Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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Convince me on why I should turncoat on the west and support Russia on this issue as someone who does not give a fuck about moral rights.
failed states like the ukraine deserve to be invaded and demolished as an example of how shitty governance has consequences. after WWII the american-led order let all manner of corruption and degeneracy flourish and subsumed armed conflict behind weaponizing your currency to kill innocent children.
 
china should pull an uno card and retake manchuria it would be funny
failed states like Russia deserve to be invaded and demolished as an example of how shitty governance has consequences. after WWII the Soviet-led order let all manner of corruption and degeneracy flourish and subsumed armed conflict behind weaponizing your currency to kill innocent children.
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Why? I do not live in Russia why the fuck would I choose to support a war effort of theirs for a country that clearly has western corruption and interests going on in it? Convince me on why I should turncoat on the west and support Russia on this issue as someone who does not give a fuck about moral rights.
Maybe type in coherent sentences and ask a salient question, you mongoloid.

If you are looking for fangled geopolitical hackery and opinion, send a PM to JosephStalin. He will help you out.

Just kidding Stalin, don't Gulag me Bro.
 
I seriously doubt that's Putin's goal. After all he's stated time and time again, he doesn't consider Ukraine to be a real country and that it's "Russian land" might as well take the whole thing under your control now that's he's at war with Ukraine, put up a puppet, and annex it in a decade or two.
So.. before the invasion he gave Zelensky an ultimatum. After the invasion the peace treaty is the same as the ultimatum. The last time Putin spoke on what he wants for peace is the same as the ultimatum. We know what his demands have been and are currently and they haven't changed. But you don't believe him. Ok bruh... Reminds me of Trump talking about how he thought this was all negotiating tactics. Non Americans are not Americans. They don't think or act like Americans. Russia has told the world what they would do for decades. Putin has told the world what he would do and what he wants. I don't think there's a lot of subterfuge and double entendres in what Russians say. They tend to be a blunt people in general.

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I seriously doubt that's Putin's goal. After all he's stated time and time again, he doesn't consider Ukraine to be a real country and that it's "Russian land" might as well take the whole thing under your control now that's he's at war with Ukraine, put up a puppet, and annex it in a decade or two.
The "demiliterization" and "denazitification" goals itself already suggested Putin wanted to control all of Ukraine

Also that rant of an "essay" and the 50 minutes televised rambling
 
For all the talk of how bad China's birth rate is nobody is looking at the US' birth rate if you don't include immigration. Don't even look at Chinese vs Amerimut birth rate. Take out the latinos + the blacks and I seriously don't know if it's at 1.
That's mostly because the way China's one child policy fucked over their demographics is quite notable. It's also not the US' problem to fix, meaning it can be brought up in passing without usually provoking an argument. Otherwise falling birthrates are a common modern problem in developed countries. It doesn't receive much attention because the people in charge would rather prop things up with immigration in most places, rather than address the actual issues causing lower birthrates.
 
failed states like the ukraine deserve to be invaded and demolished as an example of how shitty governance has consequences. after WWII the american-led order let all manner of corruption and degeneracy flourish and subsumed armed conflict behind weaponizing your currency to kill innocent children.
So basically you never answered my question and you are bringing up rehashed Pro-Russian points that apply one way. Like imagine saying to Russia that if they were invaded by NATO they and their allies should just roll over and take it up the ass.

Maybe type in coherent sentences and ask a salient question, you mongoloid.

If you are looking for fangled geopolitical hackery and opinion, send a PM to JosephStalin. He will help you out.

Just kidding Stalin, don't Gulag me Bro.
Nice way to dodge the question initially asked because really you have no good answer for it.
 
failed states like the ukraine deserve to be invaded and demolished as an example of how shitty governance has consequences. after WWII the american-led order let all manner of corruption and degeneracy flourish and subsumed armed conflict behind weaponizing your currency to kill innocent children.

china should pull an uno card and retake manchuria it would be funny

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But why not both?
 
The Shah loved kikes, Recognized Isn'treal and if Khomeni had not seized power from the Jew Lover then Iran today would be run by LGBTIAIDS people demanding that everyone suck their girldicks like America is today. And it was not the Ayatollahs, It was Western Sanctions that harmed Iran, The West could drop the sanctions at any time but since the US of AIDS is the eternal enemy of all morality they will not allow that to happen.

But no I guess not allowing women to run around barely clothed and not letting children troon out is the greater evil than keeping millions in poverty that can be easily ended with the stroke of a pen.
You forgot the head chopping and ultimate authoritarianism.
 
If anyone else is a fan of Nicholas Moran (aka The Chieftan), he put out a video calling out a lot of the bullshit, including many shitty takes vomited in this very thread:


Glad to see someone whom I respect for their military historical knowledge and opinions continue to earn my respect.
 
