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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Putin Adviser Chubais Quits Over Ukraine War and Leaves Russia​

  • Respected longtime reformer had been Kremlin’s climate envoy
  • Few senior insiders have gone public opposing invasion

Russian climate envoy Anatoly Chubais has stepped down and left the country, citing his opposition to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the situation, becoming the highest-level official to break with the Kremlin over the invasion.
Chubais, 66, is one of the few 1990s-era economic reformers who’d remained in Putin’s government and had maintained close ties with Western officials. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Known as the architect of Russia’s 1990s privatizations, Chubais gave Putin his first Kremlin job in the mid-1990s and initially welcomed his rise to power at the end of that decade. Under Putin, Chubais took top jobs at big state companies until the president named him envoy for sustainable development last year.

Since the war, the government has stepped up pressure on domestic critics of the invasion. Putin warned on March 16 that he would cleanse Russia of the “scum and traitors” he accuses of working covertly for the U.S. and its allies. Facing economic meltdown, the Russian leader accused the West of wanting to destroy Russia.
“Any people, and particularly the Russian people, will always be able to tell the patriots from the scum and traitors and spit them out like a midge that accidentally flew into their mouths,” Putin said. “I am convinced that this natural and necessary self-cleansing of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to meet any challenge.”
Last week, Arkady Dvorkovich, who was senior economic adviser to Dmitry Medvedev during his presidency and a deputy prime minister until 2018, stepped down as head of the state-backed Skolkovo technology fund after condemning the invasion. Dvorkovich, who’s also president of the International Chess Federation, is one of only a few former senior officials to speak out against the war.

This is a big happening, as Chubais has been a part of the Russki machine since the beginning and he was one of the architects of the transition of Russia from the planned economy. He also held Russians in contempt, famously uttering a phrase about people who "didn't fit the market" in a conversation about Russian depopulation trends.
 
It is an argument, however, I used this as a characterization of your apparent personality on the website. I didn't say try to argue about anything with you.

That being said, an old fart like you recommending me to go back to reddit is kind of hilarious. Were you there for the Eternal September or have you come to the Internet when it became a normie zone?
Still no argument. Just name calling. Are you 12 years old?
 
Who says I'm arguing with you, gramps? Take your prune juice and contribute to this thread in meaningful ways and if you happen to see me acting like you, that is, like a nigger, feel free to call me out on it.
Why do you support Nazis?

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November 21, 2013 – February 21, 2014: This was the revolution/coup (call it what you want) but it's when the democratically elected government was removed from power without an election, and an interim government was installed unconstitutionally.

brah, .... elected government = president + parliament

Yanuk left to Russia on his own, called Russian troops to invade and pacify localized protests that were way smaller than 2022 Kazahstan. It was a dumb move even for Russians. Read Yanuk bio ... he is a hat snatcher - thief who was convicted three times and did time, a felon and a dumb dude even among other dumb criminals. His decisions and instinct to run at first noise made it possible.

The whole parliament stayed as it was.

Try to reconcile facts a little at a time, in your head.

One hears a lot about skill economy and the risen value of "human capital". We might see the effects with the invasion already. Actually I am pretty sure of it. But this brain drain will fuck Russia up in the long term, right?

Russia pumps natural resources, some factories assemble things, but manipulating 1s and 0s is the ultimate markup economy. All you need is a bunch of smart dudes and pipeline of Mt Dew and you can get people working for practically Western salaries and living in third world countries.

By guestimates, 50-70 thousands of IT dudes already left to Armenia (friendly to Russia but no sanctions) and Georgia (not friendly to Russia) and already started to annoy locals. That's going to be a huge hit for Russian economy tax wise. You have a cash cow that costs nothing to maintain, but produces steady stream of cash in decent amounts.

It's so hilarious to see a Pole simp for the Russians. Don't Poles hate Russians? If he spoke in favor of Putin in his homeland, the natives would tear him to shreds.

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit, if there was one sore spot ..... If any one read Jack London ... the bad blood runs superdeep going as far back as anyone remembers. But certainly in the last 100 years we got Polish-Soviet war trying to expand communism that Poles fought tooth and nail, the betrayal and butchery of 20'000+ Polish POWs by Stalin, the betrayal and subsequent mental rape of Poland ... and those are big ones.

Of course who can forget Russians literally blew up the plane of Polish pres, his wife, 20 parliament members and high ranking military . ... basically, I have no idea why would russophobia exist in Poland. It's like the russian neighbors hate Russia for no reason at all, those damned nazis!


So far as I know this is recent pic and legit. I shit you not. Fucking Maxim ....

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By the time this war is over, I want to see some cavalry charge with sabres high!

please russiabros, this would make this mad fantasy complete: (especially that military orchestra unit has been KIA)

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One hears a lot about skill economy and the risen value of "human capital". We might see the effects with the invasion already. Actually I am pretty sure of it. But this brain drain will fuck Russia up in the long term, right?

