Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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Don't forget to peel the banana before you swallow it, dumbass lol

Retard, in what fucking dimension do you live where economies are not interconnected? Why do you think the petro$ is at thing, besides of DA JOOZ bullshit that single digit niggers like you like to spout?

Speaks the pussy fag on behalf of a country that causes more destabilization and fights its own retarded wars, forcing others to join them, then when shit actually matters doubles down onn, "well, it's your war now, we have a Build Back Better plan to work on."

Says the guy whose government is about to ban (((islamophbia))) on behalf of a somali pirate princess lol
Dude, you cannot be any more stupid even if you try harder

Retard, they only wanted the US, which was laundered on behalf of your 99 pronoun military. Why the fuck do you think you staid there for 20 fucking years? Because of the food or the cash being made?

Retard, you're literally living in a time when the fucking imperator of Russia says he's considering dropping nukes. What the fuck is wrong with you?

So is your fucking country. Retard, oh you poor, poor retard, look at your big cities, the negroes roaming rampant, stealing shit without punihsment, oh you of little no fucking brain left, you don't even need a war to live in a war like state anymore over your end. You stupid fag. You honestly think that if you fuck off from global event, which you yourselves caused, you're going to fix your own sinking ship?

Whatever, nigger. Go ask your mom whose your real dad.

Retard, how the fuck can your skull be this thick? Russia is the one calling to start the war. North Korea is testing rockets to aim at your yard, Iran is literally laughing at your incpability to stop them from getting nukes.
Retard, I literally cannot call you anything else, but a retard, America is literally spearing its ass to get a nuke from into it and you talks some kind of gibberish that you should rather do nothing about it.

You fucking stupid fuck. You fucking dumbass, it will get more expensive either of what is happening, that how the fucking economy works, you halfwit moron. And if you keep sucking your own cock, shit will not cost only more, there will be no more shit to buy since or transport, in your case.
So, if I understand this right, its a little hard to parse through the angry tears, but... if the US sends its troons to war with Russia on behalf of Ukraine, race relations in America will be solved and blacks wont riot or steal anymore and Iran and Korea's nukes with disappear and the world will finally be at peace once nuclear war with Russia happens.

But we've already sent the Redditors and I'm told Ukraine is #winning!

Dumbass, I could literally come to your house, fuck your mom, cook and eat your cat and by your logic it'd be better for you to keep sitting on your ass, because to get up would require effort. You stupid fuck. You have literally nothing to negotiate with.

Fuck. He got me good there.
And NotCatParty needs to stop being lazy and cowardly and go fight on the front lines like the not lazy and not cowardly MATI who's bravely fighting on the front lines of a Kiwi Farms containment thread.
 
Lol, 6 dudes took out 7 tanks and "countless" Russians?
Sure, Jan.
They've developed a foolproof strategy. It's rather simple and costs almost nothing. All you need are the following ingredients.
1: Black bread
2: Salted pork fat
3: Some kind of lethal poison
Combine all three and leave out next to a liter bottle of shitty beer and the Russians come running, granted since this is Ukraine there's no doubt been many friendly fire incidents.
 

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They've developed a foolproof strategy. It's rather simple and costs almost nothing. All you need are the following ingredients.
1: Black bread
2: Salted pork fat
3: Some kind of lethal poison
Combine all three and leave out next to a liter bottle of shitty beer and the Russians come running, granted since this is Ukraine there's no doubt been many friendly fire incidents.
Video of Reddit destroying Russian vehicles and soldiers with Dialators of Peace.

"I cherish peace with all my heart. I don’t care how many children, children, and children I need to dialate to get it."


This is a video released by Ukraine. They'd never release footage of a videogame and claim it was their IRL military victories.
 
So is your fucking country. Retard, oh you poor, poor retard, look at your big cities, the negroes roaming rampant, stealing shit without punihsment, oh you of little no fucking brain left, you don't even need a war to live in a war like state anymore over your end. You stupid fag.
See I enjoyed this bit, it gave me a chuckle and it was pretty creative. But...

