Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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How come it looks like there's a bunch of static tanks and APCs just standing there taking fire, at extremely close range, doing absolutely nothing?
What caused that before the clip started?
Armored warfare is one of those really weird and scary beasts. On the one hand, your own field of view is very heavily limited compared to an infantryman, restricted by periscopes and camera turn speeds. Compounding this, unless a vehicle is on fire, it is often difficult to distinguish between an abandoned one and one that is wrestling with its own limited visibility trying to find you, and people don't tend to be keen on waiting to find out. This is one of those very classic ways that tank kill numbers get inflated: the first vehicle comes along and shoots it until the crew bails out, then at some point later another comes across the same tank and shoots it until it catches fire. Both crews go on to claim a kill each, and presto, you've got magic inflating kill numbers.
 
Plebbit got another Ukrainian squad killed.

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Having reddittards on your side is worse than engaging with the actual enemy

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Tried to look up /u/slava_ukraini_live

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5 more days guys!

The clock has been updated.

3 more days guys! Russia's running out of everything on Friday!
I'll go ahead and throw the bucket of cold water on this one. Anyone memeing the countdown as Russia running out of everything is doing it wrong and I will join in laughing at them, because the original 10-day countdown was a prediction from a retired 3-star (making the usual concession that he could be wrong), headed to the point where Russia could no longer press the attack effectively. A historical comparison would be when Germany's fuel reserves ran out in the Winter of '41-'42, and from there on was only able to provide supply to move one of its three army groups at any given time. Word on /k/ is that Moscow's own estimate is that they can keep the offensive up to May 9th. My own prediction is that unless the Russians find a way to unfuck their situation, mid-April looks to be when a combination of supply issues and Ukrainian mobilization bogs them down, and if they haven't fixed their shit by mid-June, they're going to be down to a table full of options they'd really rather avoid taking.
 
I hope sequences playing as a brave hohol freedom fighter doesn't become a trope in videogames after this.
This specific war will become irrelevant in 99% of the heads of westerners so fast you won't even be able to blink. They always move on to the next thing. Ask any of the guys who put the french flag filter over their avatars if they remember any of the details of why they participated in that.
 
Fucking bug men really make me MATI. once again they got a squad killed because of their crippling addiction to "updoots" and even when called out on it they will just brush it off with "you watch too much CSI bro" but the fucking gem is "people die in war deal with it" fucking retatds you got them killed and thats your fucking response?
 
pretty interesting that the most consequential front and double encirclement of 60% of uke forces in the east get no airtime in the white media
They're largely national guard or local militia. It would be their job to withstand siege, drive back an invader if possible, but mainly to stay where they are, that is, not normally mobile. The 60% stat would need actual evidence to be accepted.

Update from sniper man who was reported dead but didn't actually die

Well the community sacrifice sheep was useful then.

Is the rumor about Polacks leading a peacekeeping force to "secure" western Ukraine i.e. rightful Polish clay Galicia real? Can we just partition Ukraine already and call it a day?
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If that's all, the Polacks lack ambition. This has to be the target. Nothing less. Do they want to shame their ancestors, the winged hussars?
 
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Armored warfare is one of those really weird and scary beasts. On the one hand, your own field of view is very heavily limited compared to an infantryman, restricted by periscopes and camera turn speeds. Compounding this, unless a vehicle is on fire, it is often difficult to distinguish between an abandoned one and one that is wrestling with its own limited visibility trying to find you, and people don't tend to be keen on waiting to find out. This is one of those very classic ways that tank kill numbers get inflated: the first vehicle comes along and shoots it until the crew bails out, then at some point later another comes across the same tank and shoots it until it catches fire. Both crews go on to claim a kill each, and presto, you've got magic inflating kill numbers.
Whatever armored doctrine Russia is currently using it seems to be some weird outdated WW2 bullshit. Most of the west has adopted a long range mobile fire and evasion style of armored warfare with lesser focus on things like static fire positions or cavalry style raids, and for good reason.

We've seen the Russians doing full on armored columns in enemy territory which we've only seen from the west when they wanted to be big fat juicy target for enemy fire (Force Recon). They seem to be using full on armored break-through maneuvers which even by the end up WW2 were starting to be outdated. We're seeing them do full on CQC Urban Tank combat, which you would think the Russians especially would have figured out by now that it's a bad idea and that they should avoid it. The only thing i haven't seen so far is a Russian tank ramming a Ukranian tank.

At the very least they seem to be supported by counter-battery fire and infantry but that's like baseline.
 
Fucking bug men really make me MATI. once again they got a squad killed because of their crippling addiction to "updoots" and even when called out on it they will just brush it off with "you watch too much CSI bro" but the fucking gem is "people die in war deal with it" fucking retatds you got them killed and thats your fucking response?
stop gatekeeping combat that's ableism
 
Remember how media always says that Putin draws his ratings however he wants?
Suddenly, that’s totally not the case. Got a narrative to uphold.
Either Putin is a savage dictator that holds his people hostage or the Russians genuinely support him and are bloodthirsty monsters.

The sacrifices must be delivered to the narrative, consciousness be damned.
 
Something from a Ukrainian fighter pilot.



Observation: In any war/campaign, the side that's losing always stresses their successes/perceived enemy defeats. They downplay their losses and stress their sacrifice. We did it in the Philippines after Pearl Harbor. No difference here. Are the Ukrainians losing? Yes, but not quickly, and not by leaps and bounds. It's a grind now. At the rate things are going, we could see some stabilization soon. Surrounding and besieging cities, not to mention house-to-house fighting, sucks up a lot of troops/equipment. Even if this war were to end today, Russia will still have lost on the world stage. The vaunted Russian steamroller ran out of steam quickly. They planned to fight another 2014 but got a rude awakening. Generals get killed because they HAVE to go up front and direct operations; junior and mid-grade officers apparently not allowed to use flexibility and initiative. Russia has lost a lot of generals and colonels in just a few weeks, and they have lost even more troops. And their loved ones wonder why they died. Am sure Uke losses have been heavy but these people are perceived as sacrificing themselves for the nation.
“Even when we lose, we win!”
 
Since people seem to conveniently forget that Iraq invasion was an equal shitshow to the Russian antics today:

Welded on armor for vehicles:
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Unarmored humvees in woodland camo no roof, enjoy that sunburn soldier!
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I don't know how I would provide pictures of troops lacking food, batteries and even ammo in some cases, but it did happen. The main highway leading to Baghdad was littered with thousands of MRE just tossed out of windows and there was fucking units walking along picking them up looking for food. It was absolutely ridiculous, fuel shortages abound, retarded pilots attacking our own units as just another tidbit of joy that was forgotten as well.
So the difference is that the Iraqi military was too garbage-tier to take advantage of America's fuckups?
 
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