Their economy is mostly based on resources. Mostly fossil fuels. Most of which are out of their way. Thanks to the invasion as well. The EU is going overdrive on green energy investments. Germany is even considering to ramp up it's nuclear reactors.
There is always China. But China has shown that it is willing to put on pressure if it wants to. There is the Australian coal issue for example where China willingly stopped importing Australian coal and used their own Chinese, lower quality coal. Which all the downsides that was bringing.
So those nice profit margins with gas and co might become a thing of the past for Russia.

Might be an interesting trainwreck to watch.
I would think a lot of Russians would have left already if they could have. Immigration isn't really as simple as a lot of people make it out to be unless countries create special exceptions. The US has a fairly deranged setup with how it allows illegal immigration that I think warps a lot of peoples' perception of how immigration is done.

NFKRZ did a video about how he left Russia and commented on how it isn't like he can get a visa to stay in Germany or some place like that too easily so he instead went to Georgia. A brain drain of Russia would probably be fairly easy to enable, but it'd require countries to allow pretty much any Russian to come on in if they so desire which I think many countries are against since it's hard enough dealing with what migrants they already have.
 
I would think a lot of Russians would have left already if they could have. Immigration isn't really as simple as a lot of people make it out to be unless countries create special exceptions. The US has a fairly deranged setup with how it allows illegal immigration that I think warps a lot of peoples' perception of how immigration is done.

NFKRZ did a video about how he left Russia and commented on how it isn't like he can get a visa to stay in Germany or some place like that too easily so he instead went to Georgia. A brain drain of Russia would probably be fairly easy to enable, but it'd require countries to allow pretty much any Russian to come on in if they so desire which I think many countries are against since it's hard enough dealing with what migrants they already have.
Good for NFKRZ
 
Brings more news than most of the other posts. Russia bad over and over isn't news.



You're a Nazi and racist is not an argument. Funny how the left is so pro war all the time. Maybe Reddit is more to your liking.
No one is pro war here, we are for Ukraines right to defend itself against Russia who started this war by illegally invading for no justifiable reason and the killing of many civilians including children by them.
 
No one is pro war here, we are for Ukraines right to defend itself against Russia who started this war by illegally invading for no justifiable reason and the killing of many civilians including children by them.
Contrary to whatever ruskis in the alternate thread are saying about me, I am not pro-war and I don't really want anyone to die for anyone. That being said, if it chaps their ass that I despise Russians for (at least in my opinion) justifiable reasons, then it makes me wonder if we're all on the same website and if Russians have become a protected group.
 
Contrary to whatever ruskis in the alternate thread are saying about me, I am not pro-war and I don't really want anyone to die for anyone. That being said, if it chaps their ass that I despise Russians for (at least in my opinion) justifiable reasons, then it makes me wonder if we're all on the same website and if Russians have become a protected group.

I used to joke that these people were on Kremlin payroll but the uncomfortable fact is that Kiwifarms is banned in Russia

There's no monetary compensation. These people are simping for a murderous dictator FOR FREE. How pathetic is that?
 
I used to joke that these people were on Kremlin payroll but the unfortunate fact is that Kiwifarms is banned in Russia

There's no monetary compensation. These people are simping for a murderous dictator FOR FREE. How pathetic is that?
Pretty sure the Russian wumao party is allowed to circumvent restrictions to shitpost.

That being said, those, who are not ethnically Russian and/or don't have any ties to Russia and simp for Russia are a combination of a bored housewife and a rebellious teenager. They must be edgy and moralize at the same time.
 
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The USA and EU discovering that the dollar and the euro are worthless when you dont have oil, gas or wheat
The US is the biggest oil producing nation in the world.

Russia being a little bitch does cause problems with the markets, but they're not as integral to the world economy as they may have hoped.

Actual gas prices that people are suffering from in many parts is due to markets trying to stabilize after Rona lockdowns and there also is the matter of the world dealing with the aftermath of a price competition that was taking place to try and fuck over the US oil industry. Like if the price of oil or gas gets too low it can stop being worthwhile to drill/frack or refine. So you had OPEC attempting to fuck everything to hell to push the US out, which looks to have failed for the most part given the US is still such a major producer.
 
That being said, those, who are not ethnically Russian and/or have any ties to Russia and simp for Russia are a combination of a bored housewife and a rebellious teenager. They must be edgy and moralize at the same time.
Yeah for sure. Russian propaganda somehow manages to appeal to retards on both sides of the extreme political horseshoe. Never in my life did I expect to see unironic Tankies and Nazis come together to support an issue but they both seem to be in a competition to see who can fondle Putin's balls the hardest

Commies think they're fighting the capitalist system. /pol/ thinks they're fighting globohomo
They're both wrong but it's facinating to see them agree on something. It's like watching one of those retard weddings.

Of course no normal person cares about these weird fringe political theories. The simple truth is that if you're living in the west and you support Russia it's statistically likely that you're a loser in real life
 
"Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov met yesterday with the ambassadors of #BRICS countries to Russia."