You fucking stupid fuck. You fucking dumbass, it will get more expensive either of what is happening, that how the fucking economy works, you halfwit moron. And if you keep sucking your own cock, shit will not cost only more, there will be no more shit to buy since or transport, in your case.
Here I thought you were getting a little repetitive though. I mean it was still kind of funny, but I wasn't wowed, y'know? Also if you can't argue the economy point with @Feline Supremacist because you apparently have a teenager's understanding of economics and international trade, you would've been better served by just pretending she didn't say anything at all about it and hoping she didn't hammer the point on later. Then you wouldn't have those of us in the peanut gallery dunking on you for it either.

All in all, not your best work. But we're all here to learn, I guess.

Glory to Russia.
 
I want to make it known as a eurocuck that I do not want war with russia over ukraine and I want out of Mr.Nato wild ride.

Also my government has used the war to justify the massive price increase on everything.

A price increase that has been going since 2012.

Putin really is playing the long game.

Also there are articles asking the westerners to give more money to lgbtq people fleeing ukraine.
 
I want to make it known as a eurocuck that I do not want war with russia over ukraine and I want out of Mr.Nato wild ride.

Also my government has used the war to justify the massive price increase on everything.

A price increase that has been going since 2012.

Putin really is playing the long game.

Also there are articles asking the westerners to give more money to lgbtq people fleeing ukraine.
"Also there are articles asking the westerners to give more money to lgbtq people fleeing ukraine."

OMG, where do I sign up to donate my entire savings to these brave and diverse people!
 
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The morning started with my pet food supplier sending me an email titled "Good news! The pice on the item you're buying the most has gone down!"

I thought "this is indeed wonderful", because paying 7500 rub for what used to cost 5000 rub before the war was starting to put a dent in my budget.

Turns out the price went down to 8700 from 10 000. Welp.
 
Also the obviously being actually mad IRL. Breaking down crying screaming basically nothing but "FUCK YOU I HATE YOU!" like you're Anakin Skywalker is not winning and really just sad and pathetic.
Eh, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that. 'Pretending' to chimp out is also fun to do from time to time. And it's not like any of this Russia-Ukraine bullshit actually matters to anyone or is going to be of any consequence to real people, so why would he be upset about it IRL?
 
Got a couple of articles here that are of interest, archived because I don't want to give them more clicks:

Ukraine tells the US it needs 500 Javelins and 500 Stingers per day​

A surprisingly "just the facts" article from CNN of all places.
(CNN) — Ukraine has updated its extensive wishlist of additional military assistance from the US government in the past several days to include hundreds more anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles than previously requested, according to a document provided to CNN that details the items needed.

The Ukrainians have submitted similar lists in recent weeks but a recent request provided to US lawmakers appears to reflect a growing need for American-made Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and Javelin anti-tank missiles -- with Ukraine saying it urgently needs 500 of each, daily.

In both cases, Ukraine is asking for hundreds more missiles than were included in a similar list recently provided to US lawmakers, according to a source with knowledge of both requests.

The new list comes as the Ukrainians have claimed they face potential weapons shortages amid an ongoing Russian assault -- prompting some pushback from US and NATO officials who stress that more military aid is already going into the country.

By March 7, less than two weeks into Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the US and other NATO members had sent about 17,000 anti-tank missiles and 2,000 anti-aircraft missiles into Ukraine.

Since then, NATO countries, including the US, have kept the pipeline of weapons and equipment flowing, even as Russia has threatened to target the shipments.

The last of a US $350 million security assistance packaged approved in late February arrived in Ukraine within the last few days, a senior defense official said, while the next two packages totaling $1 billion have already started to arrive.

President Joe Biden said Thursday that "armor systems, ammunition and our weapons are flowing into Ukraine as I speak." The defense official said it would be "multiple flights over many days" to get the equipment to Eastern Europe before it enters Ukraine at multiple land border crossings.

Meanwhile, on Wednesday, the United Kingdom announced it would ship 6,000 more missiles, including anti-tank and high explosive weapons, to Ukraine, along with approximately $33 million in financial backing for the Ukrainian military.

The list provided to CNN details several other urgent needs, including: jets, attack helicopters and anti-aircraft systems like the S-300.
Two types of Russian-made jets are listed in the document, including one designed to provide close air support for troops on the ground. Ukraine has asked for 36 of each aircraft, according to the list provided to CNN.

