any real cultural mindshare in eastern europe. They happened while Ukraine was part of the USSR, so at most they'd be used as propaganda to demonstrate western imperialism, but they wouldn't have the visceral impact that they might have in the US. They're not even that culturally powerful in western Europe.
 

Russian elites planning to overthrow Putin: Ukrainian intelligence​


A group of Russian elites are allegedly conspiring to overthrow Russian President Vladimir Putin and “restore economic ties” with the West, according to Ukrainian intelligence.


“Poisoning, sudden illness, accident – Russia’s elite is considering removing Putin,” declared a Sunday Facebook post from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence for the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.


The ministry claimed that a group of “influential people” has been forming in Russia who want to “remove Putin from power as soon as possible and restore economic ties with the West, which were destroyed by the war in Ukraine.”


The intel alleges that the group has already been eyeing Alexander Bortnikov, the Russian Director of the Federal Security Service and a member of Putin’s inner circle, as a successor to the president.

The Directorate claimed Bortnikov and Putin had a falling out after Putin blamed him for “fatal miscalculations” in the slow-going and costly invasion of Ukraine.


“Bortnikov and his department were responsible for analyzing the mood of the population of Ukraine and the capacity of the Ukrainian army,” the Directorate said.


The directorate said that its intelligence came from Russian sources, who are “considering various options for removing Putin from power,” including a potential assassination.

The leadership change may also “be an attempt to establish cooperation with the Ukrainian authorities,” as the war drags on, the post said.


The Russian economy has been strangled by sanctions imposed by the United States and its NATO allies.


The sanctions have put increasing pressure on Putin, who believed his Ukraine invasion – now in its third week – would be over in a matter of days.


Across the globe, influential Russian oligarchs have had their valuable assets seized by western countries, and many have fled back to the motherland or to friendlier nations.


US Senator Lindsey Graham was rebuked earlier this month after he called for the assassination of Putin from the inside.

“If [Putin] continues to be their leader, then he’s going to make you complicit with war crimes,” Graham said, addressing the Russian people. “You’re a good people, you’ll never have a future, you’ll be isolated from the world, and you’ll live in abject poverty.


“So I’m hoping somebody in Russia will understand that he’s destroying Russia, and you need to take this guy out by any means possible.”


He later tweeted, “Is there a Brutus in Russia? Is there a more successful Colonel Stauffenberg in the Russian military? The only way this ends is for somebody in Russia to take this guy out. You would be doing your country — and the world — a great service.”


Graham was slammed by politicians from both sides of the aisle for the suggestion. White House Press Secretary Jenn Psaki denounced Graham’s inflammatory comments.


“That is not the position of the United States government. And certainly not a statement you’d hear from — come from the mouth of anybody working in this administration,” she said.

Live: Kremlin warns an embargo on Russian oil would ‘hit everyone’​


An embargo on Russian oil imports over Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine would ‘hit everyone’ in Europe, the Kremlin said Monday, as EU foreign ministers met in Brussels. At least six people were killed in an overnight bombing in Kyiv as Ukraine rejected an ultimatum to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol to Russian forces. Many of the city's 400,000 residents remain trapped with little if any food, water and power, and have faced some of the heaviest bombardments since the invasion began on February 24. Follow the latest developments on our live blog.

Kremlin says an embargo on Russian oil in Europe would 'hit everyone'

An embargo on Russian oil imports, pushed for by some European countries over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, would have a direct impact on everyone, the Kremlin said Monday.

As EU foreign ministers met to discuss more sanctions on Moscow, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists that an oil embargo "is a decision that will hit everyone".

EU ministers will discuss sanctions on Russia's energy sector, bloc's foreign policy chief says
EU foreign ministers will discuss slapping more sanctions on Russia, including sanctions on the country's energy and oil sector, the bloc's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Monday.
"The ministers will discuss that," he told reporters ahead of an EU foreign ministers meeting in Brussels, responding to a question on whether measures against Russian oil exports would be talked about.
"From an Irish perspective we are open to that," Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney also said.

