Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Sneed F91]

Put George in charge of JJ or Rian Johnson and what would we have gotten?

Probably nothing. Considering they're both self absorbed pricks they probably wouldn't have wanted to cooperate with George, let alone work under him. JJ is an OT purist who probably thinks George ruined SW (with the special editions and the PT) and would go out of his way not to listen to him because he would think his ideas are terrible, while Rian is just madly in love with himself and wouldn't listen to anyone else. other than his tard wrangler Ram Bergman.

Fagloni can't kill his darlings at the right moment.

I don't think George was sexually attracted to/obsessed with any of those characters like Dave is.

Put George Lucas in charge, give him a Disney size budge, and have him watched over by a sell out, corporate hack in his prime and you might just have gotten magic.

Basically if Michael Eisner's Disney bought Lucasfilm in the 90s?

It has to be. I can't imagine someone working night and day adding info nonstop for free like he does unless they're a bot, a shared LFL account, or a handicapped high functioning retard on government money with nothing better to do.

Whatever he is, the site is most definitely run by Disney. You needn't look further than all the fags who had their disney employee status on their user pages until suddenly removing them around 2018 or 2021.

Wookieeepedo lost its soul after Disney bought Star Wars anyways. The Fandom buyout killed a lot of really good wikis on top of that.

But in interviews post TPM, he didn't do anything to correct the misperceptions. Lucas didn't want to talk about fan backlash or perceptions, he wanted to talk about how cool it was he was shooting the movie with digital cameras, how great CGI was now, and a bunch of other film nerd shit.

So I found this clip with George talking about his thoughts on backlash from the critics and fans

I think he does have a point to some of his arguments, but some of it's damage control. The "it's for kids" argument was always dumb. Just like when Last Jedi-fags try to pull that 'space wizards for kids' bullshit whenever anyone criticizes their perfect masterpiece kino, a movie being for kids doesn't mean it's immune to criticism.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

I don't think George was sexually attracted to/obsessed with any of those characters like Dave is.

I dunno, George seemed pretty taken with Ayla Secura, enough to transition her from comics to screen because he loved her design so much (and even commissioned some erotic art of her, I shit you not).

And yet he had no qualms about killing her off once Ep. III rolled around, because he didn't want to take away the impact of Yoda and Obi-Wan being virtually the only survivors.

Basically if Michael Eisner's Disney bought Lucasfilm in the 90s?

Not gonna lie, if Eisner had been the one to have bought LFL, he probably would have pushed the brand to become more "cool" and "adult." That's the kind of mindset he had about everything.

We might have actually had stuff like NJO and Death Troopers make it to screen, or have some ABC drama based on Young Jedi Knights but with metric tons of "tubular teen attitude".

Of course, buying LucasFilm that early doesn't erase the inevitability of Bob Iger and Bob Chapek taking over the company at some point and ruining everything...so the outcome would've been the same.

 

[Uranus Pink]

I dunno, George seemed pretty taken with Ayla Secura, enough to transition her from comics to screen because he loved her design so much (and even commissioned some erotic art of her, I shit you not).

Breaking my balls Hans Mississippi, pics or search term please.

 

[Cactuar King]

I dunno, George seemed pretty taken with Ayla Secura, enough to transition her from comics to screen because he loved her design so much (and even commissioned some erotic art of her, I shit you not).

Was it that topless pic that used to be on Wookieepedia's article on boobs?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I feel bad for Hayden and Natalie and Ahmed.

Fuck Kathleen Kennedy with a spiked poison dildo tho.

 

[The Valeyard]

Doctor Aphra cringe found by @Positron in the Moviebob thread.

 

[anti SJW]

 

[Sneed F91]

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1. Disney being allowed to buy out an entire corporation as big as Fox had a negative impact the media landscape more than most crossover loving multiverse obsessed soylets will ever be able realize
2. Disney will either ignore Fox's IPs or use them to push political messaging with terrible reboots, sequels and remakes
3. It wasn't worth the rights to Star Wars and capeshit

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

Breaking my balls Hans Mississippi, pics or search term please.

Here you go. NSFW, obviously. The artist George commissioned for this piece is called Evan Wilson.

