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He's not wrong, besides the she's racist for using the N-word.
Decides to private his account.
Decides to private his account.
Plagued /vt/ and related vtuber lunacy - Touhou brony console wars
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Zentreya, who is a popular Vshojo Vtuber has protected her Twitter over harassment of playing Elden Ring.
What she calls "harassment."
What she calls "harassment."
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French BPD arthoe vtuber Saruei has come under fire for being a French BPD arthoe again.
/ https://archive.ph/UU0LT
Apparently she hosted a "draw me for maybe $5000" art contest, and instead of silently ignoring bad submissions she and her tranny discord mod disqualified people for "tracing" via DMs, and then publicly tweeted how a lot of people were disqualified for tracing, but also that she didn't accuse anyone of tracing because she didn't name any names.
Ignoring the inherent contradiction, it wouldn't be real anyway because the DQ'd artist drew the entire thing on stream.
Saruei has also blocked everyone asking to provide proof that the drawing was traced, including some other big twitch art vtuber.
This is also being linked to another incident where someone offered to be her clipper and she responds with "your credentials are too long" followed by "I want to underpay a simp to do this for me"
https://twitter.com/tarominti/status/1503865087769333761 / https://archive.ph/O4PEt
This is also not the first time Saurei has been in drama, because there was also that time she stiffed a vtuber model rigger for not following her rework demands fast enough (I've seen that get posted in the main KF thread before), the time she threw a friend under the bus over a Japan trip (also documented), and all the other times she throws shitfits over complete nonsense.
/vt/ranny threads:
Drinking game: spot the weirdly defensive replies and guess where they're from
Vshojo members are also getting in on this slapfight because they also have beef with the frog:
Bonus: her tranny janny is a creeper
Her contest rules
Clipper hunt
/ https://archive.ph/UU0LT
Apparently she hosted a "draw me for maybe $5000" art contest, and instead of silently ignoring bad submissions she and her tranny discord mod disqualified people for "tracing" via DMs, and then publicly tweeted how a lot of people were disqualified for tracing, but also that she didn't accuse anyone of tracing because she didn't name any names.
Ignoring the inherent contradiction, it wouldn't be real anyway because the DQ'd artist drew the entire thing on stream.
Saruei has also blocked everyone asking to provide proof that the drawing was traced, including some other big twitch art vtuber.
This is also being linked to another incident where someone offered to be her clipper and she responds with "your credentials are too long" followed by "I want to underpay a simp to do this for me"
https://twitter.com/tarominti/status/1503865087769333761 / https://archive.ph/O4PEt
This is also not the first time Saurei has been in drama, because there was also that time she stiffed a vtuber model rigger for not following her rework demands fast enough (I've seen that get posted in the main KF thread before), the time she threw a friend under the bus over a Japan trip (also documented), and all the other times she throws shitfits over complete nonsense.
/vt/ranny threads:
Drinking game: spot the weirdly defensive replies and guess where they're from
Vshojo members are also getting in on this slapfight because they also have beef with the frog:
Bonus: her tranny janny is a creeper
Her contest rules
Clipper hunt
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I didn't even know most of the details about this, my understanding beforehand was that someone got pissy because their art wasn't considered for the contest and decided to throw a shitfit on Twitter.
VShojo really didn't need to get involved with this just because they have prior beef with one of the affected parties but they do seem to crave attention more than other western agencies.
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Well Vshojo has always been pretty decentralized when it comes to how talents speak and react outside of their streaming. With the Nux situation those whores went all out on him and it ended up backfiring so badly for them that there is some irreparable damage towards them when it comes to professional behavior.
ReggieRiceFields
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And here I was naïve enough to think that not every vtuber, indie or otherwise, was unstable.
Does Pikamee have any drama? She's literally the only one that I'd be surprised by being a cunt.
Ōtakemaru
kiwifarms.net
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RiverBear
kiwifarms.net
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Only drama she has ever had is her confirming that she's overweight (iirc)
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kiwifarms.net
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More statements on Bunny_Gif and Bahroo came out in the last few days. They are both in full damage control, with Bunny most likely going the route of Momo at this rate.
Susu, Bunny's ex-gf, came out with her statement. Going with other's streams and statements, Bunny would gaslight and isolate Susu socially and cheat on her with OGTexas.
Jenna Meowri, another cosplay thot, who seems to be the person Bunny hates the most and would get others to attack. She also had a stream where she went over a lot of the statements, exposing Bahroo as prime Simp. Bahroo never had a girlfriend, kissed anyone, and would message her nightly to cry. Bahroo would suddenly block and bad talk Jenna after talking to Bunny. She has a lot more info in her tweets, but most of it just repeating how shit of a person Bunny is.
https://twitter.com/JennaLynnMeowri/status/1504657895996149770
Edit: As her post was DCMAed by someone.
https://archive.ph/LCWBd
ImSinnocent, another cosplay thot, who got gaslit by Bunny and her friends.
https://twitter.com/ImSinnocent/status/1505304792754704388
Vixenshelby, who Bunny tried to groom to attack Jenna and others.
https://twitter.com/vixenshelby/status/1505269343575179268
Tweet Longer: https://archive.md/bMstO
Strippin
A popular streamer got pulled into this, because of Bahroo attacking him and he is friends with Layna.
Tweet Longer: https://archive.md/s57zB
Yo.
I met Layna (@LaynaLazar) a little while back through friends. We've collabbed and hung out, she seems like a cool person.
Layna posted yesterday documenting some longstanding abuse she has endured at the hands of a fellow content creator in the industry, Bunny_Gif. You can find that shit here:
There's plenty of receipts, the post is well constructed and towards the end she mentions Bahroos involvement. Layna mentioned Bunny and Bahroo were close and mentions the following:
'I was so scared of making new friends, and interacting with anyone who had contact with Bahroo or Bunny. It turns out my insecurities were correct, he had reached out to a close friend of mine, claiming I was as bad as Arcadum, claiming I was a pathological liar, saying I DM everyone I collab or interact with. (This was something Bunny did, so this is a clear projection situation)'
That friend was me. The Arcadum shit was really fucking nasty and as someone who was close to that situation both as a player in his games and a friend to a lot of the victims the Arcadum comparison was a fucking WILD statement to make. Obviously I acted on this privately and after eventually speaking with Layna it seemed apparent Bahroo was acting with Bunny or on her behalf to greatly damage my first impression of Layna. Still... not knowing the two sides of the story and not wanting to pry I just put it to bed.
When Layna came forward with receipts I did not provide the screenshot because to be honest I told myself 'I'm not a fan of starting drama or burning bridges. I don't wanna share a private conversation publicly. I'm a 3k Andy with a wife and a kid and I don't need the heat. I don't wanna hurt the people in our shared social circles.' Yadda yadda you get it.
Bottom line is I should've had the balls to share it. Now Layna, Jenna (@JennaLynnMeowri) and others who have come forward with support and/or shared experiences are receiving a lot of grief for naming Bahroo in this situation with a 'lack of proof', so here you go:
I blocked out some personal info. I am sorry for violating someones trust and posting a private conversation publicly it's cringe but what is even more cringe is the predatory behaviour in this industry. You can't ask people to resolve stuff privately when that is literally where the bullying consistently takes place.
Bahroo, I hope you hold yourself accountable for the part you've played if only to set an example to your community and people who look up to you. As of now you've just farmed sympathy on a subathon and let the people who came forward take heat.
Both Jenna and Layna started to receive DCMAs for their tweets.
Bunny released two statements, the first was a Google doc where people saw that it was written by a PR firm.
Google Doc: https://archive.md/48MJ2
After the failure of the Google Doc, she put out a Tweet Longer.
Tweet longer: https://archive.md/lDZNn
Bunny here, officially. Myself.
Before anything else is said, please do not for any reason, in any form, attack the people involved in this. I truly want you all to be respectful towards each and every one of them.
I've been going through many emotions over the last few days regarding everything that has happened and in a hurry, prepared a hasty statement as my primary response to everything. What I didn't realize is that this truly isn't important. What is important is that people have been and are hurting, and I'm the one that caused it. This time, I hope I'm doing the right thing. I hope taking time to go over everything I'm going to say to make sure it's from my heart, was the right move. Not only have I not been the person I have been seen to be, but I have not been the person I wanted to be.
A hundred times over, sincerely, I apologize.
I apologize to you, Layna, for how I behaved in those private messages, for how I went on with business as if I had done no wrong, for taking away the opportunity of others to have a fresh impression of you without the issues I've caused lingering in the back of their head, for the way I acted in DMs and Group chat.
I apologize to you, Jenna. You told me to keep you out of messages and to keep your name out of my mouth, forgive me, but by doing just that I would not be taking responsibility. I apologize for how I opened the opportunity to reconcile and failed to correctly use that opportunity, especially when you expressed interest in doing so. Despite contacting you privately after, I feel the need to address this here to take actual, full responsibility. I again am truly sorry for everything I did in those group chats, the toxicity and the things I said in them, to other creators, online, all behind your back. For everything I have said and done all these years, for the idiotic and spiteful jealousy, for the mean spirited messages and the spiteful messages about you I shared. All of it.
And it wouldn't be right if I didn't apologize to all the women that came forward and shared their truths. When I reflect on what I have done, I truly am embarrassed and ashamed of the person I was. The person I would have continued to be from day to day, moving forward as if I was above it all and had done no wrong. While what I have done was absolutely needless, coming forward about this was needed. I do thank you truly, for being more than fair with how much time and patience I have been given to apologize.
I apologize that I allowed this me, to be the one that existed. I should have been better, and it should have not taken this for me to see that and finally act.
I also apologize to you, the viewer. The reader. The one who uses the content that I provided and content that each and every streamer provided, as forms of escape. As ways to relax, to leave your own personal problems behind, no matter what they may be. I tarnished the community with what I have done. I am not proud.
It's not for me to expect your forgiveness, I am of no impression that a "fix" would be so easy, I can only hope that I have now done the right thing in this and started a process to improve. To become the person that you, from the start, deserved.
After this, I again open my DMs toward each and every one of you to contact me for closure. To let me know and resolve the pain I have caused. Outside of that, I promise with all my heart I will strive to become a better person each day.
- Bunny
Bahroo, an extremely popular twitch streamer, came to the defense of Bunny. Which led to the Strippin doc and having to cancel his Sub-a-thon on twitch and write a tweet longer saying sorry.
Tweet Longer: https://archive.md/97Q5r
There really is no easy way to really talk about this subject easily so I am just going to be breaking down each part and giving my response.
- First off, Layna.
I want to apologize for going behind your back and speak out about you. We have never met. I don't know you. I was given a version of you and just took it at face value without even so much of a single word about it. I can own up to that even if it did take being dragged out to see it.
I should not have used that language especially towards a woman. While myself I am completely desensitized to the word and use it as a term gender neutral in spirit that didnt it any less hurtful or insensitive.
I am genuinely sorry and will do my best to talk to others with a bit more care.
- To Jenna & Susu
You are correct, you and I have had nothing but nice conversations until I randomly blocked you. I did the same to you as I did for Layna. I took the stories I got at face value and just believed it. You deserve better treatment, period.
- To Sam
I am sorry for getting you involved in this. I saw that when you collabed with layna I felt like I should DM you because I only took the first version. I even went so far as to compare it to female arcadum. Which I will admit, no person deserves to be compared to that vile, flat out.
