General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Bold move to give more of a shit about Vtuber lore post-debut than every corpo combined that's not named Mayuzumi Kai (and maybe Yuuhi Riri). Either that, or autistic, probably both.
 
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Haachama laughing at yamada refills my soul

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I grew up playing sports so I've always been apart of a team and really enjoyed the rivalry aspect of it. For that reason I dont really like it when the two play nice, call it tribalism or whatever idc.

Having said that I still completely agree with you. I think fans should be able to voice opinions but those opinions shouldn't have the power to influence anyone. I hope Ollie and Fulgur deleted the tweets because they realized it's not worth it fans are dumb instead of oh no the fans are gonna hate me.
Now that you mentioned sports, it kinda explain my position of the rivalry as well. Yeah, I agree with you, I don't really like it when they're too nice to each other since a the end of the day, they're still a competitor in the same market. Better make that distinction clearer early before something bad happened down the line
 
Now made me curious, which nijiEN members does chit chat on twitter with other holoEN members, as far as we know, Pomu talks with Kiara, Vox messages Calli, but who else?

I would like the timestamp of that statement.
Reimu and Astel (not HoloEN, I know) are quite close on Twitter. Millie is probably still in contact with members of HoloID behind the scenes, as she was close to them in her PL. I think Kiara-Pomu is the only one where we know they are messaging each other behind the scenes for sure.
 
Well nearly time for ID3 Hammer Lady really curious with this one since "mommy" community going wild

also fuck chat being down bad even she already hide it still bugging me

So what she's saying is that she is a penguin.

I hope she's aware constantly saying "I'm not a penguin" can only accomplish the opposite. Looking forward to the penguin plush and mascot.

want to have build positive community
*MOST OF THE CHAT SPAM MOMMY*
yeah good luck with that

They look horrible and distracting, jpnikis are right

For Kaela, I think I understand getting filtered by chat now. The entire chat was literally just mommy, bonk me, step on me, and "gaslighting" the whole penguin thing. Just absolute trash and rubbish. Her voice was OK, but not really "mommy" and not for me, and not too interested in her preferences in games and such. Also, it seemed like she talked in ID much more than Zeta. Nbd, she is part of the ID branch of course, but since I don't understand it and a lot of the time I'm just listening while doing other things, I pretty much only prefer majority EN talkers. So far, Zeta is much more up my alley in all respects. We'll see what Kobo is like tomorrow.

As for Kaela's boobas, I don't think they are too bad. In fact, they are probably more true-to-life than bolted on watermelons like usually happens with well-endowed anime characters/vtubers. Someone like Kronii with those massive things somehow being supported by two bits of cloth is more funny to me. I'd think all the hag lovers in here especially would understand how things work once women get out of their teens. And you can't blame the JPnikis too much, most of their IRL women don't have to worry about that kind of thing given the size of their chests, so they have no idea.


You simply have to accept that this is an aspect of the western Holo community — mostly from the people of Reddit — as they have Deified random girls LARPing as anime characters to be 'above' forgiving mere mortals (or cyborgs, I guess). Ironic, given that those same people will go to bat agains the evil Japanese idol culture for doing the exact same thing.

The fact that you always seem to pin any bad behavior only on holofans is part of your bad nijifag rep. Schizos and bad fans pop up everywhere - holo, vshoujo, niji, indie, doesn't matter.


If it were a Holo caught shit talking any Niji, I assure you Nijifans would not let that shit be shoved under the rug

Exactly. Those people exist in all of the fandoms, unfortunately.
 
Having said that I still completely agree with you. I think fans should be able to voice opinions but those opinions shouldn't have the power to influence anyone. I hope Ollie and Fulgur deleted the tweets because they realized it's not worth it fans are dumb instead of oh no the fans are gonna hate me.

This is pretty much all I was getting at. I feel like we've all been having two separate conversations at the same time.

If people don't like Fulgur, or don't want to watch him or Niji as a result of what he's said, I'll find that a bit sad but valid. That's not what I was talking about, though, because Fulgur wasn't actually the person being attacked by Antis for his words, it was Ollie being put into submission by her own fans, and I was quite surprised to see it being rationalised here. She doesn't deserve to be told her co-workers will think she's a shit person if she doesn't rescind a happy birthday message.

The fact that you always seem to pin any bad behavior only on holofans is part of your bad nijifag rep. Schizos and bad fans pop up everywhere - holo, vshoujo, niji, indie, doesn't matter.
I'm defending a member of Hololive and I'm still being called a tribalfag you literally cannot make this shit up. Thank you for proving the point I've been making constantly.

I never said it doesn't happen elsewhere, I'm talking about a specific situation that happened today involving a specific fandom. We shouldn't need to caveat everything we say to call a spade a spade.
 
Kiara, the EN most likely to overreact and make a big deal out of it, has already stated it's a nothingburger
Kiara? the same Kiara who told her whiteknighting chickens to fuck off when they tried to convince her not to stream with Nyanners after Veibae canceled? That Kiara? She didn't care about Veibae's drama and that was just as vicious and even better documented. She even ignored the Connor drama. The most likely to overreact has always been Calli. Kiara has a loud personality, but she's always been fairly professional in all her dealing with others in her field.
 
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I'm defending a member of Hololive and I'm still being called a tribalfag you literally cannot make this shit up. Thank you for proving the point I've been making constantly.

I never said it doesn't happen elsewhere, I'm talking about a specific situation that happened today involving a specific fandom. We shouldn't need to caveat everything we say to call a spade a spade.

Who cares who you are defending? The thing that matters is that you were specifically calling it a behavior of the HOLO community in your post. How about instead of saying it is fans of a specific community that are bad, you blame it on what it actually is then - shitty people. If you don't want to get called out for being shitty towards a specific community, then don't shittalk a specific community.
 
The Mumei/Gura stream will be funny, but the best thing about audience room judgment streams is seeing what kinds of super-fans the girls have. Like we could see from their room pics that Nyanners fans are wholesome-Keanu-Chungus Reddit faggots (I was surprised), Haatons are a bunch of weird old drunks with suspiciously based collectibles (I was seen), etc.

We won't really get to see what Mumei fans are like because nobody wants to look like a creep in front of Gura—only like a safe meme-creep with a little lol-jar.
 
Who cares who you are defending? The thing that matters is that you were specifically calling it a behavior of the HOLO community in your post. How about instead of saying it is fans of a specific community that are bad, you blame it on what it actually is then - shitty people. If you don't want to get called out for being shitty towards a specific community, then don't shittalk a specific community.

Lol are we on Twitter or Reddit? Why should I suddenly sugarcoat it when I can provide more accurate idea of who was replying to Ollie, but you can call me a 'Nijifag' for the crime of backing a Hololive member?

Even the people who were contesting me on this did not take the angle of 'Please refer to the obvious White Knight Holofans as 'shitty people' in case you upset some people here' because that angle is Tumblr-tier retardation.

Identifying trolls from white knights is important because it offers insight as to where everyone stands. Can Ollie talk to Fulgur without her own fans getting vocally upset? We now know the answer is no, and it's worth keeping an eye out for where her fans draw the line and if she says anything about it.

People rightly do not hesitate to mention Niji fans' involvement in Aloe's graduation but you don't see me trying to police how people go about addressing them on a Kiwi thread of all things.

People who were constantly RT'ing Ollie content were responsible for trying to shield her from Fulgur. There's no bones about it. If me saying that constitutes as 'shittalking a community' to you then sure. Go nuts.
 
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