This isn't some closeted secret, either: this piece was included in an officially and publicly released hardcover compendium of artwork curated by Lucas himself, called Star Wars Art: Visions, which you can still buy today on the second-hand market.

I own the Star Wars Art: Comics compendium myself. Spoilers, it has a lot of Jan Duursema's official art for Darth Talon and Aayla Secura. As well as this privately commissioned double-paged art piece by comic and pin up artist Arthur Adams.

...Just another example of the kind of naughty art pieces willed into existence by Lucas for no other reason than he simply wanted it.

Man's got his priorities, I'll give him that.

 

[Miller]

Doctor Aphra cringe found by @Positron in the Moviebob thread.
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>Alyssa Wong
Isn't that the "writer" who only got a job at Marvel because she tried to get the current boss fired for using an asian pen name 20 years ago and now she's in charge of writing every story about an asian protagonist?

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I've played Ewok Hunt, those things can be spooky.

 

[Creep3r]

I've played Ewok Hunt, those things can be spooky.

They've been spooky cannibals since long before EAfront 2 you lurdo.

 

[Sneed F91]

Here you go. NSFW, obviously. The artist George commissioned for this piece is called Evan Wilson.

This isn't some closeted secret, either: this piece was included in an officially and publicly released hardcover compendium of artwork curated by Lucas himself, called Star Wars Art: Visions, which you can still buy today on the second-hand market.

I own the Star Wars Art: Comics compendium myself. Spoilers, it has a lot of Jan Duursema's official art for Darth Talon and Aayla Secura. As well as this privately commissioned double-paged art piece by comic and pin up artist Arthur Adams.

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...Just another example of the kind of naughty art pieces willed into existence by Lucas for no other reason than he simply wanted it.

Man's got his priorities, I'll give him that.

George is way more based than people give him credit for. I can imagine this art giving the female specimens who run Kennedyfilm a heart attack.

They've been spooky cannibals since long before EAfront 2 you lurdo.
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It's like the fans didn't realize they're supposed to be a bunch of violent savages and kept spouting "hurr durr dey care bears Star Wars is bad now" nonsense as far back as when ROTJ was considered the least good movie in the trilogy. I don't even think they made plush Ewok toys back when ROTJ came out. If George wanted to come up with something lazy with no purpose but to sell toys he could have just created Porgs.

 

[Adamska]

Or it could be that the Endor portions come off as the least good part of Jedi when compared to the opening act, the great space battle around Endor, and when Luke confronts Vader and the Emperor. Act 2 is super blahh by comparison.

Though the people who completely hate Ewoks are still dumb because there's a fun charm in having Threepio becoming their god and they honestly weren't the worst part of the film. Savage midget monsters were fine. Only real cringe was the sheer dumbness of the Storm Trooper battle where they wreck, because that was George axe grinding against the filthy fucking republicans by trying to blend Nam with Tarzan. There's also Han and Leia's role in the film, where they stand outside a blast door for most of the time in this act.

 

[The Valeyard]

>Alyssa Wong
Isn't that the "writer" who only got a job at Marvel because she tried to get the current boss fired for using an asian pen name 20 years ago and now she's in charge of writing every story about an asian protagonist?

Yes, that was her.

 

[Uranus Pink]

And to think if the Imperials inside the installation kept all the blast doors shut. There's was fuck all the rebels and ewoks could’ve done to get in and blow up the shield generator in time before the Rebel Fleet is destroyed.

 

[Sneed F91]

George is way more based than people give him credit for. I can imagine this art giving the female specimens who run Kennedyfilm a heart attack.

It's like the fans didn't realize they're supposed to be a bunch of violent savages and kept spouting "hurr durr dey care bears Star Wars is bad now" nonsense as far back as when ROTJ was considered the least good movie in the trilogy. I don't even think they made plush Ewok toys back when ROTJ came out. If George wanted to come up with something lazy with no purpose but to sell toys he could have just created Porgs.

Speaking of George, I was watching a random documentary about the life of Orson Welles and look who happens to show up

Or it could be that the Endor portions come off as the least good part of Jedi when compared to the opening act, the great space battle around Endor, and when Luke confronts Vader and the Emperor. Act 2 is super blahh by comparison.