I acted on my own version I had in my head and talked to you privately. I should not have even gone to you when really all I needed to do was just follow her and ask her myself.
I consider you a very good friend. It hurt when I saw your post about me but really it needed to be done as you were right. I was very much out of control and just acting on instinct and not taking a moment to really second guess my behavior
Thank you for being the bigger man I was too scared to be.
To my community
. I have a large platform and today I really had to have a conversation with myself that I can also influence them wrongly at others. Layna got a variety of hate from me because I acted hostile to her publicly without there being any prior conversation to my community. about her. This instantly lead to hostility with her from my pandas. I apologize for not realizing this sooner.
I will do my best that I can to actually learn from this experience. Which will bring me to my next point. My Sub-a-thon. I ended my stream shortly after Strippin's post. I have been running it for nearly 19 days now and it was extremely unprofessional for me to have been live during this and I only find it fair that all of the revenue generated during the public involvement of this is equally distributed to those I affected with my actions.
If ANY person who supported my sub-a-thon during these 19 days be it donations, bits or gifted subs, I offer a full refund to no questions asked. (Send an e-mail to the one in my bio, that actually does go to me and not some PR person)
- End
I still plan on streaming like usual. Its my routine at this point in life. I want to actually just be a nicer person to people. I realize I am very cold in private and I need to fix that. I hope we can all move forward from this, and I will hold myself accountable for my actions.
Susu, Bunny's ex-gf, came out with her statement. Going with other's streams and statements, Bunny would gaslight and isolate Susu socially and cheat on her with OGTexas.
Jenna Meowri, another cosplay thot, who seems to be the person Bunny hates the most and would get others to attack. She also had a stream where she went over a lot of the statements, exposing Bahroo as prime Simp. Bahroo never had a girlfriend, kissed anyone, and would message her nightly to cry. Bahroo would suddenly block and bad talk Jenna after talking to Bunny. She has a lot more info in her tweets, but most of it just repeating how shit of a person Bunny is.
https://twitter.com/JennaLynnMeowri/status/1504657895996149770
Edit: As her post was DCMAed by someone.
https://archive.ph/LCWBd
ImSinnocent, another cosplay thot, who got gaslit by Bunny and her friends.
https://twitter.com/ImSinnocent/status/1505304792754704388
Vixenshelby, who Bunny tried to groom to attack Jenna and others.
https://twitter.com/vixenshelby/status/1505269343575179268
Tweet Longer: https://archive.md/bMstO
I want to talk about some of the incidents I had with Bunny Ayumi during my friendship with her. For now I only want to focus on aspects of the Texas trip I took with my family in October of 2019 and her attempts to groom me into "being better than" Jenna Meowri.
So we were thinking of moving to Texas to be closer to my friends. Bunny and OG were pushing me really hard to move down there, so we went to visit and so we could go to some house viewings and hopefully do some work. Drove clear to Texas from Oregon with my younger brother and my partner. During the entirety of the trip she would not quit obsessing over a couple other cosplay girls (Jenna Meowri in particular), stalking anything and everything she could across their social media, lolcow, 4chan.
She and OG were also very physically and verbally inappropriate towards my partner and myself. They would talk about his dick a lot (mind you he just met these people) and made a card for his birthday while we were there about his penis. She also laid her body across my partner without asking (inserting herself in a moment she wasn't a part of) and laid her head on his crotch. He had just met her and was afraid to say anything even though he felt extremely uncomfortable. He had to suggest watching a movie so he could move. Bunny would always be touching me, my butt or my breasts for no reason. I tried not to think too much about it but in hindsight she was just being inappropriate and seeing what she could get away with.
Attempts were made to also isolate Su during this visit. Was telling the boys not to interact with Su because she hates men, and I’d tell them that how Bunny was describing her was not correct and Su would come over and it would be completely fine. Didn’t want to include her in outings because “Su will bring down the mood” or have one excuse or another. She’d claim Su was trying to sabotage her. Would talk to her like Su was being overdramatic for having an emotional response or that Su’s needs were too much. That Su needed too much attention. I only got to have one on one time with her a couple times throughout the week + long trip without Bunny needing to basically chaperone our interactions. Would talk and say untrue things about Su, painting her to be a monster, but was contradicted every time she’d be able to hang out with us. This deeply confused my family by how Bunny was describing Su and were concerned at the fact it never lined up. It concerned me, because I had faith that Bunny wasn’t lying about Su and the Texas trip put everything in perspective. Everything.
Bunny was also saying really mean and unkind things about other creators and even dragging girls she was appearing friendly with. Saying cruel things about people she didn't even know that were just enjoying cosplay as a hobby. She'd say "if you're not doing it for money why are they even doing it at all". That they should only do characters they look like. I tried to tell her, as her friend, about that and several other things, how it was a mean and unfair thing to say and do. That she shouldn't be saying nasty things about people enjoying a hobby and not to be doing it just for money or numbers. That she shouldn't mind other people's business, let people be happy and that how she was being isn't healthy. Told her she needed to leave people alone about getting any kind of work done on their bodies.
Some other personal events transpired during that visit that I can't go into detail but it all resulted in a massive confrontation a couple days later. She'd refuse to listen to anything I had to say and disliked that I wouldn't let up and concede to her because at that point, I had had enough. Everything before then was fine too and then all of a sudden things weren't okay. She made it seem afterwards when it all calmed down that we were fine, we were still friends. Bunny behaved anything but that, so my brother and I (my partner had flown home due to us being convinced into staying a few extra days for a photoshoot and a work opportunity, which neither happened) had to basically flee from Texas back to Oregon right after having a very emotional confrontation.
After coming back, I couldn't stream, I couldn't post. So many people were bringing her up in my chat, on my posts and I couldn't say anything about what transpired. I was already so emotionally and mentally drained and traumatized from the things I saw and heard. How I was treated. Then to find out she was telling lies that I was attacking her. That I was telling lies about her and Su, to others in the community, to people that I was friendly with (that had no idea was going on and were approached by Bunny) and telling Su that I was talking badly about her behind her back. I couldn’t talk to almost anybody. I didn’t know who she already talked about me with, I felt I had no one to turn to and didn’t know who I could trust to reach out to. I became alone for a long while.
I had to give up streaming and almost decided to quit my online work altogether.
The other part I'd like to discuss is Bunny trying to groom me and "steal Jenna's thunder". Constantly she would advise me to do what Jenna does in an attempt to "best her". Would tell me that she was copying us, copying her. Throughout the whole Texas trip Jenna was brought up by Bunny. She'd lurk through forums about her, body shame her and claim that Jenna had received botched cosmetic surgery. That Jenna was buying followers, that she was doing inappropriate things to get verified on platforms. Would compare my and Jenna's bodies trying to make it seem like I was better than her somehow. When we are completely different people, with entirely different body types. Bunny would see a post of Jenna's that would be doing good and tell me I needed to dress like how she was in the post. Persistently she'd criticize almost everything about her, sharing posts to chats to say one bad thing or another. While on the other hand interacting with Jenna like there was no issue, friendly even. Bunny also obsessed over who Jenna was friends with, who she interacted with, questioning why anyone would want to be associated with Jenna or harp on the fact that she was following someone Bunny didn't like. The obsession with Jenna wasn't just an instance, this was a long standing fixation of hers and she wanted me to be just like Jenna.
She tried to tell me how I should be dressing, posting, editing my photos, interacting with bigger accounts and who I could interact with and shouldn't interact with. Whenever I'd tell her I wouldn't do these things much of the time I was always met with confusion and ire.
This is just a fraction of what all went on, not including incidents from previous cons, group chats, stream groups and/or calls.
So we were thinking of moving to Texas to be closer to my friends. Bunny and OG were pushing me really hard to move down there, so we went to visit and so we could go to some house viewings and hopefully do some work. Drove clear to Texas from Oregon with my younger brother and my partner. During the entirety of the trip she would not quit obsessing over a couple other cosplay girls (Jenna Meowri in particular), stalking anything and everything she could across their social media, lolcow, 4chan.
She and OG were also very physically and verbally inappropriate towards my partner and myself. They would talk about his dick a lot (mind you he just met these people) and made a card for his birthday while we were there about his penis. She also laid her body across my partner without asking (inserting herself in a moment she wasn't a part of) and laid her head on his crotch. He had just met her and was afraid to say anything even though he felt extremely uncomfortable. He had to suggest watching a movie so he could move. Bunny would always be touching me, my butt or my breasts for no reason. I tried not to think too much about it but in hindsight she was just being inappropriate and seeing what she could get away with.
Attempts were made to also isolate Su during this visit. Was telling the boys not to interact with Su because she hates men, and I’d tell them that how Bunny was describing her was not correct and Su would come over and it would be completely fine. Didn’t want to include her in outings because “Su will bring down the mood” or have one excuse or another. She’d claim Su was trying to sabotage her. Would talk to her like Su was being overdramatic for having an emotional response or that Su’s needs were too much. That Su needed too much attention. I only got to have one on one time with her a couple times throughout the week + long trip without Bunny needing to basically chaperone our interactions. Would talk and say untrue things about Su, painting her to be a monster, but was contradicted every time she’d be able to hang out with us. This deeply confused my family by how Bunny was describing Su and were concerned at the fact it never lined up. It concerned me, because I had faith that Bunny wasn’t lying about Su and the Texas trip put everything in perspective. Everything.
Bunny was also saying really mean and unkind things about other creators and even dragging girls she was appearing friendly with. Saying cruel things about people she didn't even know that were just enjoying cosplay as a hobby. She'd say "if you're not doing it for money why are they even doing it at all". That they should only do characters they look like. I tried to tell her, as her friend, about that and several other things, how it was a mean and unfair thing to say and do. That she shouldn't be saying nasty things about people enjoying a hobby and not to be doing it just for money or numbers. That she shouldn't mind other people's business, let people be happy and that how she was being isn't healthy. Told her she needed to leave people alone about getting any kind of work done on their bodies.
Some other personal events transpired during that visit that I can't go into detail but it all resulted in a massive confrontation a couple days later. She'd refuse to listen to anything I had to say and disliked that I wouldn't let up and concede to her because at that point, I had had enough. Everything before then was fine too and then all of a sudden things weren't okay. She made it seem afterwards when it all calmed down that we were fine, we were still friends. Bunny behaved anything but that, so my brother and I (my partner had flown home due to us being convinced into staying a few extra days for a photoshoot and a work opportunity, which neither happened) had to basically flee from Texas back to Oregon right after having a very emotional confrontation.
After coming back, I couldn't stream, I couldn't post. So many people were bringing her up in my chat, on my posts and I couldn't say anything about what transpired. I was already so emotionally and mentally drained and traumatized from the things I saw and heard. How I was treated. Then to find out she was telling lies that I was attacking her. That I was telling lies about her and Su, to others in the community, to people that I was friendly with (that had no idea was going on and were approached by Bunny) and telling Su that I was talking badly about her behind her back. I couldn’t talk to almost anybody. I didn’t know who she already talked about me with, I felt I had no one to turn to and didn’t know who I could trust to reach out to. I became alone for a long while.
I had to give up streaming and almost decided to quit my online work altogether.