Some lawmakers in Congress believe the US should provide Ukraine with the weapons they're requesting as quickly as possible.
Sen. Jacky Rosen, a Democrat from Nevada, visited Poland and Germany last weekend to meet with civil society organizations helping Ukrainian refugees who've arrived in those countries as well as US troops stationed abroad helping with humanitarian efforts.
Rosen said her biggest takeaway from the trip was the "sense of urgency" on the ground.

"They need all the tools to not just survive the war, but to win the war, so whether we provide them air-to-ground missiles, drones, all the military support," Rosen told CNN.

Ukraine’s Use Of Stinger And Javelin Missiles Is Outstripping U.S. Production​

Just as a warning, the article below has a lot of bullshit in it, but the headline is accurate. But the full article has been included for posterity.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine is reinforcing the value of simple, shoulder-fired missiles. As Western arsenals empty their stockpiles, flowing some 17,000 “fire-and-forget” missiles into Ukraine, the small rockets risk being consumed faster than the West can currently replace them.

As America focuses on shipping missiles into the fight, strategic thinkers are eyeing America’s vulnerable and aging missile industrial base, mulling the challenges of readying old production facilities to meet the unexpected demands of wartime production. Few realize that advanced Javelin anti-tank and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles are backed by an aged and insecure production infrastructure, riddled with potential bottlenecks, vulnerabilities, and supply challenges.

For air threats, America’s well-known portable antiaircraft missile, the FIM-92 Stinger, is out of production in the U.S. and cannot be replaced easily. The missile system was first produced in the 1970s, and with tens of thousands of updated Stingers sitting in the U.S. inventory, the missile wasn’t expected to be replaced until the 2030s. The Ukraine conflict may well change the supply calculations, forcing the United States to accelerate replacement plans.

The anti-tank FGM-148 Javelin started entering U.S. service in the mid-1990s, and, today, with 45,000 missiles produced or on order, plenty are available. In 2019, the Pentagon awarded the program, a joint venture between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, a contract for 2,100 advanced “F-Model” Javelins, that combine “multiple features such as blast fragmentation and high-explosive anti-tank into a single warhead,” allowing fighters to employ the Javelin against both armored and “soft” unarmored targets. With the first “F-Models” arriving in mid-2020, and a new, lighter-weight “G-Model” entering testing, Javelin production was winding down, replacing training rounds spent as U.S. soldiers worked with a missile set to be in U.S. service through 2050.

Today, the Javelin production line may merit reinvigoration. Production cuts have been substantial over the past decade: between FY 1999 and FY 2001, the U.S. procured some 9,848 Javelins, while, in the most recent three-year period (between FY 2020 and FY 2022), missile procurement shrank to a total of 2,037.

With reports suggesting that Ukraine forces expended 300 Javelins in the first week of the war, U.S. shoulder-fired missile production must to ramp up to keep up with consumption.

Root Out Single Points Of Failure​


One particular concern is the Iowa Army Ammunition Plant, near the small southeast Iowa town of Middleton, where melt-pour explosive experts craft Stinger and Javelin warheads. First opened in 1941, the plant has seen little investment since.

The facility is showing its age. In 2017, U.S. Rep. Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa), warned that the “nation’s primary large caliber ammunition melt-pour facility” was outdated, “requiring manual touch labor and lacking the adaptability needed for implementing new manufacturing technologies.” His concern—stemming from the facility’s history of lethal industrial accidents—was well-founded, and, in late 2018, the aging plant was rocked by an explosion.

That incident helped spark a wholesale renovation of the Army’s ammunition industrial base. In Iowa, old, unsafe structures are coming down and the sprawling site’s roads, rails, sewer system and other utilities are being replaced. In 2020, the Army held a groundbreaking for a centralized solid and hazardous waste facility. More improvements are on the way.

But the renovations, when coupled with added manufacturing demands, will stress one of America’s few small rocket warhead production lines. If more missiles are needed, the the plant will need to speed up, likely incorporating new and inexperienced workers. Mothballed equipment may need to be brought back online. And, if the Stinger replacement needs to be accelerated, the plant’s warhead production lines may need substantial retooling to address production of both missiles. That’s hard enough to do with an established plant, let alone one that is undergoing a wholesale renovation.

Realize Idyllic Iowa Is Now A Military Target​

If the conflict in Ukraine drags on, site security must increase as well. The Russian government has been quite pointed in threatening countries that aid Ukraine and has shown no qualms in expanding the Ukraine conflict, previously attacking critical munitions infrastructure in other countries.

