Man, all these stories are such a bummer. I guess I'll share mine.
My best friend from growing up just joined the tranny cult, sort of gradually over the last year or so. We became friends in middle school, and even though in the later part of high school I started hanging out with new people who I spent most of my time with, we remained close, We got our first apartment together, I was even the maid of honor in her wedding. She was always weird in that artist kind of way, but she's smart, talented, and a hard worker, and was mostly a rational person when it came to most things. She has a very successful business and has always seemed very confident. She's straight, a bit of a tomboy, but always dated men. But, the men she dates are always very, I don't know, submissive I guess? The type of man who seems kind of gay, men who to me seem like total pussies. She married this one guy but they didn't last long. The thing is, she was always a total fag hag, obsessed with gay men but I always thought it was just a weird part of her personality and it didn't really affect me so I didn't think much of it. She and I sort of drifted apart over the last few years, we would talk every so often, but most of what I knew about what was going on embarrassingly came from Instagram.
So, I saw that she had started hanging out with some local drag queens. Eventually, she became a "drag king" and made up this whole character.. She made all kinds of costumes and began performing in drag shows. When that started, I knew this was a bad sign. The next step was her announcing that "being called a he" made her feel good and she was now non-binary. Not surprisingly, the trannies and drag queens she was hanging around totally love-bombed her, saying things about how she's a real man, how "handsome" she is, etc. Very soon after that, she was off to the doctor to have her tits lopped off. She went on social media and made a long post about how she was finally in the body she always wanted. Now, knowing her for years, she never said or did anything that would indicate she had any issues with her gender or body, tits or otherwise. Of course, she got hundreds of people commenting "Yasss king" and how glad they were she was finally going to be happy. Now she's decided to live fully as a man and has changed her name to her drag king name, and thanked the trans community for "making [her] realize who [she] really is". Also, I think she's dating a drag queen. She finally got the true fag she always wanted. It's absolutely ridiculous. So, again, I pieced this all together from lurking on her social media. She never said anything to me face-to-face about it, even when it first started and we were still talking. I guess she knows that I wouldn't be positive about it, it's not a huge secret how I feel about trannies, so I guess that's it. I could reach out to her, but I wouldn't really even know what to say, and I know she's not going to engage in any type of discussion about it that isn't congratulatory. I feel like we might never really talk again because I certainly won't be able to talk or hang out with her without making it clear how dumb I think she's being. It's very sad. She looks so gross now. She used to be very pretty with a great body and now she looks like a mutilated freak. (She's got wide hips so it looks so fucking weird with the flat chest and huge scars.)
I always thought it was just men who did the "can't date a lesbian so I'll become one" sort of thing, but I was wrong. She loves fags, so she's trying to become a fag so she'll have a chance to date one it seems. She's not a teenager, I'm almost positive she wasn't diddled as a child, she has none of the hallmarks of what I thought most FTMs had. She went from pretty normal to cutting off her tits within two years of hanging out with drag queens. This shit really is like a cult.
Not like a cult. Is a cult. A cult with the medical community and international bodies behind it. It's fucking terrifying
Not to pry, but was your friend scared of more traditional men? That seems to be a common thing in these cases: women who are intimidated/anxious around masculine men.
My best friend of nearly 10 years who I speak to daily has gotten into a romantic relationship with a tranny. The tranny themselves isn't too reprehensible by tranny standards thankfully; but I know sooner or later things are going to go really badly when the tranny has a break down, either dragging my friend into a pit he can never escape from or at leading the dude down an emotional dead end for who knows how long. I hope things turn out well and if they can somehow make a healthy relationship out of their weird gay tranny thing I'll be nothing but happy, but how likely is that?
Alright, so i'll assume you want the stalking/copying shit?
So the stalking shit was legit. To keep it brief, I had her blocked on every social media I had at the time but apparently I had stumbled across 1 of her accounts and I didn't realize it was her's until a few days later. Anyways I was going off about 1 of my new interests, just some hot guy actor y'know how girls get obsessed with those. I decided to check on her instagram incognito mode since I was blocked and that mother fucker was stalking me. Around the time I was obsessed with said actor guy, the exact same time frame, she posted some obvious rage bait about the actor (some ugly picture of a fictional character that didn't at all look like the actor, so y'know rage bait shit) with sarcasm to try to get me out of the wood works. After I put 2 and 2 together, I blocked the account (which I recently discovered got nuked sometime this month.) I figured out was her's to prevent anymore fucking snooping.