The other part I'd like to discuss is Bunny trying to groom me and "steal Jenna's thunder". Constantly she would advise me to do what Jenna does in an attempt to "best her". Would tell me that she was copying us, copying her. Throughout the whole Texas trip Jenna was brought up by Bunny. She'd lurk through forums about her, body shame her and claim that Jenna had received botched cosmetic surgery. That Jenna was buying followers, that she was doing inappropriate things to get verified on platforms. Would compare my and Jenna's bodies trying to make it seem like I was better than her somehow. When we are completely different people, with entirely different body types. Bunny would see a post of Jenna's that would be doing good and tell me I needed to dress like how she was in the post. Persistently she'd criticize almost everything about her, sharing posts to chats to say one bad thing or another. While on the other hand interacting with Jenna like there was no issue, friendly even. Bunny also obsessed over who Jenna was friends with, who she interacted with, questioning why anyone would want to be associated with Jenna or harp on the fact that she was following someone Bunny didn't like. The obsession with Jenna wasn't just an instance, this was a long standing fixation of hers and she wanted me to be just like Jenna.
She tried to tell me how I should be dressing, posting, editing my photos, interacting with bigger accounts and who I could interact with and shouldn't interact with. Whenever I'd tell her I wouldn't do these things much of the time I was always met with confusion and ire.
This is just a fraction of what all went on, not including incidents from previous cons, group chats, stream groups and/or calls.
Strippin
A popular streamer got pulled into this, because of Bahroo attacking him and he is friends with Layna.
Tweet Longer: https://archive.md/s57zB
Re: Layna and Bunny
Yo.
I met Layna (@LaynaLazar) a little while back through friends. We've collabbed and hung out, she seems like a cool person.
Layna posted yesterday documenting some longstanding abuse she has endured at the hands of a fellow content creator in the industry, Bunny_Gif. You can find that shit here:
There's plenty of receipts, the post is well constructed and towards the end she mentions Bahroos involvement. Layna mentioned Bunny and Bahroo were close and mentions the following:
'I was so scared of making new friends, and interacting with anyone who had contact with Bahroo or Bunny. It turns out my insecurities were correct, he had reached out to a close friend of mine, claiming I was as bad as Arcadum, claiming I was a pathological liar, saying I DM everyone I collab or interact with. (This was something Bunny did, so this is a clear projection situation)'
That friend was me. The Arcadum shit was really fucking nasty and as someone who was close to that situation both as a player in his games and a friend to a lot of the victims the Arcadum comparison was a fucking WILD statement to make. Obviously I acted on this privately and after eventually speaking with Layna it seemed apparent Bahroo was acting with Bunny or on her behalf to greatly damage my first impression of Layna. Still... not knowing the two sides of the story and not wanting to pry I just put it to bed.
When Layna came forward with receipts I did not provide the screenshot because to be honest I told myself 'I'm not a fan of starting drama or burning bridges. I don't wanna share a private conversation publicly. I'm a 3k Andy with a wife and a kid and I don't need the heat. I don't wanna hurt the people in our shared social circles.' Yadda yadda you get it.
Bottom line is I should've had the balls to share it. Now Layna, Jenna (@JennaLynnMeowri) and others who have come forward with support and/or shared experiences are receiving a lot of grief for naming Bahroo in this situation with a 'lack of proof', so here you go:
I blocked out some personal info. I am sorry for violating someones trust and posting a private conversation publicly it's cringe but what is even more cringe is the predatory behaviour in this industry. You can't ask people to resolve stuff privately when that is literally where the bullying consistently takes place.
Bahroo, I hope you hold yourself accountable for the part you've played if only to set an example to your community and people who look up to you. As of now you've just farmed sympathy on a subathon and let the people who came forward take heat.
Both Jenna and Layna started to receive DCMAs for their tweets.
Bunny released two statements, the first was a Google doc where people saw that it was written by a PR firm.
Google Doc: https://archive.md/48MJ2
After the failure of the Google Doc, she put out a Tweet Longer.
Tweet longer: https://archive.md/lDZNn
I'm sorry
Bunny here, officially. Myself.
Before anything else is said, please do not for any reason, in any form, attack the people involved in this. I truly want you all to be respectful towards each and every one of them.
I've been going through many emotions over the last few days regarding everything that has happened and in a hurry, prepared a hasty statement as my primary response to everything. What I didn't realize is that this truly isn't important. What is important is that people have been and are hurting, and I'm the one that caused it. This time, I hope I'm doing the right thing. I hope taking time to go over everything I'm going to say to make sure it's from my heart, was the right move. Not only have I not been the person I have been seen to be, but I have not been the person I wanted to be.
A hundred times over, sincerely, I apologize.
I apologize to you, Layna, for how I behaved in those private messages, for how I went on with business as if I had done no wrong, for taking away the opportunity of others to have a fresh impression of you without the issues I've caused lingering in the back of their head, for the way I acted in DMs and Group chat.
I apologize to you, Jenna. You told me to keep you out of messages and to keep your name out of my mouth, forgive me, but by doing just that I would not be taking responsibility. I apologize for how I opened the opportunity to reconcile and failed to correctly use that opportunity, especially when you expressed interest in doing so. Despite contacting you privately after, I feel the need to address this here to take actual, full responsibility. I again am truly sorry for everything I did in those group chats, the toxicity and the things I said in them, to other creators, online, all behind your back. For everything I have said and done all these years, for the idiotic and spiteful jealousy, for the mean spirited messages and the spiteful messages about you I shared. All of it.
And it wouldn't be right if I didn't apologize to all the women that came forward and shared their truths. When I reflect on what I have done, I truly am embarrassed and ashamed of the person I was. The person I would have continued to be from day to day, moving forward as if I was above it all and had done no wrong. While what I have done was absolutely needless, coming forward about this was needed. I do thank you truly, for being more than fair with how much time and patience I have been given to apologize.
I apologize that I allowed this me, to be the one that existed. I should have been better, and it should have not taken this for me to see that and finally act.
I also apologize to you, the viewer. The reader. The one who uses the content that I provided and content that each and every streamer provided, as forms of escape. As ways to relax, to leave your own personal problems behind, no matter what they may be. I tarnished the community with what I have done. I am not proud.
It's not for me to expect your forgiveness, I am of no impression that a "fix" would be so easy, I can only hope that I have now done the right thing in this and started a process to improve. To become the person that you, from the start, deserved.
After this, I again open my DMs toward each and every one of you to contact me for closure. To let me know and resolve the pain I have caused. Outside of that, I promise with all my heart I will strive to become a better person each day.
- Bunny
Bahroo, an extremely popular twitch streamer, came to the defense of Bunny. Which led to the Strippin doc and having to cancel his Sub-a-thon on twitch and write a tweet longer saying sorry.
Tweet Longer: https://archive.md/97Q5r
Regarding Layna, Strippin, and my Community.
There really is no easy way to really talk about this subject easily so I am just going to be breaking down each part and giving my response.
- First off, Layna.
I want to apologize for going behind your back and speak out about you. We have never met. I don't know you. I was given a version of you and just took it at face value without even so much of a single word about it. I can own up to that even if it did take being dragged out to see it.
I should not have used that language especially towards a woman. While myself I am completely desensitized to the word and use it as a term gender neutral in spirit that didnt it any less hurtful or insensitive.
I am genuinely sorry and will do my best to talk to others with a bit more care.
- To Jenna & Susu
You are correct, you and I have had nothing but nice conversations until I randomly blocked you. I did the same to you as I did for Layna. I took the stories I got at face value and just believed it. You deserve better treatment, period.
- To Sam
I am sorry for getting you involved in this. I saw that when you collabed with layna I felt like I should DM you because I only took the first version. I even went so far as to compare it to female arcadum. Which I will admit, no person deserves to be compared to that vile, flat out.
I acted on my own version I had in my head and talked to you privately. I should not have even gone to you when really all I needed to do was just follow her and ask her myself.
I consider you a very good friend. It hurt when I saw your post about me but really it needed to be done as you were right. I was very much out of control and just acting on instinct and not taking a moment to really second guess my behavior
Thank you for being the bigger man I was too scared to be.
To my community
. I have a large platform and today I really had to have a conversation with myself that I can also influence them wrongly at others. Layna got a variety of hate from me because I acted hostile to her publicly without there being any prior conversation to my community. about her. This instantly lead to hostility with her from my pandas. I apologize for not realizing this sooner.
I will do my best that I can to actually learn from this experience. Which will bring me to my next point. My Sub-a-thon. I ended my stream shortly after Strippin's post. I have been running it for nearly 19 days now and it was extremely unprofessional for me to have been live during this and I only find it fair that all of the revenue generated during the public involvement of this is equally distributed to those I affected with my actions.
If ANY person who supported my sub-a-thon during these 19 days be it donations, bits or gifted subs, I offer a full refund to no questions asked. (Send an e-mail to the one in my bio, that actually does go to me and not some PR person)
- End
I still plan on streaming like usual. Its my routine at this point in life. I want to actually just be a nicer person to people. I realize I am very cold in private and I need to fix that. I hope we can all move forward from this, and I will hold myself accountable for my actions.
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Women are so fucking dumb holy shit. All Bunny needed to do was shut up about Sareui and none of this wouldn’t have happened.
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The VTuber Gawr Gura now has a real life size statue named after her popularity, and they’re putting an auction up for it back in Hololive Super Expo 2022.
One user on /vt/ decided to put his money where his mouth is:
One user on /vt/ decided to put his money where his mouth is:
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InterruptDigressRat
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Why would you buy a fucking statue for that amount of money? Just buy those costumes that were shown off and put them on a sex doll.
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Great way to show off you’re not a pedophile by buying a full sized statue of a 3000 year old shark in the body of a 14 year old.
Inside_Ventura
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
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Well, Bunny decided to burn it down with the cosplay thots.
Itemized list of Sinnocent's lies about her and their relationship.
Calls Susu the abuser and real drive behind any toxic/trolling behavior she had at the time., and after their breakup it was for Bunny to escape such a toxic person.
Says that Layna is the one who cut the deal off and worked against her.
https://archive.ph/Ue2eW
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss05gg
Here is just the first two paragraphs for a taste of what the whole thing reads like.
This has gotten out of hand, Layna you have forced my hand. I tried to reach out to you multiple times over the years and you were personal friends with those I asked to help me with getting to have a conversation with you. You have done irreparable harm to myself, my brands, and my friendships. Why would you lie that I didn't reach out? Here is the proof.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900053706245025812/955660900482834502/LaynaProof1.PNG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...2/955700086992683078/ProofofLaynaBlocking.png
You consistently claim the 20k debt as a part of your suffering. However, YOU are the one that canceled the figure in the first place. Per YOUR contract, you took on the financial burden of making the figure. Although we had our differences I STILL wanted to finish this figure and then we could part ways amicably. We never would have talked again. I spent time and shouted out every one of your streams on my account. I rallied my fans to your streams to get excited. Whenever you needed anything for Susu’s figures I was the middleman. You know I paid for Susu’s prints to be shipped overnight to New Zealand. You know the calls we had were I consoled you while you were stressed with Susu’s figure. I helped you. I didn’t have to, I wanted to. The tension was unhealthy. I understand you didn’t want to do a figure because we no longer were friends. This is not good business. I tried to talk to your business partner, he told me he would not be involved in any of your drama despite being a co-owner. You have asked for a public apology from me. I did it knowing all this truth but it still wasn’t good enough for you. We both experienced pain. YOU blocked ME. I could never contact you. When you joined a discord group I was in it you left and left a vague message saying that everyone should watch their backs. I attempted to reach out after this. I need to show the raw truth.
Here is the full time-line of events.