The risk of Russian mischief in Iowa may be slight, but it is real. In 2021, investigators studying the movements of Russian assassination squads through Europe linked Russian agents to a decade-long string of mysterious explosions at Eastern European arms depots and munitions plants.

Securing the Iowa Army Ammunition Plant may not be simple. It is a sprawling, 19,011-acre facility, with only a small group of Army officials available to provide contract oversight. The plant itself is run by American Ordnance, a subsidiary of the privately owned Day and Zimmerman conglomerate, so additional security enhancements may well be tied to the Pentagon’s plodding contractual infrastructure. With the aged infrastructure and the prospect that additional manufacturing and rehabilitation demands will require recruitment of new, rather lightly-vetted employees, both cyber security and insider threat assessment capabilities may need more attention.

These security concerns are making their way into Iowa’s U.S. Senate race. One Democratic candidate, retired Admiral Mike Franken, cautioned, “Attacking an ammunition plant like Middletown’s, regardless of how secure it is, can be construed as victory even without a disruption to the facility if the attack is paired with a false social media effort. As it is, Iowa has a perfect setting for its ammunition facility. And as its next Senator, I will work to ensure that it is secure, up-to-date, and properly staffed and hardened.”

After thanking Middleton residents “for helping with the defense of the nation,” Franken urged wider investment in America’s munitions infrastructure, stating, “Redundancy in specialty warhead casting is something the services ought to consider. More cross-purposing of warhead and general munitions work should be enacted so that any disruption to a manufacturing line cannot be construed as a victory by an opposing entity. American military might, when called upon, should not be constrained by a lack of resiliency at home.”

500 ATGMs a day, let alone 500 Javelins a day is fucking insane. That kind of production just isn't done these days except for artillery shells, and JDAMs. Even then, we would be flogging production lines 24/7 to get that sort of production without opening up new lines. Nobody, and I mean *nobody* is prepared for what is turning into the first attritional war in the 21st century. To put it another way, I would be deeply surprised if the *global* total sum of ATGM production a day was more than 500 a day before the war started.

If we transpose the 500 Javelin number over to ATGMs in general, and say that they have been using that many since the start of the war, that would mean that the Ukrainians have used well over 15,000 of the damn things. The 17,000 missiles NATO has sent over, would last 34 days, and the 6,000 missiles the Brits are promising to send would last 12.

The Javelin and Stinger missile systems have unique capabilities. Late model Stingers are just about the only MANPAD in the world which can effectively target all but the high-altitude drone systems. Javelins are infamous for their mixture of great range, armor penetration, and Fire-and-Forget capabilities. So it isn't like NATO can just pull obsolescent systems out of storage and call it just as good either.

I guess between doing emergency crash training for conscripts, interdiction and destruction efforts, frontline attrition, inexperience causing misses, and then actually effective combat usage, the numbers for this starts to line up. The numbers are still absurd for the modern era though.

The situation seems to be bad enough that we are sending our cache of soviet-tech anti-air FME to Ukraine.

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Do I think the Ukrainian military is going to fold sooner rather than later? I still lean toward it putting up a decent fight for the foreseeable future. However, the next big test for the Ukrainian military is if it will survive the next wave of assaults by the Russians.
I figure that the fall of Mariupol, and the recently landing forces in the south, will jointly with a Belorussian-Russian venture in the north hit Ukraine in the next 2-3 weeks.

As of right now, the Ukrainians are supposedly counter attacking in a couple of areas. The most successful likely being around Mykolaiv in the southwest. Just what this means is not known. We shall see if Ukraine is able to take and hold territory, which is another important sign of military vitality.
 
I wish more western right wingers knew that the RF is basically Eurasian multiculturalism instead of Eurogroid multiculturalism.

This is what 74 years of socialism does to a country. Bolchevism was far more destructive than Tsarism and Russia will probably never recover.
The pre-Bolshevik Russian Empire was extremely multicultural as well. St. Petersburg was explicitly founded as a multi-national city. Russia has not been a monocultural state (though there was a sort of somewhat vague pan-Russian culture) for nearly 800 years, if not longer.

Edit: the social engineering policies of the Soviet Union did cause an immense amount of damage, no denying that.
 
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