I seriously doubt that's Putin's goal. After all he's stated time and time again, he doesn't consider Ukraine to be a real country and that it's "Russian land" might as well take the whole thing under your control now that's he's at war with Ukraine, put up a puppet, and annex it in a decade or two.
This is the fact of it. Ukraine isn't a country and the Russians have incurred too large a cost to settle with what they had before the war even if it was. Thinking that Putin will bail with Donetsk and Lugansk is ridiculous. The likeliest solution is that most of it gets annexed and Galicia gets turned into a rump state that we'll continue to economically torture ourselves to support while suffering Zelensky on TV and speaking engagements for years to come. If Putin does annex it, the same will apply, except said support will be going to the government in exile so we can continue becoming poorer on behalf of Uncle Joe and the diaspora of plumbers which will continue to vote against any sort of normalization for years to come if we make the severe mistake of taking them in, or worse, giving them citizenship.
 
So.. before the invasion he gave Zelensky an ultimatum. After the invasion the peace treaty is the same as the ultimatum. The last time Putin spoke on what he wants for peace is the same as the ultimatum. We know what his demands have been and are currently and they haven't changed. But you don't believe him. Ok bruh... Reminds me of Trump talking about how he thought this was all negotiating tactics. Non Americans are not Americans. They don't think or act like Americans. Russia has told the world what they would do for decades. Putin has told the world what he would do and what he wants. I don't think there's a lot of subterfuge and double entendres in what Russians say. They tend to be a blunt people in general.

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Price will go up though, as the puppet-in-chief refuses the current demands, and the Russkies make and fortify territorial gains.
 
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The sole reason Ukraine was a founding member of the U.N. was due to Stalin's demand that all 16 republics (Including the Krealo-Finnish SSR which was created solely to facilitate a annexation of Finland) be given seats in addition to the seat for the USSR itself on the grounds they were nominally sovereign states, especially because at the founding the UN there were only 5 communist states in the world and they wanted to balance out the votes in the general assembly

The U.S. was fiercely opposed to this making a counter demand for all 48 states to be given seats on the same grounds due to them being sovereign states under the 10th amendment, but the British convinced the U.S. to compromise to allowing 2 Soviet Republics to join so the USSR wouldn't block membership of Canada, India and New Zealand which were still under the sovereignty of the United Kingdom, supposedly the U.S. was given the option of granting seats to two states but it was never acted on.

Also let me remind you who was the leader of the Ukrainian SSR in 1945 at the founding of the UN: It was Nikita Khrushchev, who is a ethnic Russian, born in Russia, and lived in Russia until he joined the Red Army during the revolution, worked at a mine in Donetsk, then moved to Moscow in 1929 and became secretary of Moscow Oblast in 1934 directly under Stalin, carrying out the great purges by ordering the execution of thousands of people, he was so good at executions that Stalin personally appointed him head of the Communist Party of Ukraine in 1937 and within 3 months of arriving in Kiev he had ordered the execution of so many members of the Ukrainian Communist party that their Central Committee couldn't even meet quorum with nearly every Political Official and Military Commander in Ukraine arrested and/or executed.

But yeah man Ukraine was a founding member of the U.N.
I appreciate your post, and while you're correct that Ukraine was only allowed as a founding member to appease the USSR, it doesn't change that yes, Ukraine was a founding member and that no, the U.N. still doesn't have any real authority. If we really wanted to be pedantic like this- it was the USSR that was given a seat on the security counsel, and after it's dissolution, it was kind of just assumed to Russia, in an even flimsier manner than when the PRC assumed China's seat. They could be ousted, or their presence in the security counsel at least brought to a vote- but the U.N. is a joke designed to keep nukes in their silos and not in the air, and that was my point. I just want to dismiss this absurd belief that the U.N. is anything but a glorified international chatroom.
 
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Since Ukraine is obviously the fairest and most transparent democracy in Europe it would be absurd to think that a huge chunk of military aid is just getting siphoned off to be resold after the war is over.
Russians are obliterating depots full of weapons almost daily, the Russian telegrams show the aftermath and there was a claim that one in Lviv had $400mil worth of weapons.

Normally I doubt numbers like that from the Russian side, or anything other than footage, but Lviv is furthest west city and likely the first stop for weapons moving to Kiev and the east, so it would make sense that the Russians throwing cruise missiles all the way over to Lviv is having an impact on all the Nato weapons.

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That being said, the NLAW's are also $40k a piece, Stingers can go for $80k+, I wouldn't doubt that they're being sold off either, perhaps its a combination of both.
 
Eh it's in Polands strategic interests not to have Ukraine fall to Russia, or at least to heavily bleed them. Similar to how Russia doesn't want nato closer to it, Poland definitely doesn't want Russia closer to it, or to have a second Russian puppet state on its borders.
Yes, but it'd be really funny if Zelensky somehow manages to survive/win and then stab Poland in the back for fucking their women.
 
If the war ends in an occupation of parts of Ukraine by Russia I wonder if we will see a creeping annexation like there is in Georgia

TLDR the Russians occasionally move the border fences that surround the Separatist Region of South Ossetia into Georgian Territory, thus increasing the size of South Ossetia. Why do they do this? I dunno, just to fuck with the Georgians? to give the Soldiers there something to do?

I personally see this is as much less likely seeing as that Georgia is a much less important country than Ukraine that most Americans cannot find on a map (I would wager that most Americans cannot find the State of Georgia on a map) and Ukraine is at the moment the current thing that normies care about, so any border fuckery will get them braying for nuclear war again.
 
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