The copying thing, I think that's a bit more of my paranoia flaring up to be fair but I can't help but assume since it lines up too well? Minor PL, but i'm a MASSIVE Resident Evil, Naruto, and Jujutsu Kaisen fan. This context is somewhat important. So this was around about when RE: Village came out and I had been cut out of her life for about 1-2 months at this time, I briefly mentioned I was into resident evil at some point before the cut off, so when Village came out ALL OF A SUDDEN she was into it and "An obsessed super fan" even thought she never played the games/bought any merch she just "watched" them with her excuse being "i'm so poor i can't afford any of them " which is a bullshit excuse esp since emulation/pirating/ and RE 0,1,4,5, and 6 are on pretty much every system known to fucking man. Then the same things happened with Naruto and Jujutsu Kaisen since I mentioned them back in that winter when we used to hang out. I was out of the picture and SUDDENLY SHE WAS INTO NARUTO AGAIN, JUJUTSU KAISEN? SUDDENLY ON HER KINS LIST. I've brought up her "kins" countless times before, but I still know for a fact it was a boyfriends/crush list since she would be fucking horny as hell for Kakashi when I used to talk to her but ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S A HARD CORE KAKASHI KIN. Forgot to add this as well but, she also claimed she got her foot fetish from me? She was like "OH MAN DUDE. YOU MADE ME REALIZE I LIKE FEET. I'M SUUUUCH A DIRTY FEET SLUT OMG I LOVE FEET SO MUCH WOOF WOOF BARK!" Which honestly disturbed me? I'm down for more people getting a new fetish or whatever, but the way she used to go "oh ew i don't see the appeal" to "MMMMGHH FEET SO HORNY EUUGHHH MMMPHHH" in a little less than a week came off very strange to me????
Again, i'm probably over reacting/paranoia but it all lines up too fucking coincidentally that she was trying to i guess "reclaim/copy" some of my biggest interests?
I'm convinced this shit is some kind of trend with troons however? I know another friend who had a troon ex friend who was obsessed with a franchise that they kinned from it when it was obvious it was just a hard core crush but NAH WE CAN'T BE IN LOVE, WE HAVE TO BECOME OUR FICTIONAL CRUSHES.
Also updates:
Now she's dating two fat ugly troons, has a neo pronoun list a mile long, and nuked all of her acc's outside of her instagram according to a friend. She's also into black washing/ claiming certain characters are black. If it wasn't considered harassment I'd use that one internet service to send gorilla shit to her house. She still also kins serial killers (Jason, Ghost Face) , and from what i've heard from many of my friends that's a big fucking red problematic flag so do with that what you will?
I'll admit i'm a bit scared she might try to find me in the wild under a new social media account and try to start shit, but I still have plenty of receipts if she tries to call me out on something.
Edit: reformatted it to break it into chunks and added a thing.
Again, i'm probably over reacting/paranoia but it all lines up too fucking coincidentally that she was trying to i guess "reclaim/copy" some of my biggest interests?
I'm convinced this shit is some kind of trend with troons however? I know another friend who had a troon ex friend who was obsessed with a franchise that they kinned from it when it was obvious it was just a hard core crush but NAH WE CAN'T BE IN LOVE, WE HAVE TO BECOME OUR FICTIONAL CRUSHES.
I've got a friend who I suspect is getting close to trooning out. She's a lesbian and has always been a little off, but always very kind. When we were teenagers she talked about having PTSD and experiencing what she described as psychotic episodes where, afterwards, she would almost completely forget what happened during. I think her parents offered to get her therapy but for whatever reason after getting diagnosed with ptsd (I think), I don't think she ever went to therapy.