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Putin wants 'unfriendly' countries to pay for Russian gas in roubles​

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"I have decided to implement a set of measures to transfer payment for our gas supplies to unfriendly countries into Russian rubles," Putin said during a televised government meeting, ordering the changes to be implemented within a week.​


Russia will seek payment in roubles for gas sales from “unfriendly” countries, President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday, sending European gas prices soaring on concerns the move would exacerbate the region’s energy crunch.

European countries' dependence on Russian gas and other exports has been thrown into the spotlight since Moscow's Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine and the subsequent imposition of Western sanctions aimed at isolating Russia economically.

"Russia will continue, of course, to supply natural gas in accordance with volumes and prices ... fixed in previously concluded contracts," Putin said at a televised meeting with top government ministers.

"The changes will only affect the currency of payment, which will be changed to Russian roubles," he said.

Russian gas accounts for some 40% of Europe's total consumption and EU gas imports from Russia have fluctuated between 200 million to 800 million euros ($880 million) a day so far this year. The possibility a change of currency could throw that trade into disarray sent some European and British wholesale gas prices up around 15-20% on Wednesday.

The Russian rouble briefly leapt to a three-week high past 95 against the dollar before settling close to 100 after the shock announcement.

Putin said the government and central bank had one week to come up with a solution on how to move these operations into the Russian currency and that gas giant Gazprom would be ordered to make the corresponding changes to gas contracts.

With major banks reluctant to trade in Russian assets, some big Russian gas buyers in the European Union were not immediately able to clarify how they might pay for gas going forward.

"At the moment, we do not yet wish to comment. We will be in touch once we have formed an opinion," said a spokesman at Germany's Uniper.

Moscow calls its actions in Ukraine a "special military operation" to disarm and "denazify" its neighbour. Ukraine and Western allies call this a baseless pretext for a war of choice that has raised fears of wider conflict in Europe.

A BREACH OF RULES

According to Gazprom, 58% of its sales of natural gas to Europe and other countries as of Jan. 27 were settled in euros. U.S. dollars accounted for about 39% of gross sales and sterling around 3%.

The European Commission has said it plans to cut EU dependency on Russian gas by two-thirds this year and end its reliance on Russian supplies of the fuel "well before 2030".

But unlike the United States and Britain, EU states have not agreed to sanction Russia's energy sector, given their dependency.

The Commission, the 27-country EU's executive, did not immediately respond to request for comment.

There are questions over whether Russia's decision constitutes a breach of contract rules.

"This would constitute a breach to payment rules included in the current contracts," said a senior Polish government source, adding that Poland has no intention of signing new contracts with Gazprom after their current long-term agreement expires at the end of this year.

Russia drew up a list of "unfriendly" countries, which corresponds to those that imposed sanctions. Among other things, deals with companies and individuals from those countries have to be approved by a government commission.

The list of countries includes the United States, European Union member states, Britain, Japan, Canada, Norway, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland and Ukraine.

Some of these countries, including the United States and Norway, do not purchase Russian gas.


Fast-food chains are trying to shut down their Russian locations but rogue franchise owners are refusing to close them​


As Russia and Ukraine square off with each other, and the rest of the world square off against Russia, a third front in this troubling war is brewing: The fight between American food-and-beverage conglomerates who want to cease operations in the Russian Federation and the Russian franchisees who are saying "Da Nyet!" in reply.

McDonald's, Starbucks, Papa Johns and the owner of Burger King, among others, have said that they would either shut down operations in the country or pull support from restaurants there. Making good on those promises, however, is proving easier said than done.

Take, for example, Burger King. Restaurant Brands International says it has pulled corporate support from the roughly 800 Burger King locations in Russia. But it can't force those locations to close. That's because they aren't operated by the company — instead, they're controlled by an operator who, according to RBI, has "refused" to close the restaurants.
Some Russian McDonald's restaurants are reportedly still open, too, even after the company said it was closing its Russian locations...
Okay, real talk: If you're a major global corporation, and your franchise owners are humiliating you on the world stage like this, do you just lie back and take it? Or do you assemble an elite mercenary strike team to go into the bear-infested wasteland of Siberia to take care of business?

Well, actually, I guess you just kinda lie back and take it.

I mean it's not THAT big of a deal.
Anyway, one expert believes this whole controversy could lead to a shakeup in the franchising industry:
"I suspect that there's going to be some changes by some franchisors to at least try to have more power in this type of situation," he said. That could mean "requiring operators to close, even if it's just for a limited time."

But, he added, it'll be hard to come up with a contract like that.

Maybe. But I have a depressing suspicion that, after all this is over, Russian franchise owners will take any terms they can get.​


 

You're late, faggot. This happened nearly a month ago.

And you seem to be conveniently forgetting that none of these measures would be necessary if their country wasn't getting invaded from every angle by a hostile neighbor. Everything you see happening in Ukraine is Putin's fault and none of your pathetic attempts to paint Russians as liberators will convince anyone that isn't already thoroughly brainwashed
 
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