Remember when Cover tried to pander to the Indonesian crowd by making the HoloID have Indo only streams at least once per week, and the EOPs at Reddit got mad because they wouldnt be able to understand them?
HoloID has always been in this constant state of limbo , not knowing what their audience is. People always treat them as Proto HoloEN.
They’re too Western for the Indonesian market yet their heavy SEA accents make them unfit for the Western Market
I certainly remember Risu seething as she put the schedule together, but I didn't stick around to learn how far that plan went (I imagine the answer is 'not very').
But I hope people don't misunderstand me. It's not a bad thing that they found a large EN fanbase, but it's not a criticism to acknowledge that fact, either. I was responding specifically to the notion that HoloID are on the cusp of suddenly blowing up after their HoloFes performance with the question of where they are hoping that engagement comes from.
You only need to check Socialblade trends (it's not perfect but it's tangible) to see that Ollie and Reine have had their worst months in terms of growth since the arrival of Council. It's not a coincidence that Anya, the one who did not appeal to EOPs in the first place, has not suffered the same results. In hindsight, you could say that Anya sacrificed EOP viewers and bloat in favour of consistency.
'Proto HoloEN' is very apt. 'EN' and 'ID' become irrelevant tags when everyone - even the management - knows they all want the same audience pool. 20 members vying for an EN audience but 9 of them are not called 'EN'. Reine and Ollie have 570K and 1m subs respectively but average the same viewers as Reimu nowadays.
I think they are doing fine tbh, it would be an interesting idea to fold them into a "Hololive worldwide" alongside the ENs but that wouldn't fundamentally change them.
I agree. The Top 6 Indo corpo V-Tubers all belong to Hololive, and their least popular member is twice the size of Nijisanji's most popular.
Which is kind of what I'm getting at. HoloID are huge entities. They have a combined 4.1m subs, and that's not including the new Gen that already have about 50K each (already 3x the amount of UPROAR!!! lmao). People aren't sleeping on them, they aren't watching them because the entire branch serves to tide EOPs over until the next EN generation. ID2 has served its purpose to the r/Holo crowd, and ID3 will do the same in 6-8 months from now.