A few years ago she told our friend group she wanted to use they/them pronouns and we all sort of went along with it. Since then she's adopted a semi-androgynous style, has started binding, started using a male form of her name (like a Sam for Samantha sort of thing), and is in what she calls a queer relationship with a man. She's made some passing remarks about a double mastectomy but hasn't made any forward movement on that, to my knowledge. It's really been ramping up recently as she's gotten involved with a lot of other troons and our friend group doesn't see her as often. I think we're all sort of unsure about how to handle it and I just don't have the patience. It's really awful because she used to be very sweet and kind and fun to be around but ever since they/theming she's become oversensitive and aggressive in what I can only guess is her way of trying to emulate a man.
I am the mother of one of these mentally ill individuals.
I cannot express in words how utterly confusing and destructive it is. I cannot express the heartbreak.
I am not supportive. I am not accepting. I am openly opposed and "transphobic".
Phobia = fear of. Yes, I have the fear of my daughter chemically and physically mutilating her absolutely beautiful God given body and life. I have a fear of her death.
The medical community is just going along with it. WHY??
I tried to come to terms two years ago with the fact I have lost my child. My beautiful, empathetic, incredibly talented, autistic, mentally ill child.
I blame so many things. The internet, anime, discord, ... I want to burn it all down.
Mostly, I blame myself.
I appreciate this site because it arms me with information. It all goes unheard, but maybe something will pop. Maybe someday she'll realize it's all bullshit, and see mental health as a path to wellness, and not some radical conversion therapy.
Alright, so i'll assume you want the stalking/copying shit?
So the stalking shit was legit. To keep it brief, I had her blocked on every social media I had at the time but apparently I had stumbled across 1 of her accounts and I didn't realize it was her's until a few days later. Anyways I was going off about 1 of my new interests, just some hot guy actor y'know how girls get obsessed with those. I decided to check on her instagram incognito mode since I was blocked and that mother fucker was stalking me. Around the time I was obsessed with said actor guy, the exact same time frame, she posted some obvious rage bait about the actor (some ugly picture of a fictional character that didn't at all look like the actor, so y'know rage bait shit) with sarcasm to try to get me out of the wood works. After I put 2 and 2 together, I blocked the account (which I recently discovered got nuked sometime this month.) I figured out was her's to prevent anymore fucking snooping.
The copying thing, I think that's a bit more of my paranoia flaring up to be fair but I can't help but assume since it lines up too well? Minor PL, but i'm a MASSIVE Resident Evil, Naruto, and Jujutsu Kaisen fan. This context is somewhat important. So this was around about when RE: Village came out and I had been cut out of her life for about 1-2 months at this time, I briefly mentioned I was into resident evil at some point before the cut off, so when Village came out ALL OF A SUDDEN she was into it and "An obsessed super fan" even thought she never played the games/bought any merch she just "watched" them with her excuse being "i'm so poor i can't afford any of them " which is a bullshit excuse esp since emulation/pirating/ and RE 0,1,4,5, and 6 are on pretty much every system known to fucking man. Then the same things happened with Naruto and Jujutsu Kaisen since I mentioned them back in that winter when we used to hang out. I was out of the picture and SUDDENLY SHE WAS INTO NARUTO AGAIN, JUJUTSU KAISEN? SUDDENLY ON HER KINS LIST. I've brought up her "kins" countless times before, but I still know for a fact it was a boyfriends/crush list since she would be fucking horny as hell for Kakashi when I used to talk to her but ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S A HARD CORE KAKASHI KIN. Forgot to add this as well but, she also claimed she got her foot fetish from me? She was like "OH MAN DUDE. YOU MADE ME REALIZE I LIKE FEET. I'M SUUUUCH A DIRTY FEET SLUT OMG I LOVE FEET SO MUCH WOOF WOOF BARK!" Which honestly disturbed me? I'm down for more people getting a new fetish or whatever, but the way she used to go "oh ew i don't see the appeal" to "MMMMGHH FEET SO HORNY EUUGHHH MMMPHHH" in a little less than a week came off very strange to me????
Again, i'm probably over reacting/paranoia but it all lines up too fucking coincidentally that she was trying to i guess "reclaim/copy" some of my biggest interests?
