Coming Out to Friends as a Transphobe

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Kiwi Farms has shown me the many horrors of what MtF transsexuals are really like. The average person has a very glossy, fancy, sanitized idea of what they are. They believe that trans women somehow get a vagina transplant and estrogen supplementation has some kind of shape-shifting properties. The handful of "good" MtF transsexuals they're exposed to in pop culture, aside from maybe Jazz Jennings, are generally portrayed as cute little uwu oppressed gay men turned into women you'd never suspect to previously had a penis.

My social group is very liberal / progressive, so the constant regurgitation of End Transphobia and anti-TERF sentiment is exhausting and I so very often want to contradict it with nuggets of terror from this site. But it seems like to even question the validity of a troon, their motivations, and so on is tantamount to calling a black person nigger to their face. It's probably worse. It's very frustrating.

Do you have a woke social group, and if so, how do you handle being a transphobe?*

*yes, I am scared of them, so the -phobe suffix is appropriate.

 

[Joe Swanson]

Just slowly detach from that group of faggots and find people who are willing to joke about these things who won't stab you in the back unless you do it to them first

 

[Cheese Sandwich]

Getting out fast is better. Make a clean break before they suss you out and tear you up. There's millions of terves and transphobes out there to hang out with instead. Or start a garden or adopt an animal or climb a mountain or something more meaningful and experiential. Those people aren't your friends, they actually hate you. None of your common experiences and values will count for anything when they turn on you.

 

[stupid frog]

Send them images from the SRS thread, you won't have to do anything else.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Are you a woman?

 

[JoshPlz]

From what you wrote, it doesn't sound like you would have much success by challenging their opinions. Trying to do so is not unlikely to antagonize and make them turn on you.
Unless you know that your friends are able to handle differing opinions without demonizing them, I wouldn't try it.

If you still want to try, you could work the angle of supporting troons, but being wary of sex change operations, because of the horrifying outcomes and life long suffering caused by it. There are tons of recounts and some documentaries by actual troons that have nothing but regrets. Or being pro-troon, but only for people that are of legal age. Working towards sanity slowly.

Other than that, if you are tired of their bullshit:

Just slowly detach from that group of faggots and find people who are willing to joke about these things who won't stab you in the back unless you do it to them first

 

[HunterHearstHelmsley]

In 2016 I was attached to a very progressive group by way of a woman I was seeing. In my naivety I tried to understand that I may believe (instead of believing that I may understand). I unironically asked “isn’t it our cultural imperialism to call Indonesia homophobic?” Our relationship didn’t last long (thanks in no small part to pressure from that group). Get new friends.

 

[McSchlomo]

First of all, since that gets mentioned a lot:

-phobe doesn't necessarily mean being afraid of something.

phobia
/ˈfəʊbɪə/
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

So being a transphobe can simply mean very strongly disliking trannies.

Stand proud to being a transphobe. There is no weakness or irrationality in it.

 

[Just A Butt]

OP is so stunning and brave that he never considered just not hanging out with trannies

 

[WebLurker]

You could slowly ease them into the (true)world of the trans "community" through trans-people who don't follow the cult rhetoric. Give your friends a viewpoint from actual trannies who aren't happy about the sick, disturbing way that the trans shit is getting pushed - especially onto kids.

Rose of Dawn is one tranny I actually like watching. He has clinically-diagnosed gender-dysphoria, rather than being a AGP. He goes by 'she/her' but doesn't police it for others in addressing him - it's just how he feels about himself. Giving your friends a different perspective from someone who isn't "cis" might get past their brainwashing that any criticism of the LGBTQ Cultmunity is BAD! and make them more understanding on your feelings about trannies.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

If you have to lie about your beliefs to stay friends with them, they aren't really your friends anyway. Express yourself honestly and see who sticks around. You don't have to agree on everything, but if you can't agree to disagree, you're incompatible as friends.

A lot of those types of people are decidedly impervious to arguments based on facts and reason and instead go with a cult-like "shun the non-believer!" mentality whenever they hear opinions they disagree with. That's dangerous for your sanity to be around. I highly recommend being honest about not sharing their gender delusions (even if you have to choose more sensitive phrasing) and finding out if they still accept you or not despite that.

If they can't accept you the way you are and try to force you to change your beliefs, they're trying to indoctrinate you into the queer cult and you should flee immediately before you end up buttfucking their tranny friend who's sad because straight men aren't attracted to "her."

