Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[The Unbecoming]

Isn't that the show where a SDF helicopter can kill a dragon?

To be a sperg, why wouldn't a helicopter be able to kill a flying lizard?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

To be a sperg, why wouldn't a helicopter be able to kill a flying lizard?

 

[Fcret]

I read somewhere that the manga "GATE" and later on anime could be considered some sort of psyop by their JSDF, to warm people up to the idea of Japan being stronk again.

The author of GATE was a pretty outspoken Japanese nationalist to the point of being fairly anti-American when he wrote it. He's since warmed up the US-Japan alliance (Operation Tomodachi has paid massive dividends in improving relations between the Japanese populace and the US military).

I don't think the JSDF is responsible so much as Japan waking up to the fact that East Asia is increasingly a dangerous place and that, if they want a say in how their allies conduct themselves in defending Japan, they need to bring actual firepower to the table. You can see this increased military consciousness all over Japanese pop culture - Sword Art Online's Alicization storyline is about the JSDF cooperating with the US military to create AI soldiers in order to reduce casualties in a war. And while it's fairly critical of the JSDF and the US military, it does show that there's an increased awareness of the issue even among Japanese normies (SAO being as normiecore as it comes these days in Japan).

 

[White_N]

Hmmm seems a bit optimistic seeing as how we've definitely been seeing fighting recently in some of those areas. I can't wait until we finally get accurate, truthful maps.....in ten to twenty years when shit gets declassified, and all the relevant leaders are dead or out of power.

Actually, this map shows relatively modest results, especially in the north, relative to what the armchair generals drew.

Here is an example of a map from open sources.

march 24

 

[draggs]

Japan doesn't want to be all on its own facing the Chinkanese commies

 

[Meat Target]

Operation Tomodachi has paid massive dividends in improving relations between the Japanese populace and the US military

That has got to be the cutest name for a military operation I've ever heard.

 

[Wy4M]

Actually, this map shows relatively modest results, especially in the north, relative to what the armchair generals drew.

Here is an example of a map from open sources.

march 24
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Spoiler

No, I'm not going to keep doing this.
In fact this was a bonus.

 

[Fcret]

That has got to be the cutest name for a military operation I've ever heard.

It completely changed the landscape of US-Japan relations and also sunk the DPJ (the Japanese left) as credible opposition for a generation. The DPJ were in power when the 2011 earthquake happened and them hemming and hawing about sending in the JSDF and requesting American assistance while the US unilaterally committed to a quick response and billions in aid played very poorly with the voters.

Japanese women, historically one of the most anti-military demographics in Japan, now view the US military more favorably than the general population of the US. And general Japanese favorability towards the US is higher than at any point since WW2.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

not just the rest of europe, but americas allies in asia even more so

think about it - europe is weak right now because they're complacent, but if they wanted they could quickly change that. they have 3 times larger population than russia, and like 15 times larger economy. it would be very easy for them to match or even exceed russian military power on their own. and with france being a nuclear power, they can in principle provide nuclear detterence on their own as well, without america.

but with americas asian allies, this is not the case. countries like korea, japan and taiwan simply are way too small to match the chinese military buildup, it's completely impossible for them to do. also none of them are nuclear powers, so for these countries, american protection is 100% necessary, they are completely dependent on it and there is no way out of that dependence for them. watching america abandon its allies to its enemies one by one must be actually terrifying for these guys.

Damn right.
Don't think Europe will ever be that united to fully compensate America's power gap, but hell, if anything good came from Putin dick waving, it's that Europe actually needs to get its shit together for everyone's sake.
I think Asian countries are much smaller, they're still vital for the global economy. If Xi decides to make stupid moves like that, I want to have the feeling that America will have no choice, but to step in fully. And with the fucking nightmare shit China is doing in the world, those niggers will make twice as many enemies as Putin did in twice the speed.

@CAPTAIN MATI you really need to stop projecting quite so hard. I get that your gimmick is "Unreasonably annoyed" or whatever, but you're embarrassing yourself.

You're just jealous of my swag.

Убей себя

Я убю твою мат кискис

 

[Übertroon]

 

[Simpadoo]

They’ve been broadcasting surrender demands for the last three days along with threats that no quarter will be given which is itself a war crime.

Eh, a war crime is whatever the winner says it is.

 

[RX-78]

The author of GATE was a pretty outspoken Japanese nationalist to the point of being fairly anti-American when he wrote it. He's since warmed up the US-Japan alliance (Operation Tomodachi has paid massive dividends in improving relations between the Japanese populace and the US military).

I don't think the JSDF is responsible so much as Japan waking up to the fact that East Asia is increasingly a dangerous place and that, if they want a say in how their allies conduct themselves in defending Japan, they need to bring actual firepower to the table. You can see this increased military consciousness all over Japanese pop culture - Sword Art Online's Alicization storyline is about the JSDF cooperating with the US military to create AI soldiers in order to reduce casualties in a war. And while it's fairly critical of the JSDF and the US military, it does show that there's an increased awareness of the issue even among Japanese normies (SAO being as normiecore as it comes these days in Japan).

I take that as the sign that the Japanese government is fully aware that America's ability to maintain vassal states is falling apart, and that their cozy relationship is coming to an end quickly.

 

[DumbDude42]

Don't think Europe will ever be that united to fully compensate America's power gap

youre right about that, but they dont have to achieve the ridiculous overkill power that americas military has. all they need is enough conventional power to be a credible threat to the russian army, which would be relatively easy.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Apparently Russia is losing Kherson, Ukrainian forces are advancing from the north and have reached the outskirts.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/25/ukrainian-troops-take-back-parts-of-kherson-from-russian-forces-us/

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

That has got to be the cutest name for a military operation I've ever heard.

I'm partial to Operation Frequent Wind myself. You can't convince me that half the people involved weren't giggling fart jokes the whole time.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

youre right about that, but they dont have to achieve the ridiculous overkill power that americas military has. all they need is enough conventional power to be a credible threat to the russian army, which would be relatively easy.

It'd be a piece of cake if Germany wasn't a punk bitch who wants to (((do business))) instead of securing their low wage laborer territories.
Literally every problem that Europe has ever dealt with was because of Germany. Unironically.

 

[Fougaro]

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Stunning and brave!

 

[kuuu]

Spoiler: Two vids that caught my attention:

Pre-war live reaction of Zelenski to Putin's proclamation that there is no alternative to Minsk treaties and special status for Donbass.

Poroshenko confirming destruction of a NATO training base that he had built himself. Not like anyone had doubts.

Fanny edit with Lukashenko

Spoiler: BONUS: Gachi muchi fanart

 

[Lone MacReady]

It completely changed the landscape of US-Japan relations and also sunk the DPJ (the Japanese left) as credible opposition for a generation. The DPJ were in power when the 2011 earthquake happened and them hemming and hawing about sending in the JSDF and requesting American assistance while the US unilaterally committed to a quick response and billions in aid played very poorly with the voters.

Japanese women, historically one of the most anti-military demographics in Japan, now view the US military more favorably than the general population of the US. And general Japanese favorability towards the US are higher than at any point since WW2.

Wonder what all the Japanese rape victims near U.S. bases think about being friends with their 70-year occupiers?

 

[76LD910]

Japan is only nominally non-nuclear. It is generally believed that they have the materials and facilities to start manufacturing nuclear weapons at a moment’s notice, and can be armed and ready within four weeks.

Abe has said japan needs an American nuke sharing program like NATO since the invasion as well, and the current goverment is just a continuation of his leadership.