Sinnocent (Date: 2013 - 2016)
I met Sinnocent in the Costume/Cosplay community through a photographer of ours, who did photoshoots for both of us. Through this we became friends and did photo work together.
“I would go as far as waking up in the middle of the night to go over to her house to cook."
- She has come over one time to make me spaghetti, this is an over exaggeration of my reliance on her.
“When we met she had virtually no following and I helped build her socials.”
- This is incorrect. I had a larger following on my Facebook and Deviantart page before we met.
“During our break in 2016, bunny started dating him, hid it from me and then lied about doing so”
- We were two mutually consenting adults and we pursued a relationship after he made it clear that he had no intention of returning to his previous girlfriend.
“ I was terrified of running into her at a convention and ultimately decided to retire from cosplay and give up a 15 year long journey.”
- I was told directly to my face that the reason that she quit was because she wasn’t making enough revenue and she was stagnant.
“Only to find out that she had gone to badmouth me to other creators and spread lies, I’m still hearing about things to this day“
- The only person I told about this was Susu as she asked about my past relationships.
“Bunny spun our story to make herself the victims, reversing the roles to say her boyfriend cheated on her with me. “
- My boyfriend at the time would physically and emotionally abuse me. Without telling me he would go over to Sinnocent, this is why I stopped with all contact with her. However, she was unaware of his abuse towards me during this time.
After finding out, she did help me move out of my apartment.
“She then cheated on him with OGTexas “
- Sinnocent had no knowledge of OG at this time and our friendship at the time. We were not dating at that time. The only person who would have told about OG is Susu.
“ Bunny accused me of what she had done which in turn dissolved a 4 year long relationship and destroyed me as a person. “
- I stated that my boyfriend at the time was cheating on me with her. To which she found out about the abuse and helped me get out of my apartment.
“ I reached out to people only to find out each side got told different stories from her. “
- As stated above, I only ever confided any information regarding Sinnocent to Susu, who was my partner at the time.
“ One of them moved to attempt suicide because of bunny’s actions “
- The individual in question is “Yurockit”/Adella. She was in a bad mental space at the time.
“Bunny does not care who you are, if she thinks she can gain something from you she will attempt to attach to you and bunny will try to drain all beneficial advantages she can from you.”
-This is all conjecture and defamation of character. None of this can be proved and corroborated with others.
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2. Yurockit / Adella: (Date: - 2017)I met Adella in the cosplay/costume community as she worked with the same Photographer.
“ Every detail she described in her detail were absolutely true. [Sinnocent]”
- As stated above, Sinnocent left out many key details in her post.
“Phone calls, messages both outbound and inbound largely consisted of painful confirmations to terminated friendships or newly founded suspicion “
- The only person I discussed Yuki with was Susu, and I only did this in confidence as she was my partner at the time
September 22nd, 2017 - I began to get worn down and tired as I was constantly being used as a trauma dump. I communicated that I was done. I asked her to leave.
September 29th, 2017 - I reached out to Adella’s partner because I wanted to end things on good terms.
October 31st, 2017- They tried to reach out to rekindle the relationship. At this time I was seeking medical help for my depression and anxiety. I wished her the best in the future.
Screenshots of Yurockit:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0armmwwyxt5swrk/AACIViLil-USZZlUo6msHePHa/Adella?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
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Susu
Around late 2015 - early 2016
Susu approached me at a convention in Texas for a photo and I was taken back by having a cute girl approach me. We began to talk online after exchanging socials. We agreed to meet up and it organically evolved into a relationship. This was a consensual open relationship.
I never wanted to bring in a personal relationship but my hand is forced. Without these messages, I could not prove my statements. Susu approached me as a fan of my costume work when I did it as a hobby and we became friends. We decided to meet up out of a convention space and eventually began to date. I looked up to her. I believed her because I owed so much to her. I felt like I was a nobody until she told me what would make me successful. She suggested I do more provocative photos if I wanted to quit my office job and explore this new life. I took the leap and it paid off. It got to my head. I saw how she talked about others and as the fame got to my head I copied her behavior. When we first met I did not have a voice, I did what I was told. As I spent more time with her, I became like her and became a toxic person. In the end, these are MY ACTIONS but I will not go down silent. She initiated the hate of other creators regularly. She would go out of her way to constantly bring up women in the community and body shame them. I followed. I did the same. We both did this. We were both GUILTY of being toxic to each other and those around us. I have the proof that she initiated these conversations. She was the one who brought Jenna to my attention and made threads on lolcow about her. She would regularly call Peachjars retarded. I know this is wrong and I partook in the harassment. These conversations were private as we were intimate partners at the time. I was emotionally abused by Susu for many years. I did not have a voice to speak up against her and when I did I left her. After I quit lewd modeling I left the cosplay community. I wanted to change. I hated who I was and I tried to become a different person. I never thought any of this would come out because it was all private drama so I never addressed it. I see my old self in the girls cheering on bullying on a twitch stream. You have proven that person I was, I’m not that person anymore. I wanted and still want to be better. Susu, you know the truth. You know we were both in a mutually toxic relationship. Neither of us are innocent.
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Vixenshelby/Shelby:I met Vixenshelby when I did lewd modeling work and she did fan-art of me. We networked together and became friends. I invited her to visit Texas. She stayed at my apartment with her husband and brother. We visited the state fair and I helped her take photos at Susu’s apartment.
“She and OG were also very physically and verbally inappropriate towards my partner and myself. They would talk about his dick a lot and made a card while we were there about his penis.”
- The conversations that OG and her husband had were nothing but positive and friendly. We never did a card regarding the man’s penis or made comments about it. Furthermore, OG himself drove her husband to the airport at request of the husband. Afterwards, they had a pleasant conversation via text.
“She also laid her body across my partner and laid her head on his crotch.”
- The only physical contact that I have ever had was a hug and a hi-five. This is false.
“Bunny would always be touching me my butt or my breasts for no reason.”
- We were two consenting adults who playfully touched each other. I never touched her without permission nor did I pester her to do so. She also would grab my breasts a lot.
“Attempts were made to isolate Su during this visit…”
- This statement is false. When we spent time with Su we went to Su’s apartment. Su and I helped with lighting and posing for Shelby’s photoshoot at Su’s apartment.
“..didn’t want to include her in outings because “Su will bring down the mood or have one excuse or another.”
- This is incorrect. We invited her multiple times during the visit. Susu didn’t want to meet two men that she did not know at first.
“I only got to have one on one time with her[Susu] a couple times throughout the week + long trip without bunny needing to basically chaperone our interactions.”
- I never tried to keep anyone apart from each other.
“Bunny was also saying really mean and unkind things about other creators..”
- I will not try to hide my past, I did say things that were toxic and unsavory in a closed environment were it was common to vent.
“If you aren’t doing it for money, why are you even doing it at all.”- This is a flat out lie. I started doing Cosplay as a hobby myself and I love the craft. I would never say this.
“That they should only do characters they look like.”
- This is a statement I do not believe in and have never said. I was in the room when Susu made this statement.
“Some other personal events transpired during that visit that I can’t go into detail but it all resulted in a massive confrontation a couple days later.”
- The details that Shelby doesn’t want to go into is that she inserted herself into trying to help Susu and I mend our relationship. She screamed at me in my kitchen with her husband, her brother and OG present. I was verbally assaulted to the point that I had to run to my bedroom to hide in my own house. All the others present were in shock of Shelby’s outburst, no one including her partner tried to step in and stop this. I called Susu and begged her to come over so she could help calm Shelby down. After this, I asked her to leave. Her husband asked OG to drive him to the airport. Shelby and her brother left in their car.
“My partner had flown home due to us being convinced into staying a few extra days for a photoshoot and work opportunity which neither happened.”
- The photoshoot did happen. I don’t know if the photoset got posted.Also, OG assisted in helping find work opportunities for her husband but the one he found did not come to fruition.
“Then to find out she was telling lies that I was attacking her.”
- During her verbal outbreak she was very aggressive. She flailed her arms in my face and was starting to trigger my PTSD. She didn’t touch me but she charged at me and threw her hands in my face. The only person that I spoke of the my memory was Susu as she came over after to console me.
“Constantly she would advise me to do what Jenna does in an attempt to best her.”
- Shelby approached me and asked me to help with posing and her photo-sets. I agreed because I wanted to do a favor for a friend. I accept that I did make negative comments and own up to the fact I was a toxic person. This wasn’t right - ever. In attempting to hype up a friend I was cruel. I own up to the person I used to be. [apology here]
“ Throughout the whole Texas trip Jenna was brought up she would lurk through forums about her body shame her and claimed Jenna received a botched cosmetic surgery. “
- Jenna was brought up a few times but it was not the main conversation of the trip. I do admit and take responsibility for my cruel remarks regarding her physical appearance. It’s not right and it will never will be right to body shame someone despite your personal feelings. As a woman who is judged daily on my appearance I never should have added to this conversation.
“Persistently she would criticize almost everything about her, sharing post to chats to say one bad thing or another”
- I admit that I was part of this however, Susu was the one constantly bringing it up as well.
“She tried to tell me how I should be dressing, posing, editing my photos, interacting with bigger accounts, who I should interact with and who I shouldn’t. Whenever I told her I wouldn’t do those things they were met with confusion and ire.”
- Shelby approached me asking for advice on how to better accentuate her features. I helped style her and she appeared to be genuinely happy. I also gave her recommendations for separating her SFW and NSFW accounts, which she did. I never told her who not to work with, I only gave her honest advice.
“Previous cons”
August 30th - September 2nd, 2019 -
We only had one confrontation at a convention. PAX West 2019. What started this was that I had walked up to a booth and the person working there made me uncomfortable.. I got upset that neither Shelby or OG stepped in to help me as I was physically uncomfortable. After which, I stormed off and had a dinner by myself.
During the time I was away, Shelby gaslit OG into being more assertive and inserted herself into our relationship. When I got back to the hotel room they were both crying. When I saw this I was confused and we had a civil conversation.
October 13th, 2019 - Shelby, her husband and her brother arrived in Texas. I let me stay at my apartment for the duration of the trip. They were supposed to stay 10 days but they extended the stay to 12.
October 25th, 2019 - A heated despite broke out in my kitchen in which Shelby attacked me verbally. Afterwards, OG took her partner to the airport on good terms. Shelby and her brother left the same day, just a little later as they left by car.
October 26th, 2019 - Evidence of the dispute how it effected the parties involved taken at 2AM as we were not able to sleep.
Screenshots of Vixenshelby:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hp7a31f0twib7b2/AAAJoAbcxYqn_1BifBw3hYvYa?dl=0
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Layna:
November 6th, 2019 -
I reached out to Layna over Twitter DMs to try to communicate. The checkmark shows that it was successfully sent.
Cherry Bombs Dispute
November 9th, 2019 -
link to full cherrybombs chat: https://imgur.com/a/7eNnt0b
After the dispute, Susu and I had this conversation proving my desire to communicate. I expressed my fear of Layna and how others feared me.
Screenshots for during the dispute:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dim1immunethkfm/AABvYuMobZG1XwNefZTjyMsUa?dl=0
November 10th, 2019 -
Susu and I had a conversation after seeing Layna subtweeting. We also discuss Troy and OG's misunderstandings.
Screenshots for the aftermath:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c1awc8lqiikq2dm/AACPu6MsV7TbBvYxQHqXnRxta?dl=0
Troy and OGTEXAS talk
November 11th, 2019 -
Two Days after the Cherry Bomb dispute, Troy admits there are 0 issues.