Edit: Typo

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Do you care if they think you're a transphobe? That's what matters mostly. I'm sure one of my circles thinks I'm some kind of horrendous transphobe like Rowling who wants to genocide any trans woman they see and can't hold back their spittle flecked rage at the idea of someone being trans just because I oppose the illogic and totalitarian nature of the cult as well as doing anything to children. Yet I'm actually to their "left" when it comes to adults as I don't really think there should be as much "gatekeeping" or requirements of dysphoria diagnosis or so on to play the system, if adults want to fuck up their genitals because they're nuts whatever man, do what you want. (Ideally, I'd like to not pay for it but that ship has seem to have sailed.) I just don't think it's "transphobic" (especially so broadly to encompass almost anything) to make fun of weirdos who say insane things and I don't think other people have a duty to affirm anyone's beliefs.

That's where the disagreement is, and I think even a place like the Kiwi Farms which is seen as riddled with transphobes gets agitated more at this kind of cultist mentality which says no trans person can ever be criticized in any way and definitely not be made fun of for being insane. If troons, and their braindead allies, didn't insist on demanding others constantly affirm them then a lot of people wouldn't give a shit. That was how the mainstream gay rights movement won everything, nobody else had to really do anything to accept them just had to stop denying equality, and now just a little over a decade later gay marriage has like supermajority support. I'm not talking about the extremists who think if you're not barebacking dudes in the street you're a sell out to queer culture, they fucking hate that the gay marriage movement succeeded. The troons seem closer to them, especially with their inability to stop being sex obsessed freaks, which they view as a replacement for having an individual personality.

 

[Hankypanko]

I've been there, and I can say that in spite of me being a disgusting dirty bigot I've still got very woke friends, troonery included. Sometimes knowing weird people is fun. The issue is this: if all they have is the SJW shit, and that's all they ever talk about, then fuck them. That's dullard shit. They've got to go.

Best advice I've got is to openly state that you don't care. Not that you disagree (that comes later), but that it's completely boring to you and you'd rather talk about literally anything else. Talking about politics is for fucking politicians, I'm not a psychologist and neither are you, none of us are philosophers, why are you stressing it? Best thing you can do is keep your opinion close to your chest and know as little as possible about the Hot Topic du jour as you can. Either they shut up about it or they hate you.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Sneak little hints in until they come out to you as trans "phobic" instead.

 

[BunnyMim]

Drop them. Seriously. My life became much more relaxed once I dropped the wokeshit friends I still had. Hanging out with people older than you is invaluable as well.

 

[Lobotomite Hot Gaming]

I've been there, and I can say that in spite of me being a disgusting dirty bigot I've still got very woke friends, troonery included. Sometimes knowing weird people is fun. The issue is this: if all they have is the SJW shit, and that's all they ever talk about, then fuck them. That's dullard shit. They've got to go.

Best advice I've got is to openly state that you don't care. Not that you disagree (that comes later), but that it's completely boring to you and you'd rather talk about literally anything else. Talking about politics is for fucking politicians, I'm not a psychologist and neither are you, none of us are philosophers, why are you stressing it? Best thing you can do is keep your opinion close to your chest and know as little as possible about the Hot Topic du jour as you can. Either they shut up about it or they hate you.

This is for me too, I either tell them I don't give a shit or just hide it. Easier than you'd anticipate, even for an autistic retard like myself.

 

[HunterHearstHelmsley]

First of all, since that gets mentioned a lot:

-phobe doesn't necessarily mean being afraid of something.

phobia
/ˈfəʊbɪə/
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something

Stand proud to being a transphobe. There is no weakness or irrationality in it.

Nigga you need to work on your reading comprehension, the etymology is clearly saying that homophobia is an irrational disorder. I strongly believe that the failure of normal people to propose an alternative word for the concept of not supporting faggots played no small part in the changing of hearts and minds on this topic. Homophobia as typically used is really a misnomer but there’s no alternative word so I agree that it’s not a point worth making.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

If you're scared these people will turn on you when they know how you think, then 1. They are not, and they never will be, your friends and 2. Get out of that social circle. Fucking run.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

*transphiliaphobia

 

[Shig O'nella]

Why do you want to?
There is nothing wrong with keeping your own counsel and ignoring shit that bores you, so why do you feel the need to tell your social circle?

Note: I really don't give a shit about the answer, but you do probably need to think about that for a while.