Deadly missile strike on central Kyiv shopping centre sounded like a ‘string of strong explosions’

FRANCE 24's James André heard the deadly missile strike that hit a shopping centre in Kyiv's Podil district last night. He reports from Ukraine's capital.




Epic Games to donate Fortnite proceeds to Ukraine relief​


Epic Games will donate its Fortnite proceeds earned from March 20 to April 3 toward humanitarian relief operations for the victims of war-torn Ukraine, the company announced.


The announcement comes ahead of Fortnite’s Chapter 3, season 2 release set to launch on March 20.


The American software developer reported all proceeds made in the two-week span would include “all real-money” purchases in the game itself including Fortnite Crew, in-game cosmetics and V-Bucks card, and battle passes.


Though, Epic stated on their site “using V-Bucks in Fortnite will not be included as those are not real-money purchases.”


Details regarding how fast the funds will be distributed to the various humanitarian groups in Ukraine were addressed. Epic noted they would not wait for the actual funds to come — considering it could take some time.


Epic will log all transactions immediately and send the funds to the groups within days.

Epic Games said the humanitarian aid will be sent to Direct Relief, United Nations Children’s Emergency Fund (UNICEF), United Nations World Food Program (UNWFP) and The UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR).


More organizations are expected to be added in the coming weeks, Epic said.


Microsoft’s Xbox joined Epic in donating their Fortnite proceeds for additional aid to the victims in Ukraine, according to Epic.


Epic Games suspended ties to Russia, though people were still granted access to its games.

Ukraine rejects Putin’s ultimatum to surrender Mariupol​


Ukraine rejected a Russian ultimatum to surrender the besieged southern city of Mariupol Monday, as renewed overnight shelling killed six in the capital Kyiv.


The move came as US President Joe Biden announced a trip to Poland for crisis talks over the Russian invasion.


Ukraine’s Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk dismissed the early morning deadline, saying Moscow should instead allow hundreds of thousands of trapped Mariupol residents to escape.


“We can’t talk about surrendering weapons,” Vereshchuk told the Ukrainska Pravda online newspaper, “we have already informed the Russian side about it.”


The Kremlin’s military command had warned authorities in Mariupol had until “5am tomorrow, that is on March 21” to respond to eight pages of demands, which Ukrainian officials said would amount to a capitulation.


“We call on units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, territorial defence battalions, foreign mercenaries to stop hostilities, lay down their arms” said Russian Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, warning those who did not surrender would face court martial, and worse.


Kyiv’s rejection came as Russian bombs hit targets across the country overnight, killing at least six in Kyiv and allegedly damaging a chemical plant in the north of the country causing an “ammonia leakage”.


Sumy regional governor Dmytro Zhyvytsky said “Russian artillery shelling” had hit the Sumykhimprom fertiliser plant as he warned residents within a 2.5 kilometres (1.5 miles) radius to seek shelter.


In Washington, the White House said Biden — who is due to visit Europe this week to meet leaders from NATO, the G7 and the European Union — would also travel to Poland.


There he is expected to hold talks with President Andrzej Duda to discuss a joint response to the humanitarian crisis that has seen around two million Ukrainians flee to Poland alone.


The humanitarian crisis is perhaps most acute in Mariupol, where for almost a month Russian forces have bombarded and besieged the southern port city trapping an estimated 350,000 people.


The UN has described the humanitarian situation in the city as “extremely dire” with “residents facing a critical and potentially fatal shortage of food, water and medicines”.


Mariupol is a pivotal target in Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine — providing a land bridge between Russian forces in Crimea to the southwest and Russian-controlled territory to the north and east.


A Greek diplomat who remained in the city during some of the bombardment said it would rank alongside history’s most ruinous wartime assaults.


“Mariupol will be included in a list of cities in the world that were completely destroyed by the war, such as Guernica, Stalingrad, Grozny, Aleppo,” Manolis Androulakis said after flying back to Athens.


– ‘Act of terror’ –​


In his latest video address Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky accused Russia of bombarding a Mariupol school sheltering hundreds, calling it an act of “terror that will be remembered even in the next century”.