Screenshots for Troy and OG:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sqhzpbu2ig4fztf/AAB3tiIpCTV32eeKI6wHJuYIa?dl=0
Layna and Susu voicecall
December 5th, 2019 -
Susu has a voice call with Layna. Layna is upset that I supported Troy and Peachmilky on stream.
Screenshots for Layna & Susu voicecall:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/32f1ttuxbb68uyv/AADuD9-_RlOl4QjELG9e6-TOa?dl=0
Bunny and Susu Breakup
January 27th, 2020 -
Susu and I mutually broke up and were on positive terms.
Screenshots of the breakup texts:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0otm3xa0dc0l7r6/AAAMk-bg6POrQiZxxdhshFtBa?dl=0
IHAZTOYS cancels figure
March 31st, 2020
Ihaztoys and I share the cancelation of the figure on social media. Layna subtweets.
texts between Su and I talking about the cancelation of the project:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ij30dbnxef7ici9/AAAsZDyi8JKItGMD_7R2wlsya?dl=0
Silvervale
I began discussion with Silvervale in April 18, 2020 as a friend when I first became a V-tuber.
August 31st, 2020
I confided in Silver that I was afraid of Layna due to the past in a private DM.
May 14, 2021 and onwards
I attempted to reach out with concerns, asking if I did something wrong. There was no response.
screenshots for Silvervale: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pyhs36el3nzihgo/AAD1ftQCsb9RNOZBII6glG-ma?dl=0
April 28th, 2021
I was added to a v-tuber group that Layna joined. Layna left a message that everyone needed to be careful and left. I tried to reach out to the person in charge of the group- letting her know I have no hard feelings towards Layna and wanted to talk.
screenshots of me reaching out
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0l71x76bsd1r8ki/AACQbVKEQcZlfXP_xjHSZgj9a?dl=0
Present day
Susu says I was emotional abusive
Susu and I had a mutually toxic relationship. As you can see by our conversations, this was not healthy. I broke up with Susu so we could become better.
Jenna's Twitch Stream
Jenna streamed the false allegations to Twitch.
I’ve made my apology towards Jenna and I mean it. I should have never body shamed you or done any of the cruel things I did. I apologized both privately and publicly. She made my private apology public and ridiculed it on stream. This is against Twitch TOS. I said I would leave your name out of my mouth due to fear and wanting to stop this hate from spreading to my friends. It did not so I’m sorry but I will break my promise. You dragged everyone who supported me through the mud. You presented all of these allegations as fact and in doing so have done irreparable harm to me as a person and my brand. You didn’t wait to hear my side but laughed at false allegations to thousands of people. I took full responsibility for my actions but it was not good enough for you and you sought only to cause pain and strife for your own amusement. In your chat I saw Layna, who was supposedly looking for a resolution. I saw Susu, who was claimed she was taking time off the internet. I saw the overwhelming support for false allegations and outright slander.
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1431001197
Note that we have the full VOD uploaded should you decide to delete this.
List of all broadcasters and their messages.
-https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...FyIP7TAUmJLdiKkYv8vxt2S7CfI/edit?usp=drivesdk
Note that Susu who was supposed to be off the internet at this time was in the stream, indicating further conversation between the two.
Layna was also in this stream riling up the mob.
Many people were in these chats cheering on the false allegations and pain of my friends. Needless attacking and finding entertainment in pain.
Me and my community have received death threats. I wanted to quit. I didn't want to share my personal life but I am forced to in order to clear my name.
AdmiralBahroo is NOT part of this conversation. He is his own person. Do NOT attach my past to him.
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Extra screenshots, I am not hiding anything:
[Evidence of toxicity / Layna's history with blocking & censoring]
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f06jk1djdrrh89e/AADkOoVN6cI0yMe7nkezJeGTa?dl=0
[Evidence initiating Jenna hate]
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vk4v1gcpxydq4z4/AACA-iljiNlqg0NqToudIxbta?dl=0
This has been HELL for everyone involved. I am sorry for who I was and have been. I meant my apology. I WANT and have been trying to be better. I am broken. This hatred needs to end.
I did not want to escalate it this far. I was afraid to try and confront so many people at once. So many truths and lies. I wanted to take responsibility for what I had done and move on. To the false claims, I saw how deeply it hurt OG. I saw how deeply you hurt my community even after I took responsibility. I don’t want to guilt anyone, I am merely saying how I feel. I am empty. I was made to be the sole abuser in all of this when that just isn’t the facts. I’ve had to relive all of my past trauma to give you this proof. I am in pain. Layna, you say I ruined your life. You have ruined mine.
Now Bahroo got another tweet longer accusing him of being your stereotypical e-celeb always chasing views and throwing people under the bus. Along with making random death threats against other streamers and artists.
https://archive.ph/dnTxG
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss058b
Before I get into the stuff I had to deal with Bahroo I want to address a couple of things:
I've never had to speak out like this. I feel like these days you can't solve things privately anymore. I’ve tried resolving things with him privately, but he wouldn’t listen to me and gaslit everything I said which made me silent. Tried talking to him twice by the way. Like talking to a wall.
It took my friend Sam(Strippin) to expose Bahroo's lies for him to finally "apologize". I want to point out that until that moment, he was on stream and victimizing himself despite knowing what he had done to Layna. I feel he often uses these opportunities to manipulate the situation. He was asking his viewers to give support to his tweets while sobbing and actively hiding every single tweet that was negative so that other followers wouldn't notice what was going on. But then he got caught by someone big enough to make him shake, that he ended his subathon to address it. His "apology" was pretty much sorry I got caught, here's some money back to make things go away, and let's all move on and forget about it because I'm going to stream tomorrow. This behavior is awful but this is not something new with Bahroo.
What I'm about to go into next is WHY I wanted to distance myself from him which I feel is important for context leading up to the recent awful things he did to me.
Bahroo and I used to stream together often. We were seen as close friends and I considered him one at one point. There were early red flags with questionable things he said or did but I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt because I thought he was the victim.
He would often leave me on read, would ignore things I said and would only invest into talking about himself or if he wanted something. He didn't seem too interested in me. Big streamer, busy guy, yeah yeah. Whatever. I didn't take it personally.
Time went by and we got closer but being his friend was exhausting. It started to seem very one-sided and it drove me into an awful mental state. He often bullied me or tried to make himself look better at the expense of my faults to entertain his stream. It didn't feel like friendly banter at all. I felt like I couldn't be myself when doing anything with him. I had to be careful with what I said or did. Otherwise it would make him upset.
Late 2018 I started to get really big off of Pokemon Lets Go on Twitch. I was doing some crazy content while trying to catch a super rare version of a Pokemon. He had even made a bet I couldn't do it. I was getting thousands of viewers, something that had never happened before. As my channel was finally gaining some traction he started to raid me way more than usual and wanted to get on Discord calls constantly. He had never done this in the past:
https://gyazo.com/a39d5e99091f8a7c82c75492a83e314d
It was so weird and sudden. During the calls it seemed like he wanted to be the center of attention and try to control the chat by doing his trigger words that induced spam of his emotes.
I was finally in the spotlight for once in my career and he wanted to redirect the attention to himself rather than be supportive. This made me feel awful and it felt like this behavior was overlooked because he was a big streamer.
It took a total of 10 days and I finally caught the super rare Pokemon and my numbers started to go way down (which was understandable) but something that really stung was he immediately stopped showing interest in hanging out on Discord calls.
I felt kinda used... It seemed like all he cared about was trying to advertise himself and his emotes in front of all the new people that were watching me and then once people moved on he saw no value anymore.
At one point in time my whole chat consisted of Bahroo's subs. It was if someone copy pasted his chat on top of my Twitch channel page. I was dominated by his influence and I just sat there and dealt with it. I felt like my stream was a waiting room for his stream and it made me not want to stream at times.
I had to deal with his anger issues over petty things. He would vent to me frequently about his problems and even started to say some messed up things about people I knew and even some that I was friends with. He had even expressed wanting to hurt 2 streamers and wished an artist harm. Could only share these 2:
https://gyazo.com/0e6fd7cca03b38e08cc1f2b1c23db1c6
It seemed like he never had anything good to say about anyone. He often talked bad about people and it seemed like he was often angry. I had heard that he was talking about me behind my back which really hurt. I ignored it because I felt pressured to be his friend and he constantly made me feel bad for him.
I tried so hard to help him by giving him constant mental support, cheering him on, helping him with advice, and overall to just be there for him. But it just seemed like he wanted pity. It was really sad.
He kept saying depressing things and I tried so hard to put his mind in the opposite direction. I gave so much of myself to help this guy because I just genuinely cared and kept feeling bad for him. I wasn't expecting anything in return. I just wanted to be a friend to him because for some mysterious reason he didn't seem to have many.
He had this obsession about wanting to know which artist did X work for me and he would frequently ask about my emotes or designs:
https://gyazo.com/e1ab9b631b9d8c99d7f257997dc3f38a
Before I knew it, he was hiring those artists and getting similar things done. I didn't mind the behavior at first but then it started to get excessive. I noticed he did it with other streamers as well so I kind of dealt with it. He also didn't seem to like it when I confronted him about this issue.
All these problems started to build up over time and I wasn't enjoying streaming anymore. I felt pressured by too many things involving him that I took a couple of weeks off to get away from it all. Depression hit me really hard.
In 2019 I visited him at his place (2nd time) because he invited me over again. He made plans with other streamers when we were supposed to do things together. Even his viewers were confused why I was sitting in the living room doing nothing. When he finally decided to do things with me, I wasn’t allowed to react to his chat. I reacted to one person and he DM’d me this immediately:
https://gyazo.com/49a095bb32858a230e50935fd11c4375
For someone that I thought was my friend, this seemed controlling and weird.
Later that day I was streaming alone in his living room. Bahroo was sitting behind me watching and then proceeded to insert himself in my stream because he wanted to beat something I was struggling with. I wanted to try to do it on my own but he insisted and his community started to demand it so I gave in. It all seemed hypocritical to do after what he DM’d me earlier that day.
Again, all his behavior that I had to deal with up to this point is by no means illegal and some might even see it as not a big deal but it made me feel awful which is why I just wanted to get away from him. It felt like a one-sided friendship and I was being mentally abused and used.
2020 was the year that things started to get really awful between us. I was keeping my distance even more because he kept doing shitty behavior. He could tell that I was keeping distance from him so tension continued to rise. I didn't want to associate myself with him anymore.
Then in June 2020 when a bunch of streamers were being canceled left and right, he started talking with me. He was being overly polite and very talkative with me trying to start conversations about people getting canceled which then lead into this:
https://gyazo.com/1becae63ccc1ce24fa87eb0e6d9d0842
I purposely wanted to show this because yes I did say that because I was an idiot and trusted him again. Then he kept coming to me more about other people being canceled and it started to irritate me because it seemed like he was getting impatient. I really needed time to think and this wasn't helping. He would show up to my stream more so he could subtly remind me. I again told him I needed time:
https://gyazo.com/56f66fa15c1db69966e43f15e8274287
Then a week later he made a cryptic tweet:
https://gyazo.com/be97eaf58efb6add877c135388662b64
Was he talking about me? Or was he having more problems with people? I don't know but I wanted to get away from him so badly. Too many red flags. Over the next week he started to come in my stream and act like nothing was wrong. We were NOT on good terms at all. But he just kept doing it. I had enough and I felt even more uncomfortable since that tweet. This was while I was streaming and I messaged him:
https://gyazo.com/9fc785fc5f803d1d9ff41c4a62655789
All he cared about was if I was going to out him. I burst out with a scream and ended my stream. I felt betrayed again. Why did I keep giving this guy a chance?
