Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Sandshrew]

If you suspect your friend is in an abusive relationship, then you SHOULD be concerned. Simple as that. Their partners' genders don't matter. Abusers are abusers.

She isn't dating them and has no attraction toward them. She's just looking for a roommate living situation. And I'm concerned these people will be weirdo sex pests, either sexually harassing her or doing disgusting shit around the house.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

She isn't dating them and has no attraction toward them. She's just looking for a roommate living situation. And I'm concerned these people will be weirdo sex pests, either sexually harassing her or doing disgusting shit around the house.

Honestly you do sound kinda over concerned but that could be just from not having the full context and never having met anyone involved before. I wouldn't say your worries are unfounded, just that I would just be kinda concerned not extremely concerned. I mean at least you have an entire website full of people doing exactly what you describe if you need to prove your point/justify your concern to her.

 

[Internet Wizard]

I'm not really sure where to post this, sorry if this is the wrong thread for it
One of my friends is suggesting that I date/look for trans people after I mentioned that cis women tend to not be into the same things personality-wise as me (mostly music/humor related)* and i kind of just stared at my screen like this

It's maybe a delusional thought but at some point I feel like a lot of zoomers will be pressured into lying about their own sexuality for the sake of dating and I'm scared of what that might do long term. I'm obviously not going to consider anything without a vag** but it's still disheartening to ask for genuine thoughts and hear that back. Like, when I was in the UK basically all my friends were cisgendered yet shared in these same things, is America really just uniquely fucked in this regard?
The girls I've dated in the past, even if socially super liberal (like palestine encampment tier) have all told me in private that they wouldn't ever consider transing and think it's a net detriment to do so. I'm starting to worry that this is a dying breed, or becoming less and less common even at a personal level.
Where have all the edgy girls gone...


* No, my personality isn't gooning and playing vidya
** So is it better to be a chaser than to be straight these days? Who even knows anymore

 

[SteinserGate]

The girls I've dated in the past, even if socially super liberal (like palestine encampment tier) have all told me in private that they wouldn't ever consider transing and think it's a net detriment to do so. I'm starting to worry that this is a dying breed, or becoming less and less common even at a personal level.
Where have all the edgy girls gone...

* No, my personality isn't gooning and playing vidya
** So is it better to be a chaser than to be straight these days? Who even knows anymore

They are out there, and a lot of them tend to really hide it until you get to know them better.
It less that it's really a dying breed, and more of a social pressure situation.
Being edgy to the wrong crowd of girls as a girl can have some pretty fucked up consequences.
You sort of just have to play the numbers game and develop an eye for it. It takes some decent social skills, imo, as well.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The girls I've dated in the past, even if socially super liberal (like palestine encampment tier) have all told me in private that they wouldn't ever consider transing and think it's a net detriment to do so. I'm starting to worry that this is a dying breed, or becoming less and less common even at a personal level.

They are out there, and a lot of them tend to really hide it until you get to know them better.

Everyone hates troons, they just don't think it's safe to admit it out loud, but they will when they think it is.

They'll admit that they hate troons in private conversations with people they trust, and because society is gradually turning on the whole trans/queer movement, we'll see far more people coming out against transgenderism, even normies and liberals.

 

[Your old Livejournal]

My once best friend who brainwashed herself into an asexual (yes, she's on SSRIs, how did you guess) pooner is back at it again. She had a brief phase where she watched a lot of those "crazy troon vs. sensible truscum" videos after which she seemed to have peaked. However, now she's back to accepting hackin' valid trans folx and argues that nonbinary is an actual thing.
It's just so sad. She's an otherwise intelligent woman in her mid 30s but the only media she's consuming these days is various kinds of BL/yaoi. Her dream is to be an Asian gay guy, which is just so extremely cringe.

In the past, she only wore a binder but recently her hair has become shorter with each visit to the hair dresser. Now, don't misunderstand me, women can have short hair, but combined with everything else I fear that it's a sign she's become more convinced to pursue her delusion.

I was a fujo in my younger years, but I can't for the life of me understand how that shit is the only kind of entertainment you consume? And then let it convince you it's real and a life you, a grown-ass woman, can achieve. It's just so tragic (and tbh, this kind of idiocy also pisses me off).

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

after I mentioned that cis women tend to not be into the same things

when I was in the UK basically all my friends were cisgendered

Why the fuck are you using tranny cult speech in the first place?

 

[Internet Wizard]

Why the fuck are you using tranny cult speech in the first place?

I didn't know there was another way to say this without using the whole word "biological", sorry

because society is gradually turning on the whole trans/queer movement, we'll see far more people coming out against transgenderism, even normies and liberals.

I still doubt this is happening IRL in all honesty, though it's been a while since I've been in the US so maybe things have changed in a year

 

[Commander Suzdal]

I didn't know there was another way to say this without using the whole word "biological", sorry

Instead of "cis women" you can say "women" or "real women". This is the Farms!