“Russian forces have come to exterminate us, to kill us,” he said.


It was the latest potentially devastating strike on a shelter for civilians. Last Wednesday, a theatre where authorities said more than 1,000 people had sheltered was hit, with hundreds still presumed missing in the rubble.


Mariupol officials have said occupying forces have forcibly transported around a thousand residents to Russia and stripped them of their Ukrainian passports — a possible war crime.


A group of children stuck in a Mariupol clinic for weeks are among those who have been taken to Russian-controlled territory, a carer and a relative of a clinic worker told AFP.


The 19 children, aged between four and 17 and mostly orphans, had been living in freezing cellars hiding from shelling in harrowing conditions.


– ‘Perhaps in Jerusalem’ –​


Amid the carnage, Zelensky has again suggested he and Putin hold direct talks.


After addressing Israeli lawmakers Zelensky — who is accused by Russia of being a Nazi, but is Jewish — thanked Prime Minister Naftali Bennett for efforts to broker talks, which he suggested could take place in Jerusalem.


“Sooner or later we could start the conversation with Russia. Perhaps in Jerusalem. This is the right place for finding peace. If this is possible,” Zelensky said.


Authorities in Turkey, where Russian and Ukrainian representatives have been negotiating, said the two sides were close to a deal to stop the fighting.


But the Ukrainian leader appeared to draw some red lines.


“You cannot just demand from Ukraine to recognise some territories as independent republics,” he told CNN. “We have to come up with a model where Ukraine will not lose its sovereignty.”


– Hypersonic missiles –​


As the war has ground on, Russian forces — stymied by unexpectedly fierce Ukrainian resistance, and reportedly facing shortages of weapons and supplies — have made increasing use of long-range missiles.


Russia’s defence ministry said Sunday that Moscow had again fired its newest Kinzhal (Dagger) hypersonic missile, destroying a fuel depot in the southern Mykolaiv region.


A day earlier, Russia said it had used the sophisticated weapon to destroy an arms depot near Ukraine’s border with Romania.


The Pentagon, however, played down the claim.


Humanitarian conditions continued to deteriorate in the mostly Russian-speaking south and east, where Russian forces have been pressing their advance, as well as in the north around Kyiv.


Aid agencies are struggling to reach people trapped in besieged cities.


Around 10 million Ukrainians have fled their homes, roughly one-third going abroad, the UN refugee agency said.


They are fleeing fighting that, according to Zelensky, has left around 14,000 Russian servicemen dead, a number that “will only continue to rise”.


Russia has provided no death toll since early March, when it said nearly 500 servicemen had been killed. Ukrainian officials said on March 12 that some 1,300 Ukrainian troops had died.


Ukraine has not been providing a civilian toll, except for children, saying at least 115 have now perished.


– Lasting economic effects –​


Russia’s war has sparked an unprecedented wave of Western sanctions against Putin, his entourage and Russian companies.


France said Sunday it had seized 850 million euros ($920 million) of Russian oligarchs’ assets on its soil.


The war has sparked turmoil for an already vulnerable world economy. Russia is a major exporter of oil, gas and commodities, while Ukraine is a major supplier of wheat.


Commodity prices have rocketed, further fuelling high inflation, the chief economist with the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development told AFP.


“Even if the war stopped today, the consequences of this conflict would be felt for months to come,” Beata Javorcik said.

Ukrainians told to shelter after ‘leak’ at ammonia plant​


Residents of the northern Ukrainian town of Novoselytsya should seek shelter after an ammonia leak at a nearby chemical factory, an official said Monday, as intense fighting with Russian forces in the area continues.


Sumy regional governor Dmytro Zhyvytsky said there had been an “ammonia leakage” at the Sumykhimprom facility, affecting an area within 2.5 kilometres (1.5 miles) of the plant, which produces fertilisers.


The extent and cause of the incident was not immediately clear, but residents were told to seek refuge in basements or on lower levels of buildings to avoid exposure.