Though the people who completely hate Ewoks are still dumb because there's a fun charm in having Threepio becoming their god and they honestly weren't the worst part of the film. Savage midget monsters were fine. Only real cringe was the sheer dumbness of the Storm Trooper battle where they wreck, because that was George axe grinding against the filthy fucking republicans by trying to blend Nam with Tarzan. There's also Han and Leia's role in the film, where they stand outside a blast door for most of the time in this act.

I think ROTJ has the highest highs and the lowest lows of the OT. It managed to properly pay off damn near everything from the previous two films. You can tell Lucas was getting tired of Star Wars at that point but managed to end it all mostly intact. Everything involving the end of Luke's journey was perfect. It ruined the stormtroopers by turning them into the dumbasses the plebs think they're supposed to be. George saying the Emperor is Nixon and comparing the rebels to the Vietcong just baffles me. A lot of people seriously underestimate just how difficult it is to end a trilogy properly, for reference just look at the disaster TROS ended up being in the end.

I wonder how different things would be if Leia wasn't Luke's sister and he went with introducing a new character in her place.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I wonder how different things would be if Leia wasn't Luke's sister and he went with introducing a new character in her place.

Too many characters grabbing screentime.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

I wonder how different things would be if Leia wasn't Luke's sister and he went with introducing a new character in her place.

If that had happened, we would've gotten twelve movies instead of six.

During and after ESB's production, Lucas' original plan was to have Luke's Sister be an entirely new character, one whose identity would be a mystery and cliff-hangar for the third film in the trilogy. At this stage, the plan was to have four trilogies: the original introducing Luke and the Rebellion, a sequel trilogy with Luke on a mythic quest to find his sister while the other heroes built the New Republic, a prequel trilogy about the original Republic's fall from democracy into dictatorship, and an epilogue trilogy about an older Luke Skywalker passing the mantle to a new generation of heroes.

But after the production of ESB taxed Lucas dramatically, combined with the divorce of his wife at the time, he started to lean into the idea about the then-named Revenge of the Jedi being the "final film" of the trilogy, and far more interested in making the next trilogy go back in time instead of forward. So he scrapped his sequel plans, and cleansed the "search for Luke's Sister" cliffhanger so that there wouldn't be any loose ends, in order to give the film a sense of finality.

He later entertained the "sequel" idea post Ep. III with a treatment involving Maul and Talon, and serving as an allegory for the Iraq War, but canned those plans as well. Elements from his "epilogue trilogy" were what would end up being used for his Ep. VII-IX drafts that he sold to Disney, only for those not be used at all.

Lucas has since stated that every version of an "aftermath" story to ROTJ was going to culminate in Luke passing the torch to a new generation of heroes, part of which would include Han and Leia's kids....stating that the saga was always supposed to be about "the father, the children, and the grandchildren." Which is one of the few things that the trajectory of the Expanded Universe has in common with Lucas' vision for a sequel...but that's a pretty major element.

One that Disney inexplicably opted to depart from by having only one grandchild for Anakin Skywalker, and then just killing him off to boot.

 

[Uranus Pink]

On a lighter note, more Star Wars humor.

 

[jspit2.0]

Here you go. NSFW, obviously. The artist George commissioned for this piece is called Evan Wilson.

This isn't some closeted secret, either: this piece was included in an officially and publicly released hardcover compendium of artwork curated by Lucas himself, called Star Wars Art: Visions, which you can still buy today on the second-hand market.

I own the Star Wars Art: Comics compendium myself. Spoilers, it has a lot of Jan Duursema's official art for Darth Talon and Aayla Secura. As well as this privately commissioned double-paged art piece by comic and pin up artist Arthur Adams.

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...Just another example of the kind of naughty art pieces willed into existence by Lucas for no other reason than he simply wanted it.

Man's got his priorities, I'll give him that.

George certainly liked to collect talent.

Too many characters grabbing screentime.

That's the ticket. Rise suffered because of it. By the time you get to the third movie in a trilogy; all your major characters should be introduced.