Your friend is brainwashed. There are plenty of women out there you're compatible with.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Instead of "cis women" you can say "women" or "real women". This is the Farms!

One of the best things that comes from this website is how we don't have to self censor. For some it's indeed a shock they don't have to anymore, but it's such a liberating feeling.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

mentioned that cis women tend to not be into the same things personality-wise as me (mostly music/humor related)

I don't think I've ever dated someone who has the same music tastes as me. The fucking last guy I dated was into fucking 100gecs and that porn slop sophie type shit. Still dated for a decent while though because it does not matter. You don't need to find someone with the maximum amount in common with you, otherwise you'd just go fuck the mirror. You shouldn't date someone just because you have a lot in common because those things are transitory, when I first met my gf I loved a load of songs and games and shows and all that shit that I have not thought about since. If you base a relationship in a shared love of one current thing then what do you think happens when that thing is no longer current? Yea ok I met her because of one of those things that we still both love but that's not why I love her, that's just how I found her. I probably have more in common with the people that I work with, mostly because they're also guys, just in general men will share more things in common with other men, that's why you'll have more in common with a tranny than a woman, still doesn't mean I'm going to go cheat with them.

I still doubt this is happening IRL in all honesty

The last time I saw a tranny in real life everyone around me rolled their eyes and looked visibly disgusted by it. By basically every measure support for them has dropped. In general most people are less in favour of them and the current generation are leaning pretty heavily right wing. I have not met a single adult that agrees with it and the women I talk to will normally be much more transphobic than even some people on this site. Puberty blockers are now all but banned, hrt is being limited to over 18/21s and most places are heavily cutting back on any srs as well as pushing for therapy instead of hrt. Transgenders are banned from basically every major sporting event, I think the military too(?). There's legal documentation pointing to how the country completely fails vulnerable people when it comes to these delusions. And the entire fucking country I live in, including leftists, has become so open about it's hatred of trannies they have started calling it terf island.

It is most fucking definitely happening irl.

 

[Internet Wizard]

And the entire fucking country I live in, including leftists, has become so open about it's hatred of trannies they have started calling it terf island.

I think the UK is like heaven compared to the US on this issue. I genuinely think that we might soon see transgenderism normalized in the US, even embraced by both political sides, because it's just how things are shaping up to be here. Here it never was about the healthcare industry or "trans medicalism" because a lot of trans people do it "DIY". So even if we had things like our own Cass Review it'd fall on deaf ears, and barely interact with the communities trans people are apart of.
Trump isn't much better, even if he's more brazen about it all that really does is scare trannies straight and entrench them further into their ways of life. Starmer is much better, even if he's a trainwreck, because he has the cool Labour tag and can slowly implement common sense into society. I fear that if Dems win again it might lead to a tranny blowback much greater than that we've seen before.
As a zoomer many people really just see no to few downsides with tranzing. They take things at face value and don't really consider (or care about) future implications (ex: breast removal really is just that - getting fat removed from your chest. No one really cares about potentially being mothers, biology, or even things like the potential cost of surgery, how they might look after, and regret). In the rare cases they're denied treatment, many will again just do things DIY and any criticism of that is seen as being a fed

Because oftentimes, going to the doc means long wait times, therapy, or lots of money (usually this). I think there's concerns to be had with how our medical system works and that it's better for them to actually see doctors so we can prevent total anarchy, but I really don't know. I want to go back to the days when self harm was just slitting your thighs or wrists for attention, instead of injecting estrogen from a Brazilian bathtub into your bloodstream

Whatever, in a decade half the people my age will probably have zippertits or cone tits. I don't really care as long as I can find someone else to watch the Collapse with, though it feels like sifting for gold in the Ganges. TLDR I'm frustrated

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I think the UK is like heaven compared to the US on this issue.

I am legally not allowed to express any anti tranny sentiment lest I be jailed for 3-5 years. What I have already typed in this post is already enough for a policeman to show up at my door. You have fucking trump as the president, the fact that he got elected twice should be proof enough that not all of america is a hyper liberal shithole. He's already rolled back a lot of pro trans shit. Don't quote me on it because I'm not american but didn't he stop them joining the military, at the very least stopped military healthcare paying for hrt and shit. They're still banned from a lot of sporting events and that sort of stuff over there too, fairly sure the bathroom debate is still a thing there too. Almost certain that the current generation are leaning just as right wing in america as over here. I cannot say for sure but looking at some of the tranny sms posts here seems like transphobia is still very much alive and well in america, especially as you have an absolute right to say those things. You're looking at where you currently live and assuming the entire country must be the same.

All I know is that america and england follow the same path a lot of the time. We got in this mess together and it seems we're changing it together too, though I am not the best person to give examples for that. The only thing I can say for sure about america is that the fbi will most certainly accept tips if there are people smuggling fake prescription medication over borders.