“Ammonia is lighter than air, therefore shelters, basements and lower floors should be used for protection,” Zhyvytsky said in a Telegram message.


He added that emergency crews were at the scene and prevailing winds meant the nearby city of Sumy — with a pre-war population of around 250,000 — was not under immediate threat.


According to Sumykhimprom’s website the facility produces a range of chemical fertilisers.


Sumy, about 350 kilometres (220 miles) east of Kyiv, has experienced weeks of heavy fighting.


In recent days the Russian government has intensified propaganda and disinformation efforts alleging Ukraine is preparing to use improvised chemical weapons and has been developing a clandestine WMD programme.


The Russian Ministry of Defence claimed late Sunday that “nationalists” had “mined” ammonia and chlorine storage facilities at Sumykhimprom “with the aim of mass poisoning of residents of the Sumy region, in case of entry into the city of units of the Russian Armed Forces”.


Russia has repeatedly denied helping Syria use chemical weapons in multiple attacks against its own citizens during the country’s 11-year-old civil war.


Moscow has also denied using chemical weapons against Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny as well as ex Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

 
I'm not sure it it's particularly productive to release information about the possible coup, if anything it would be a warning for Putin to be more careful. Unless it's a psy-op aimed to take advantage of his paranoia, leading to self-sabotage.

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Deadly missile strike on central Kyiv shopping centre sounded like a ‘string of strong explosions’

I've seen somewhere that it was some sort of smart missile that splits into multiple explosive projectiles.
 
I'm not sure it it's particularly productive to release information about the possible coup, if anything it would be a warning for Putin to be more careful. Unless it's a psy-op aimed to take advantage of his paranoia, leading to self-sabotage.
It's a propganda piece, just like the one the west released at the start of the month. Like you say, if its true, then releasing this info is retarded.
I've seen somewhere that it was some sort of smart missile that splits into multiple explosive projectiles.
If you can find that info post it here. Seems interesting.
 
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New update just dropped.
Old post for comparison.
Another plane, 6 MLRS, few hundred more KiA, 22 tanks, 3 helis, another SPAA, and 48 APCS are the major losses.
And from the Brit MoD:
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If the Ukrainians are able to repulse Russian offenses now instead of merely hold them at bay, things are getting really, really bad for Russia. For those not familiar with military terms, that means the Russians were forced to withdraw from the immediate battlefield as a result of their losses, no longer possessing forces capable of resisting a rapid counter-offensive by the remaining defenders.
 
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Similar theories came up with Anderson Cooper a few years back as well as with Julian Assange that they were fake in certain videos. There were odd glitches that came up with things like a collar seeming to blend into a shirt as a new collar appeared over it. Caused many to imagine that they were being simulated with computers like modern deepfakes so maybe the real Assange was already dead or whatever.

Best conclusion people came to was it was an effect of compression from using digital cameras.

Zelensky may very well be using a green screen, but there is a history of people coming up with theories that turned out wrong due to reading too much into the digital videos' glitches or quirks.
 
Zelensky may very well be using a green screen
I think he probably is, but not because he's in Poland or whatever (haven't seen any evidence to suggest it) but more for security reasons.
Similar theories came up with Anderson Cooper a few years back as well as with Julian Assange that they were fake in certain videos. There were odd glitches that came up with things like a collar seeming to blend into a shirt as a new collar appeared over it. Caused many to imagine that they were being simulated with computers like modern deepfakes so maybe the real Assange was already dead or whatever.

Best conclusion people came to was it was an effect of compression from using digital cameras.
Didn't something like this also allegedly happen to Trump? IIRC media had once accused him of greenscreening one of his speeches.

Similar theories came up with Anderson Cooper a few years back as well as with Julian Assange that they were fake in certain videos. There were odd glitches that came up with things like a collar seeming to blend into a shirt as a new collar appeared over it. Caused many to imagine that they were being simulated with computers like modern deepfakes so maybe the real Assange was already dead or whatever.
I think the issues here are different, that I am not sure can be explained by compression. I am not an expert, though, so I may just not know
 
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