I'm convinced this shit is some kind of trend with troons however? I know another friend who had a troon ex friend who was obsessed with a franchise that they kinned from it when it was obvious it was just a hard core crush but NAH WE CAN'T BE IN LOVE, WE HAVE TO BECOME OUR FICTIONAL CRUSHES.
Also updates:
Now she's dating two fat ugly troons, has a neo pronoun list a mile long, and nuked all of her acc's outside of her instagram according to a friend. She's also into black washing/ claiming certain characters are black. If it wasn't considered harassment I'd use that one internet service to send gorilla shit to her house. She still also kins serial killers (Jason, Ghost Face) , and from what i've heard from many of my friends that's a big fucking red problematic flag so do with that what you will?
I'll admit i'm a bit scared she might try to find me in the wild under a new social media account and try to start shit, but I still have plenty of receipts if she tries to call me out on something.
Edit: reformatted it to break it into chunks and added a thing.
Not to pry, but was your friend scared of more traditional men? That seems to be a common thing in these cases: women who are intimidated/anxious around masculine men.
I have to assume it comes from a place of fear, yes, and I think it also comes from her having to be in control in relationships. (The two things are likely connected.) I'm no psychfag, but I have a feeling her mother also had a big effect on how she turned out. Her mom is pretty cold and withholding. She wasn't like, neglectful or abusive, but the whole time I knew her she had to be very independent. For example, her mother never made dinner for her or her brothers, There would be food in the house, but she and her brothers were always on their own to make their own meals, get themselves places, things like that. And it's not like she wouldn't be home, her mother was always home (she never really seemed to be working, I think her father was paying quite a bit in child support or alimony or something because they had a small but nice house and all that). I think she has a big fear of losing control and goes for men who let her run the show and just go along with what she wants to do. How exactly that translates into deciding she's a man, I'm not sure, maybe deep-seated misogyny that it's more "masculine" to be the leader in relationships? I would have thought that she was aware enough to know that you can be a woman and still "wear the pants" in a relationship at the same time, but I guess not.
I really think that the biggest factor in this whole thing was getting a lot of positive attention from the people she started hanging around, who were all trannies/gay men. I think she may have felt like she didn't have much in the way of a family, so she was seeking a community elsewhere and this is where she landed. Combine seeing others who transition getting all kinds of love and support from them with feeling like she wants to fit in with them, and the result is what to me seemed like a rash decision to have a life-altering surgery and attempt to create a new identity.
One of my friends trooned out a few months ago. He's gone from being a pretty nice and chill guy to being incredibly aggressive. He's also made comments about how seeing women's breasts make him enraged because of the envy. Don't know if it's the estrogen or the mental illness but he's starting to really scare me.
A guy I've been seeing made a comment recently about how he wishes he was enlightened enough to be nonbinary. Is that enough to run like hell? Why does this keep happening to me?
A guy I've been seeing made a comment recently about how he wishes he was enlightened enough to be nonbinary. Is that enough to run like hell? Why does this keep happening to me?
Run like hell. But before you do, ask him why that would make him "enlightened". I genuinely want to know. It also might prompt him to ask himself some questions.
Who is he wanting to please? The woke crowd? Do they affect him at the end of the day when he is at home chilling with you?
What religion is he that he thinks "enlightenment" is nonbinary? A godless religion? Then there is no enlightenment.
My friend group’s troon is bugging the shit out of me at the moment. He is screeching about how hot he is, how much hotter he is than his ex, all the usual “I am better at being a lady than actual women” bullshit. I have a broad range of hobbies that span both sex’s interest, but since I do my own nail art this troon now won’t talk to me about anything other than sharing pictures of his man hands with paint flooding his cuticles.
Today one of the reasonable guys in the group shared a pic of himself that incidentally showed his feet in shoes. another person mentioned how petite this man’s feet were and the troon flew off the handle because his feet are a size 12/13 in womens, holy shit lol. I hope reality slaps him hard soon because he is being really insufferable and I used to like chatting with these folks.
