Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

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  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%

  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%
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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
The street shitters do know that Russia was the one that banned Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter so only their narrative can reach Russians right?
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They know a VPN extension for Chrome is just one click away. Admittedly, reading news these days feels like wanking because you have to keep jerking it - the Western sources are blocked if you set it to Russia and Russian sources are blocked if you set it to elsewhere.
 
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LONDON, March 25 (Reuters) - In a scaled-back formulation of its war goals, Russia said on Friday that the first phase of its military operation was mostly complete and it would focus on completely "liberating" Ukraine's breakaway eastern Donbass region.

And what exactly were the goals of the first phase? What military objectives and targets mattered in Western Ukraine for their long term plan? Just fucking shit up? Seems like some big time coping from Russia and they are pivoting.
 
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Spicey McHaggis said:
Wouldn't Kalingrad have a better case for becoming the 4th Baltic state over the poles taking over? I mean it's almost entirely ethnic Russian at this point, even if somehow the poles got control of it, it would just be in a state of constant unrest.
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Apparently Germany was offered it back after reunification, but rejected it because there's nothing German about it anymore. After all, they probably need a few hundred thousand untermensch vodkanigger gopniks like a firestorm in Dresden.
 
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So, taking recent events into consideration, perhaps it's time to re-evaluate my predictions. Russia claims its new plan it always had is to focus on the breakaway states, so let's examine that. I doubt they're going to make a full-scale retreat: both the northern and southern fronts are being attacked by the Ukrainians, and coupled with the logistical troubles, attempting to bug out is going to be a nightmare. It's likely that we will see fighting continue along those fronts, but if the Russians really have decided that akshually they really only wanted Donetsk and Lugansk, then expect the Ukrainians to keep gaining ground elsewhere as Russian troops shift to the rear. Or maybe the whole fucking front will collapse and it will turn into a rout, I'm not going to call it, but at this point there is little I'd put past the Russian ability to fuck up. Russia will want to keep the land bridge to Crimea, and I'm not expecting Mariupol to hold till relieved, so we may get a second shitfuck down there, depending on who Putin tells to hold the city. I doubt Ukraine will cross the border into Belarus or Russia proper, the last thing they need is to give Putin a justification to start mass mobilization. For the first time this war, I'll actually entertain the idea of "Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022", but that decision is going to have to be made after a lot of risk/reward analysis for the same reason.

If this all pans out, I expect things to settle down approximately along the claimed borders of the breakaway states: Russia has had 8 years to fortify them, and with a significantly reduced logistical train and width of front, they stand a much better chance of holding them. Any hopes of forcing neutrality upon Ukraine are as good as dead at this point, and Russia's willingness to accept this fact will play a big part of negotiations from there. At this point, the two scenarios that stand out to me are either Ukraine ceding Russian-controlled territory to resolve the border disputes and then run to NATO, or we go back to the 2015 status quo of low-intensity conflict.

Congratulations, Vlad. You threw the dice too soon, and now you've destroyed any chance Russia had of claiming a dominant place in the post-Pax Americana world.
 
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weedcanadalolsmoke said:
And what exactly were the goals of the first phase? What military objectives and targets mattered in Western Ukraine for their long term plan?
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The demands on day one were to make Ukraine renounce its claim on Donbass and Crimea, ban Nazi ideology, give up its military and stay out of any alliances. Land bridge to Crimea and securing Crimean canal are a nice bonus. Fully occupying Ukraine was never an officially stated goal.
 
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St.Davis said:
It didn't have anything to do with the idea of annexing The Ukraine, or of Kiev specifically.

I'm not sure how you wanted me to respond to it. "Yes"?
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Let’s review. Their opening gambit was a decapitation strike aimed at the Ukrainian capitol. It stalled on Day 1 when the Russians attempted and failed to capture the airport outside of Kiev via Air Assault. The purpose of capturing an airport is to use it to fly in follow on, heavier forces to then continue the offensive outward from that point. When the offensive stalled and Zelensky began peace talks, as their price for Peace, the Russians asked for the cession of Donbas and the Crimea, a formal agreement to not join NATO or the EU, and the right to select the Prime Minister… the next in line to the presidency. Taking that deal would have been tantamount to annexation and would probably have led to it years down the road. If that’s their price for peace, they are attempting annexation.
 
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Spicey McHaggis said:
Finally, India will take the lead in weapons of mass destruction. Fuck you Pakistan, fear the space poo.
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Their time has come.
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A_Callow_Youth said:
Congratulations, Vlad. You threw the dice too soon, and now you've destroyed any chance Russia had of claiming a dominant place in the post-Pax Americana world.
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I'd say he threw the dice too late. He already invaded Crimea in 2014 and the west did nothing, all he would've had to do is go farther. Now the West is worried about the Russo-Sino alliance and has an actual reason to cripple Russia or come into conflict with them militarily.
 
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White_N said:
Pajeets are taking advantage of the war to shill their shit lmao.
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Right...they lost me when they said "overtly" instead of "overly". Saw other mistakes of English usage. If these people are putting the same level of competence into their system(s) that they put into the English of this video, there's little for the West to fear. Let's be serious....how many times have India and China fought in recent memory? I also remember not just the Sino-Soviet schism, but the Soviets wanting to nuke China in 1969 during the Ussuri River clashes. And how many street shitters live in India? And are either the ruble, rupee, or yuan hard currencies? Just my take on this thing.

Read your history, and your perspective could well change.
 
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