Be frustrated. Be angry. Just don't be defeatist or nihilistic.

 

[Ed Special]

Why the fuck are you using tranny cult speech in the first place?

Can you kindly stop speech policing like a fucking tranny? Getting assmad about whether or not someone uses troonspeak when discussing troons makes you look like a colossal downie faggot, regardless of whether you're pro- or anti-troonspeak.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Can you kindly stop speech policing like a fucking tranny? Getting assmad about whether or not someone uses troonspeak when discussing troons makes you look like a colossal downie faggot, regardless of whether you're pro- or anti-troonspeak.

Only if you ask nicely and then you kill yourself, you diseased tranny dick sucker!


I didn't say this person can't use tranny cult speech, you retarded faggot. I asked WHY he/she is using it.

You are so fucking dumb.

 

[Ed Special]

I asked WHY he/she is using it.

That is still speech policing, tranny. Especially with the exact wording being, and I quote

Why the fuck are you using tranny cult speech in the first place?

You do not use such an aggressive tone without intention of changing someone's behavior. Quit your fucking bullshit or go find another thread to aggressively shit up.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I didn't know there was another way to say this without using the whole word "biological", sorry

Spoiler: Language sperging

I'm not weighing in on the whole speech policing issue, so this is unrelated, but did you know "cis" as a prefix is not just "the opposite of trans"? Trans means "across" while cis means "adjacent to." The West Bank is known as Cisjordania because it's adjacent to the Jordan. So, while there's debate as to whether there's a such thing as being cross-gender, it's definitely not accurate to say that normal people are adjacent to gender. As a concept, it makes no sense. A normal woman can't be described as being adjacent to the female gender, even in a universe where "woman" is a spectrum. Even if we grant them "cis" as a prefix, it would properly describe someone who's uncertain of their gender, but believes they are close to being a woman/man.

Probably the most accurate way to describe a normal woman/man in gender ideology terms would be something like homogender, but that sounds too much like homosexual and homo is Greek, so it doesn't fit neatly with the Latin prefix trans. Even autists are better at finding a word to describe non-autists. I guess troons don't want to use the word gendertypical to describe everyone who's not trans because it positions being trans as abnormal (which it is). Then again, they're fine with "genderqueer"? Trannies make no sense.

 

[Heavy Duty Boots]

That is still speech policing, tranny. Especially with the exact wording being, and I quote

You do not use such an aggressive tone without intention of changing someone's behavior. Quit your fucking bullshit or go find another thread to aggressively shit up.

You're the one shitting up the thread, and you seem to be a serial threadshitter because I couldn't even view your profile to leave a comment there and not further derail conversation here...

Spoiler: Idiot

Anyway, @Sinner's Sandwich wasn't speech policing, he was stopping someone for using tranny-speech because the words in and out of themselves are infected with tranny ideology. For such a thing as "cis" to exist, there must be some other category to contrast it with, which is naturally trannies. The mere concept of gender as something separate from biological sex is an invention of the pedophile freak John Money.
Even if you hate trannies, using their ideologically charged words such as "cis" and "gender" validates their whole worldview. It's the kind of language manipulation so obvious they teach it to you in a sociolinguistics 101 class. The average Twitter-dwelling tranny is too stupid to know what they're doing, but the tranny academics certainly know, and that's why theyso heavily push censorship of terms like "real women": it breaks the linguistic illusions they are creating.
The point of all this is that pointing out people are using tranny-speak is something we should all do here, and if your mouth breathing gets in the way of you realizing this fact, go back to the nigger cattle sites.

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Thankfully I haven't lost anyone to the cult, but the pooner encounters have been on the rise. Due to work, I interact with two of them on an almost daily basis. It's inmensely sad because it's obvious these young women are just lost. They are both extremely short and petite, and all they've done to "become men" is cut their hair and christhen themselves with british boy sounding names (you know the ones). We don't even live in an English speaking country. Both of them have very obvious self-harm scars they take no measures to hide. One straight up told me she has suicidal ideations, and the other one is so insecure that if anyone laughs in her vincinity, she will ALWAYS ask if they're laughing at her. They're not even the hilarious fujo type, just sad, lonely women.

 

[cleanerfromvenus]

She's an otherwise intelligent woman in her mid 30s but the only media she's consuming these days is various kinds of BL/yaoi.

This is basically my GFs friend group. And I have to tell her, none of these women are men. They don't hang out with men. They don't do things men do, they fantasize about things men don't care about. Hell they don't even know about a dick and balls at all. They aren't even gay men since their only idea of sex is limited to essentially just foreplay. Gay men at least like sucking dick, they sure as hell don't. It's insane. They think that all you have to do to be masculine is cut your hair and not have tits.