It looks like he may have begun his fetish model career with a prosthetic vest (he had started wearing a smaller one towards the end of our time together), but I'm pretty sure he did get actual implants later on, unless pics like these just use some crazy good photoshopping skills:
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A little late but I have such delightful horrors to show you -- a possible answer to the mystery of the ever-expanding bustline of Taco Salad's ex. Ever hear of polypropylene breast implants? They've been banned in the USA since 2001 due to their horrifying effects, but live on in the extreme fetish community who hunt down unethical butchers willing to install them.
Polypropylene breast implants, also known as string breast implants, are a form of breast implant using polypropylene developed by Gerald W. Johnson. Due to a number of medical complications, the device has not been approved in the European Union or the United States.[1]
Polypropylene implants absorb water very slowly, about <0.01% in 24 hours.[2] The polypropylene, which is yarn-like, causes irritation to the implant pocket which causes the production of serum which fills the implant pocket on a continual basis.[citation needed] This causes continuous expansion of the breast after surgery. Growth can only be alleviated by removal of serum by syringe. Problems can also arise if the breasts enlarge at different rates. This can be corrected by removal of serum or introduction of sterile saline. Continual breast growth will eventually result in "extreme, almost cartoonish breast sizes."[3]
String implants were only available for a very short time in the US before being removed from the market by the FDA around 2001.[4]
Chelsea Charms (middle), who has polypropylene breast implants, standing alongside Echo Valley (left) & Colt 45 (right).
Polypropylene implant have created the largest recorded increases in breast size due to surgical augmentation. They are rarely seen outside the adult entertainment industry. Big-bust entertainers Beshine, Chelsea Charms, Maxi Mounds, Kayla Kleevage, Minka, Elizabeth Starr, and Teddi Barrett are some recipients of polypropylene breast implants.
He's diagnosed autistic if that's still an illness in 2022, he said he was initially non verbal but his parents paid for a shitton of therapy and his speech was normal ever since I could remember him in school. He did say he had anxiety/depression and a clusterfuck of random shit like hearing things and constantly feeling afraid of messing up a conversation but he's far from an unstable wreck. He comes across to friends and my family as a polite and successful guy who's held multiple jobs better than burger flipping and has a degree, visited a few countries. I can't think of his recent trooning as anything other than exposure to his woke girlfriend putting ideas in his head that mixed with his weird autist sensory shit.
Please don't, you were blindsided by an entire movement which would be impossible for one person to defend themselves against, let alone another loved one.
He's diagnosed autistic if that's still an illness in 2022, he said he was initially non verbal but his parents paid for a shitton of therapy and his speech was normal ever since I could remember him in school
Bs, personal experience is that speech got better with age. And good luck getting a young autistic kid to actually do the exercises provided by the therapist. They are repetitive and feels pointless. And I'm of the opinion that strengthening the core muscularity through hitting the gym had more effect.
A little late but I have such delightful horrors to show you -- a possible answer to the mystery of the ever-expanding bustline of Taco Salad's ex. Ever hear of polypropylene breast implants? They've been banned in the USA since 2001 due to their horrifying effects, but live on in the extreme fetish community who hunt down unethical butchers willing to install them.
" which is a bullshit excuse esp since emulation/pirating/ and RE 0,1,4,5, and 6 are on pretty much every system known to fucking man. Then the same things happened with Naruto and Jujutsu Kaisen since I mentioned them back in that winter when we used to hang out. I was out of the picture and SUDDENLY SHE WAS INTO NARUTO AGAIN, JUJUTSU KAISEN? SUDDENLY ON HER KINS LIST. I've brought up her "kins" countless times before, but I still know for a fact it was a boyfriends/crush list since she would be fucking horny as hell for Kakashi when I used to talk to her but ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S A HARD CORE KAKASHI KIN. Forgot to add this as well but, she also claimed she got her foot fetish from me? She was like "OH MAN DUDE. YOU MADE ME REALIZE I LIKE FEET. I'M SUUUUCH A DIRTY FEET SLUT OMG I LOVE FEET SO MUCH WOOF WOOF BARK!" Which honestly disturbed me? I'm down for more people getting a new fetish or whatever, but the way she used to go "oh ew i don't see the appeal" to "MMMMGHH FEET SO HORNY EUUGHHH MMMPHHH" in a little less than a week came off very strange to me????