I was done. From there I refused to talk to him and swore to never associate myself with him ever again. But I had to take time off streaming again because I was a mess from all this bullying.
He soon blocked me a couple of weeks later:
https://gyazo.com/c9e37f7f71096a897a431dc8271445b5
Once I came back to streaming, I made a public statement:
https://gyazo.com/ab4aa46212f934d44ee701c32bcfee8b
I wanted to move on and just heal man. This was my answer to it.
Over the next couple of months I avoided anything that involved him. Even communities he hung around. I wanted nothing to do with him but unfortunately he wouldn't stop bothering me.
I planned a game night with another group of friends but instead of asking me he proceeded to ask my other friends to join which not only made me feel uncomfortable but some of my friends as well. He blocked me on Twitter a couple of months ago so what was he trying to achieve? Was he trying to pressure me in public?
https://gyazo.com/b89b24fc5d7b66e84b4e008d54556eba
Then later that day he sent me this on Discord:
https://gyazo.com/45e6d0c9a86f0dcac6fcabe21c2a0eeb
What is he talking about? My friends and I had already planned a night together and he came to that ridiculous conclusion. It felt like he didn't want me having fun with anyone. This made me extremely uncomfortable and I did not want to plan any more game nights ever again.
Then one day on his stream(a few months later) I was brought up by his chat and immediately he shut down the conversation with this (video and unmute):
https://imgur.com/a/RccCysh
As I stated above, he blocked me a while back yet he chose to lie about it to his viewers. I sucked it up and said nothing. I just dealt with it. A few weeks later numerous people were talking about him in my chat and they wouldn't stop. I decided to stand up for myself and said, "I'm surprised a lot of people still don't know but me and Bahroo are not friends anymore. Recently he lied about me on his stream and I'm disappointed. I don't care if you use his emotes but please don't talk about him in my chat." And that was that. I tried to be as respectful as possible.
Then a few weeks later Bahroo's manager reached out to me to put the issues between me and Bahroo to rest and insisted on getting on a call about it. I asked for details first and it was about a clip of me and what I had said above. I told her I couldn't take care of this right now and I would get back to her in a few days. Then she checked in again and I told her I wasn't ready yet. At the time I was trying to take care of my pregnant wife and constant news of my dying grandmother back in the states. A week went by and she got a little pushy. And then 2 days later I was hit with this:
https://gyazo.com/1fd13c37c22fe0e58c7d3ca2f7abee31
In which I responded with:
https://gyazo.com/102a71b8b9d0a46d198b790a36ce4ae2
Then, I was ghosted. Never heard from her again.
It was a bully tactic and yes, it worked. Despite him having no grounds to actually take legal action against me this still shook me to the core. I wanted to call it out so badly but I stayed silent in fear of him coming after me again. I've seen him crush so many people that have spoken out against him. I felt isolated.
My mental state got worse over time as I started to see small bits of rumors about me. Even when I was the PogChamp emote for a day on Twitch(which he banned in his chat), people seemed confused and I was made out as a bad guy. Soon after, I wasn't myself on stream anymore and people could tell I was not happy. I became so self-conscious about everything and it ruined my head even further that it snowballed. It got so bad that yet again I took another huge break 5 months ago that lasted over a month.
This is me setting the record straight because he keeps getting away with this shitty behavior and nobody calls him out. The guy is an entertaining streamer to many but the fact that he hasn't learned anything in the past years just disappoints me as someone who used to be a friend of his.
I hope that this helps shed some light on all the things that were swept under the rug for so long. I was going to keep all this in forever but when he started to mess with my friends and continued to show bad behavior I couldn't keep it in anymore.
He can try and claim he was misled by Bunny when he made lies about Layna, but to me that was his own wrongdoing.
I don’t want him to be canceled. I just want him to man up and change.
One last comment: Please stop fighting for content creators you know nothing about. This is why parasocial relationships can be so dangerous. Someone with the right influence and wrong intentions can wield it like a weapon to keep people silent.
Itemized list of Sinnocent's lies about her and their relationship.
Calls Susu the abuser and real drive behind any toxic/trolling behavior she had at the time., and after their breakup it was for Bunny to escape such a toxic person.
Says that Layna is the one who cut the deal off and worked against her.
https://archive.ph/Ue2eW
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss05gg
Here is just the first two paragraphs for a taste of what the whole thing reads like.
All cards on the table
This has gotten out of hand, Layna you have forced my hand. I tried to reach out to you multiple times over the years and you were personal friends with those I asked to help me with getting to have a conversation with you. You have done irreparable harm to myself, my brands, and my friendships. Why would you lie that I didn't reach out? Here is the proof.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900053706245025812/955660900482834502/LaynaProof1.PNG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...2/955700086992683078/ProofofLaynaBlocking.png
You consistently claim the 20k debt as a part of your suffering. However, YOU are the one that canceled the figure in the first place. Per YOUR contract, you took on the financial burden of making the figure. Although we had our differences I STILL wanted to finish this figure and then we could part ways amicably. We never would have talked again. I spent time and shouted out every one of your streams on my account. I rallied my fans to your streams to get excited. Whenever you needed anything for Susu’s figures I was the middleman. You know I paid for Susu’s prints to be shipped overnight to New Zealand. You know the calls we had were I consoled you while you were stressed with Susu’s figure. I helped you. I didn’t have to, I wanted to. The tension was unhealthy. I understand you didn’t want to do a figure because we no longer were friends. This is not good business. I tried to talk to your business partner, he told me he would not be involved in any of your drama despite being a co-owner. You have asked for a public apology from me. I did it knowing all this truth but it still wasn’t good enough for you. We both experienced pain. YOU blocked ME. I could never contact you. When you joined a discord group I was in it you left and left a vague message saying that everyone should watch their backs. I attempted to reach out after this. I need to show the raw truth.
Here is the full time-line of events.
Sinnocent (Date: 2013 - 2016)
I met Sinnocent in the Costume/Cosplay community through a photographer of ours, who did photoshoots for both of us. Through this we became friends and did photo work together.
“I would go as far as waking up in the middle of the night to go over to her house to cook."
- She has come over one time to make me spaghetti, this is an over exaggeration of my reliance on her.
“When we met she had virtually no following and I helped build her socials.”
- This is incorrect. I had a larger following on my Facebook and Deviantart page before we met.
“During our break in 2016, bunny started dating him, hid it from me and then lied about doing so”
- We were two mutually consenting adults and we pursued a relationship after he made it clear that he had no intention of returning to his previous girlfriend.
“ I was terrified of running into her at a convention and ultimately decided to retire from cosplay and give up a 15 year long journey.”
- I was told directly to my face that the reason that she quit was because she wasn’t making enough revenue and she was stagnant.
“Only to find out that she had gone to badmouth me to other creators and spread lies, I’m still hearing about things to this day“
- The only person I told about this was Susu as she asked about my past relationships.
“Bunny spun our story to make herself the victims, reversing the roles to say her boyfriend cheated on her with me. “
- My boyfriend at the time would physically and emotionally abuse me. Without telling me he would go over to Sinnocent, this is why I stopped with all contact with her. However, she was unaware of his abuse towards me during this time.
After finding out, she did help me move out of my apartment.
“She then cheated on him with OGTexas “
- Sinnocent had no knowledge of OG at this time and our friendship at the time. We were not dating at that time. The only person who would have told about OG is Susu.
“ Bunny accused me of what she had done which in turn dissolved a 4 year long relationship and destroyed me as a person. “
- I stated that my boyfriend at the time was cheating on me with her. To which she found out about the abuse and helped me get out of my apartment.
“ I reached out to people only to find out each side got told different stories from her. “
- As stated above, I only ever confided any information regarding Sinnocent to Susu, who was my partner at the time.
“ One of them moved to attempt suicide because of bunny’s actions “
- The individual in question is “Yurockit”/Adella. She was in a bad mental space at the time.
“Bunny does not care who you are, if she thinks she can gain something from you she will attempt to attach to you and bunny will try to drain all beneficial advantages she can from you.”
-This is all conjecture and defamation of character. None of this can be proved and corroborated with others.
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2. Yurockit / Adella: (Date: - 2017)I met Adella in the cosplay/costume community as she worked with the same Photographer.
“ Every detail she described in her detail were absolutely true. [Sinnocent]”
- As stated above, Sinnocent left out many key details in her post.
“Phone calls, messages both outbound and inbound largely consisted of painful confirmations to terminated friendships or newly founded suspicion “
- The only person I discussed Yuki with was Susu, and I only did this in confidence as she was my partner at the time
September 22nd, 2017 - I began to get worn down and tired as I was constantly being used as a trauma dump. I communicated that I was done. I asked her to leave.
September 29th, 2017 - I reached out to Adella’s partner because I wanted to end things on good terms.
October 31st, 2017- They tried to reach out to rekindle the relationship. At this time I was seeking medical help for my depression and anxiety. I wished her the best in the future.
Screenshots of Yurockit:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0armmwwyxt5swrk/AACIViLil-USZZlUo6msHePHa/Adella?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
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Susu
Around late 2015 - early 2016
Susu approached me at a convention in Texas for a photo and I was taken back by having a cute girl approach me. We began to talk online after exchanging socials. We agreed to meet up and it organically evolved into a relationship. This was a consensual open relationship.
I never wanted to bring in a personal relationship but my hand is forced. Without these messages, I could not prove my statements. Susu approached me as a fan of my costume work when I did it as a hobby and we became friends. We decided to meet up out of a convention space and eventually began to date. I looked up to her. I believed her because I owed so much to her. I felt like I was a nobody until she told me what would make me successful. She suggested I do more provocative photos if I wanted to quit my office job and explore this new life. I took the leap and it paid off. It got to my head. I saw how she talked about others and as the fame got to my head I copied her behavior. When we first met I did not have a voice, I did what I was told. As I spent more time with her, I became like her and became a toxic person. In the end, these are MY ACTIONS but I will not go down silent. She initiated the hate of other creators regularly. She would go out of her way to constantly bring up women in the community and body shame them. I followed. I did the same. We both did this. We were both GUILTY of being toxic to each other and those around us. I have the proof that she initiated these conversations. She was the one who brought Jenna to my attention and made threads on lolcow about her. She would regularly call Peachjars retarded. I know this is wrong and I partook in the harassment. These conversations were private as we were intimate partners at the time. I was emotionally abused by Susu for many years. I did not have a voice to speak up against her and when I did I left her. After I quit lewd modeling I left the cosplay community. I wanted to change. I hated who I was and I tried to become a different person. I never thought any of this would come out because it was all private drama so I never addressed it. I see my old self in the girls cheering on bullying on a twitch stream. You have proven that person I was, I’m not that person anymore. I wanted and still want to be better. Susu, you know the truth. You know we were both in a mutually toxic relationship. Neither of us are innocent.
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Vixenshelby/Shelby:I met Vixenshelby when I did lewd modeling work and she did fan-art of me. We networked together and became friends. I invited her to visit Texas. She stayed at my apartment with her husband and brother. We visited the state fair and I helped her take photos at Susu’s apartment.
“She and OG were also very physically and verbally inappropriate towards my partner and myself. They would talk about his dick a lot and made a card while we were there about his penis.”
- The conversations that OG and her husband had were nothing but positive and friendly. We never did a card regarding the man’s penis or made comments about it. Furthermore, OG himself drove her husband to the airport at request of the husband. Afterwards, they had a pleasant conversation via text.
“She also laid her body across my partner and laid her head on his crotch.”
- The only physical contact that I have ever had was a hug and a hi-five. This is false.
“Bunny would always be touching me my butt or my breasts for no reason.”
- We were two consenting adults who playfully touched each other. I never touched her without permission nor did I pester her to do so. She also would grab my breasts a lot.
“Attempts were made to isolate Su during this visit…”
- This statement is false. When we spent time with Su we went to Su’s apartment. Su and I helped with lighting and posing for Shelby’s photoshoot at Su’s apartment.
“..didn’t want to include her in outings because “Su will bring down the mood or have one excuse or another.”
- This is incorrect. We invited her multiple times during the visit. Susu didn’t want to meet two men that she did not know at first.
“I only got to have one on one time with her[Susu] a couple times throughout the week + long trip without bunny needing to basically chaperone our interactions.”
- I never tried to keep anyone apart from each other.
“Bunny was also saying really mean and unkind things about other creators..”
- I will not try to hide my past, I did say things that were toxic and unsavory in a closed environment were it was common to vent.
“If you aren’t doing it for money, why are you even doing it at all.”- This is a flat out lie. I started doing Cosplay as a hobby myself and I love the craft. I would never say this.
“That they should only do characters they look like.”
- This is a statement I do not believe in and have never said. I was in the room when Susu made this statement.
“Some other personal events transpired during that visit that I can’t go into detail but it all resulted in a massive confrontation a couple days later.”
- The details that Shelby doesn’t want to go into is that she inserted herself into trying to help Susu and I mend our relationship. She screamed at me in my kitchen with her husband, her brother and OG present. I was verbally assaulted to the point that I had to run to my bedroom to hide in my own house. All the others present were in shock of Shelby’s outburst, no one including her partner tried to step in and stop this. I called Susu and begged her to come over so she could help calm Shelby down. After this, I asked her to leave. Her husband asked OG to drive him to the airport. Shelby and her brother left in their car.
“My partner had flown home due to us being convinced into staying a few extra days for a photoshoot and work opportunity which neither happened.”
- The photoshoot did happen. I don’t know if the photoset got posted.Also, OG assisted in helping find work opportunities for her husband but the one he found did not come to fruition.
“Then to find out she was telling lies that I was attacking her.”
- During her verbal outbreak she was very aggressive. She flailed her arms in my face and was starting to trigger my PTSD. She didn’t touch me but she charged at me and threw her hands in my face. The only person that I spoke of the my memory was Susu as she came over after to console me.
“Constantly she would advise me to do what Jenna does in an attempt to best her.”
- Shelby approached me and asked me to help with posing and her photo-sets. I agreed because I wanted to do a favor for a friend. I accept that I did make negative comments and own up to the fact I was a toxic person. This wasn’t right - ever. In attempting to hype up a friend I was cruel. I own up to the person I used to be. [apology here]
“ Throughout the whole Texas trip Jenna was brought up she would lurk through forums about her body shame her and claimed Jenna received a botched cosmetic surgery. “
- Jenna was brought up a few times but it was not the main conversation of the trip. I do admit and take responsibility for my cruel remarks regarding her physical appearance. It’s not right and it will never will be right to body shame someone despite your personal feelings. As a woman who is judged daily on my appearance I never should have added to this conversation.
“Persistently she would criticize almost everything about her, sharing post to chats to say one bad thing or another”
- I admit that I was part of this however, Susu was the one constantly bringing it up as well.
“She tried to tell me how I should be dressing, posing, editing my photos, interacting with bigger accounts, who I should interact with and who I shouldn’t. Whenever I told her I wouldn’t do those things they were met with confusion and ire.”
- Shelby approached me asking for advice on how to better accentuate her features. I helped style her and she appeared to be genuinely happy. I also gave her recommendations for separating her SFW and NSFW accounts, which she did. I never told her who not to work with, I only gave her honest advice.
“Previous cons”
August 30th - September 2nd, 2019 -
We only had one confrontation at a convention. PAX West 2019. What started this was that I had walked up to a booth and the person working there made me uncomfortable.. I got upset that neither Shelby or OG stepped in to help me as I was physically uncomfortable. After which, I stormed off and had a dinner by myself.
During the time I was away, Shelby gaslit OG into being more assertive and inserted herself into our relationship. When I got back to the hotel room they were both crying. When I saw this I was confused and we had a civil conversation.
October 13th, 2019 - Shelby, her husband and her brother arrived in Texas. I let me stay at my apartment for the duration of the trip. They were supposed to stay 10 days but they extended the stay to 12.
October 25th, 2019 - A heated despite broke out in my kitchen in which Shelby attacked me verbally. Afterwards, OG took her partner to the airport on good terms. Shelby and her brother left the same day, just a little later as they left by car.
October 26th, 2019 - Evidence of the dispute how it effected the parties involved taken at 2AM as we were not able to sleep.
Screenshots of Vixenshelby:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hp7a31f0twib7b2/AAAJoAbcxYqn_1BifBw3hYvYa?dl=0
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Layna:
November 6th, 2019 -
I reached out to Layna over Twitter DMs to try to communicate. The checkmark shows that it was successfully sent.
Cherry Bombs Dispute
November 9th, 2019 -
link to full cherrybombs chat: https://imgur.com/a/7eNnt0b
After the dispute, Susu and I had this conversation proving my desire to communicate. I expressed my fear of Layna and how others feared me.
Screenshots for during the dispute:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dim1immunethkfm/AABvYuMobZG1XwNefZTjyMsUa?dl=0
November 10th, 2019 -
Susu and I had a conversation after seeing Layna subtweeting. We also discuss Troy and OG's misunderstandings.
Screenshots for the aftermath:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c1awc8lqiikq2dm/AACPu6MsV7TbBvYxQHqXnRxta?dl=0
Troy and OGTEXAS talk
November 11th, 2019 -
Two Days after the Cherry Bomb dispute, Troy admits there are 0 issues.
Screenshots for Troy and OG:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sqhzpbu2ig4fztf/AAB3tiIpCTV32eeKI6wHJuYIa?dl=0
Layna and Susu voicecall
December 5th, 2019 -
Susu has a voice call with Layna. Layna is upset that I supported Troy and Peachmilky on stream.
Screenshots for Layna & Susu voicecall:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/32f1ttuxbb68uyv/AADuD9-_RlOl4QjELG9e6-TOa?dl=0
Bunny and Susu Breakup
January 27th, 2020 -
Susu and I mutually broke up and were on positive terms.
Screenshots of the breakup texts:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0otm3xa0dc0l7r6/AAAMk-bg6POrQiZxxdhshFtBa?dl=0
IHAZTOYS cancels figure
March 31st, 2020
Ihaztoys and I share the cancelation of the figure on social media. Layna subtweets.
texts between Su and I talking about the cancelation of the project:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ij30dbnxef7ici9/AAAsZDyi8JKItGMD_7R2wlsya?dl=0
Silvervale
I began discussion with Silvervale in April 18, 2020 as a friend when I first became a V-tuber.
August 31st, 2020
I confided in Silver that I was afraid of Layna due to the past in a private DM.
May 14, 2021 and onwards
I attempted to reach out with concerns, asking if I did something wrong. There was no response.
screenshots for Silvervale: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pyhs36el3nzihgo/AAD1ftQCsb9RNOZBII6glG-ma?dl=0
April 28th, 2021
I was added to a v-tuber group that Layna joined. Layna left a message that everyone needed to be careful and left. I tried to reach out to the person in charge of the group- letting her know I have no hard feelings towards Layna and wanted to talk.
screenshots of me reaching out
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0l71x76bsd1r8ki/AACQbVKEQcZlfXP_xjHSZgj9a?dl=0
Present day
Susu says I was emotional abusive
Susu and I had a mutually toxic relationship. As you can see by our conversations, this was not healthy. I broke up with Susu so we could become better.
Jenna's Twitch Stream
Jenna streamed the false allegations to Twitch.
I’ve made my apology towards Jenna and I mean it. I should have never body shamed you or done any of the cruel things I did. I apologized both privately and publicly. She made my private apology public and ridiculed it on stream. This is against Twitch TOS. I said I would leave your name out of my mouth due to fear and wanting to stop this hate from spreading to my friends. It did not so I’m sorry but I will break my promise. You dragged everyone who supported me through the mud. You presented all of these allegations as fact and in doing so have done irreparable harm to me as a person and my brand. You didn’t wait to hear my side but laughed at false allegations to thousands of people. I took full responsibility for my actions but it was not good enough for you and you sought only to cause pain and strife for your own amusement. In your chat I saw Layna, who was supposedly looking for a resolution. I saw Susu, who was claimed she was taking time off the internet. I saw the overwhelming support for false allegations and outright slander.
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1431001197
Note that we have the full VOD uploaded should you decide to delete this.
List of all broadcasters and their messages.
-https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...FyIP7TAUmJLdiKkYv8vxt2S7CfI/edit?usp=drivesdk
Note that Susu who was supposed to be off the internet at this time was in the stream, indicating further conversation between the two.
Layna was also in this stream riling up the mob.
Many people were in these chats cheering on the false allegations and pain of my friends. Needless attacking and finding entertainment in pain.
Me and my community have received death threats. I wanted to quit. I didn't want to share my personal life but I am forced to in order to clear my name.
AdmiralBahroo is NOT part of this conversation. He is his own person. Do NOT attach my past to him.
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Extra screenshots, I am not hiding anything:
[Evidence of toxicity / Layna's history with blocking & censoring]
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f06jk1djdrrh89e/AADkOoVN6cI0yMe7nkezJeGTa?dl=0
[Evidence initiating Jenna hate]
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vk4v1gcpxydq4z4/AACA-iljiNlqg0NqToudIxbta?dl=0
This has been HELL for everyone involved. I am sorry for who I was and have been. I meant my apology. I WANT and have been trying to be better. I am broken. This hatred needs to end.
I did not want to escalate it this far. I was afraid to try and confront so many people at once. So many truths and lies. I wanted to take responsibility for what I had done and move on. To the false claims, I saw how deeply it hurt OG. I saw how deeply you hurt my community even after I took responsibility. I don’t want to guilt anyone, I am merely saying how I feel. I am empty. I was made to be the sole abuser in all of this when that just isn’t the facts. I’ve had to relive all of my past trauma to give you this proof. I am in pain. Layna, you say I ruined your life. You have ruined mine.
Now Bahroo got another tweet longer accusing him of being your stereotypical e-celeb always chasing views and throwing people under the bus. Along with making random death threats against other streamers and artists.
https://archive.ph/dnTxG
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss058b
My experience with Bahroo
Before I get into the stuff I had to deal with Bahroo I want to address a couple of things:
I've never had to speak out like this. I feel like these days you can't solve things privately anymore. I’ve tried resolving things with him privately, but he wouldn’t listen to me and gaslit everything I said which made me silent. Tried talking to him twice by the way. Like talking to a wall.
It took my friend Sam(Strippin) to expose Bahroo's lies for him to finally "apologize". I want to point out that until that moment, he was on stream and victimizing himself despite knowing what he had done to Layna. I feel he often uses these opportunities to manipulate the situation. He was asking his viewers to give support to his tweets while sobbing and actively hiding every single tweet that was negative so that other followers wouldn't notice what was going on. But then he got caught by someone big enough to make him shake, that he ended his subathon to address it. His "apology" was pretty much sorry I got caught, here's some money back to make things go away, and let's all move on and forget about it because I'm going to stream tomorrow. This behavior is awful but this is not something new with Bahroo.
What I'm about to go into next is WHY I wanted to distance myself from him which I feel is important for context leading up to the recent awful things he did to me.
Bahroo and I used to stream together often. We were seen as close friends and I considered him one at one point. There were early red flags with questionable things he said or did but I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt because I thought he was the victim.
He would often leave me on read, would ignore things I said and would only invest into talking about himself or if he wanted something. He didn't seem too interested in me. Big streamer, busy guy, yeah yeah. Whatever. I didn't take it personally.
Time went by and we got closer but being his friend was exhausting. It started to seem very one-sided and it drove me into an awful mental state. He often bullied me or tried to make himself look better at the expense of my faults to entertain his stream. It didn't feel like friendly banter at all. I felt like I couldn't be myself when doing anything with him. I had to be careful with what I said or did. Otherwise it would make him upset.
Late 2018 I started to get really big off of Pokemon Lets Go on Twitch. I was doing some crazy content while trying to catch a super rare version of a Pokemon. He had even made a bet I couldn't do it. I was getting thousands of viewers, something that had never happened before. As my channel was finally gaining some traction he started to raid me way more than usual and wanted to get on Discord calls constantly. He had never done this in the past:
https://gyazo.com/a39d5e99091f8a7c82c75492a83e314d
It was so weird and sudden. During the calls it seemed like he wanted to be the center of attention and try to control the chat by doing his trigger words that induced spam of his emotes.
I was finally in the spotlight for once in my career and he wanted to redirect the attention to himself rather than be supportive. This made me feel awful and it felt like this behavior was overlooked because he was a big streamer.
It took a total of 10 days and I finally caught the super rare Pokemon and my numbers started to go way down (which was understandable) but something that really stung was he immediately stopped showing interest in hanging out on Discord calls.
I felt kinda used... It seemed like all he cared about was trying to advertise himself and his emotes in front of all the new people that were watching me and then once people moved on he saw no value anymore.
At one point in time my whole chat consisted of Bahroo's subs. It was if someone copy pasted his chat on top of my Twitch channel page. I was dominated by his influence and I just sat there and dealt with it. I felt like my stream was a waiting room for his stream and it made me not want to stream at times.
I had to deal with his anger issues over petty things. He would vent to me frequently about his problems and even started to say some messed up things about people I knew and even some that I was friends with. He had even expressed wanting to hurt 2 streamers and wished an artist harm. Could only share these 2:
https://gyazo.com/0e6fd7cca03b38e08cc1f2b1c23db1c6
It seemed like he never had anything good to say about anyone. He often talked bad about people and it seemed like he was often angry. I had heard that he was talking about me behind my back which really hurt. I ignored it because I felt pressured to be his friend and he constantly made me feel bad for him.
I tried so hard to help him by giving him constant mental support, cheering him on, helping him with advice, and overall to just be there for him. But it just seemed like he wanted pity. It was really sad.
He kept saying depressing things and I tried so hard to put his mind in the opposite direction. I gave so much of myself to help this guy because I just genuinely cared and kept feeling bad for him. I wasn't expecting anything in return. I just wanted to be a friend to him because for some mysterious reason he didn't seem to have many.
He had this obsession about wanting to know which artist did X work for me and he would frequently ask about my emotes or designs:
https://gyazo.com/e1ab9b631b9d8c99d7f257997dc3f38a
Before I knew it, he was hiring those artists and getting similar things done. I didn't mind the behavior at first but then it started to get excessive. I noticed he did it with other streamers as well so I kind of dealt with it. He also didn't seem to like it when I confronted him about this issue.
All these problems started to build up over time and I wasn't enjoying streaming anymore. I felt pressured by too many things involving him that I took a couple of weeks off to get away from it all. Depression hit me really hard.
In 2019 I visited him at his place (2nd time) because he invited me over again. He made plans with other streamers when we were supposed to do things together. Even his viewers were confused why I was sitting in the living room doing nothing. When he finally decided to do things with me, I wasn’t allowed to react to his chat. I reacted to one person and he DM’d me this immediately:
https://gyazo.com/49a095bb32858a230e50935fd11c4375
For someone that I thought was my friend, this seemed controlling and weird.
Later that day I was streaming alone in his living room. Bahroo was sitting behind me watching and then proceeded to insert himself in my stream because he wanted to beat something I was struggling with. I wanted to try to do it on my own but he insisted and his community started to demand it so I gave in. It all seemed hypocritical to do after what he DM’d me earlier that day.
Again, all his behavior that I had to deal with up to this point is by no means illegal and some might even see it as not a big deal but it made me feel awful which is why I just wanted to get away from him. It felt like a one-sided friendship and I was being mentally abused and used.
2020 was the year that things started to get really awful between us. I was keeping my distance even more because he kept doing shitty behavior. He could tell that I was keeping distance from him so tension continued to rise. I didn't want to associate myself with him anymore.
Then in June 2020 when a bunch of streamers were being canceled left and right, he started talking with me. He was being overly polite and very talkative with me trying to start conversations about people getting canceled which then lead into this:
https://gyazo.com/1becae63ccc1ce24fa87eb0e6d9d0842
I purposely wanted to show this because yes I did say that because I was an idiot and trusted him again. Then he kept coming to me more about other people being canceled and it started to irritate me because it seemed like he was getting impatient. I really needed time to think and this wasn't helping. He would show up to my stream more so he could subtly remind me. I again told him I needed time:
https://gyazo.com/56f66fa15c1db69966e43f15e8274287
Then a week later he made a cryptic tweet:
https://gyazo.com/be97eaf58efb6add877c135388662b64
Was he talking about me? Or was he having more problems with people? I don't know but I wanted to get away from him so badly. Too many red flags. Over the next week he started to come in my stream and act like nothing was wrong. We were NOT on good terms at all. But he just kept doing it. I had enough and I felt even more uncomfortable since that tweet. This was while I was streaming and I messaged him:
https://gyazo.com/9fc785fc5f803d1d9ff41c4a62655789
All he cared about was if I was going to out him. I burst out with a scream and ended my stream. I felt betrayed again. Why did I keep giving this guy a chance?
I was done. From there I refused to talk to him and swore to never associate myself with him ever again. But I had to take time off streaming again because I was a mess from all this bullying.
He soon blocked me a couple of weeks later:
https://gyazo.com/c9e37f7f71096a897a431dc8271445b5
Once I came back to streaming, I made a public statement:
https://gyazo.com/ab4aa46212f934d44ee701c32bcfee8b
I wanted to move on and just heal man. This was my answer to it.
Over the next couple of months I avoided anything that involved him. Even communities he hung around. I wanted nothing to do with him but unfortunately he wouldn't stop bothering me.
I planned a game night with another group of friends but instead of asking me he proceeded to ask my other friends to join which not only made me feel uncomfortable but some of my friends as well. He blocked me on Twitter a couple of months ago so what was he trying to achieve? Was he trying to pressure me in public?
https://gyazo.com/b89b24fc5d7b66e84b4e008d54556eba
Then later that day he sent me this on Discord:
https://gyazo.com/45e6d0c9a86f0dcac6fcabe21c2a0eeb
What is he talking about? My friends and I had already planned a night together and he came to that ridiculous conclusion. It felt like he didn't want me having fun with anyone. This made me extremely uncomfortable and I did not want to plan any more game nights ever again.
Then one day on his stream(a few months later) I was brought up by his chat and immediately he shut down the conversation with this (video and unmute):
https://imgur.com/a/RccCysh
As I stated above, he blocked me a while back yet he chose to lie about it to his viewers. I sucked it up and said nothing. I just dealt with it. A few weeks later numerous people were talking about him in my chat and they wouldn't stop. I decided to stand up for myself and said, "I'm surprised a lot of people still don't know but me and Bahroo are not friends anymore. Recently he lied about me on his stream and I'm disappointed. I don't care if you use his emotes but please don't talk about him in my chat." And that was that. I tried to be as respectful as possible.
Then a few weeks later Bahroo's manager reached out to me to put the issues between me and Bahroo to rest and insisted on getting on a call about it. I asked for details first and it was about a clip of me and what I had said above. I told her I couldn't take care of this right now and I would get back to her in a few days. Then she checked in again and I told her I wasn't ready yet. At the time I was trying to take care of my pregnant wife and constant news of my dying grandmother back in the states. A week went by and she got a little pushy. And then 2 days later I was hit with this:
https://gyazo.com/1fd13c37c22fe0e58c7d3ca2f7abee31
In which I responded with:
https://gyazo.com/102a71b8b9d0a46d198b790a36ce4ae2
Then, I was ghosted. Never heard from her again.
It was a bully tactic and yes, it worked. Despite him having no grounds to actually take legal action against me this still shook me to the core. I wanted to call it out so badly but I stayed silent in fear of him coming after me again. I've seen him crush so many people that have spoken out against him. I felt isolated.
My mental state got worse over time as I started to see small bits of rumors about me. Even when I was the PogChamp emote for a day on Twitch(which he banned in his chat), people seemed confused and I was made out as a bad guy. Soon after, I wasn't myself on stream anymore and people could tell I was not happy. I became so self-conscious about everything and it ruined my head even further that it snowballed. It got so bad that yet again I took another huge break 5 months ago that lasted over a month.
This is me setting the record straight because he keeps getting away with this shitty behavior and nobody calls him out. The guy is an entertaining streamer to many but the fact that he hasn't learned anything in the past years just disappoints me as someone who used to be a friend of his.
I hope that this helps shed some light on all the things that were swept under the rug for so long. I was going to keep all this in forever but when he started to mess with my friends and continued to show bad behavior I couldn't keep it in anymore.
He can try and claim he was misled by Bunny when he made lies about Layna, but to me that was his own wrongdoing.
I don’t want him to be canceled. I just want him to man up and change.
One last comment: Please stop fighting for content creators you know nothing about. This is why parasocial relationships can be so dangerous. Someone with the right influence and wrong intentions can wield it like a weapon to keep people silent.
DelusionTree
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2019
Tons of people are now memeing on the [apology here] fuckup Bunny did and allegedly the apology was written by a third party PR organization, when first posted the google docs linked had somebody else than Bunny as the co-creator.
- Joined
- Apr 8, 2021
I can barely understand what the fuck is going on with this drama, but it seems like a any other day ending in 'y' for artist twitter.
- Joined
- Jun 10, 2021
This situation could be summarized by literally any of them not saying anything.
- Joined
- Aug 18, 2019
The whole Bunny drama is probably the most retarded shit I've ever seen.
- Joined
- Jun 1, 2020
I have more or less skimmed through every post involving this Bunny person and I still have no idea who the hell any of these people are or why I should even care.
Things must be relatively slow in the vtuber scene lately.
Things must be relatively slow in the vtuber scene lately.
trailcamwhore
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 1, 2021
There's only one "final yab" a year, and Rushia claimed it already. JPD > BPD. Western hoes can't compete.