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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Ukrainian soldiers interrogate Russian Prisoners of War and then shoot them in the legs:​



Currently still up on Reddit, if you don't want to sign in to Youtube

With this new footage of Ukrainian soldiers beating Russian prisoners and shooting the unarmed, captive men, it will be interesting to see if we are allowed to see this in our mainstream media news coverage, and more importantly discuss it as a war crime, without it being memory holed out of our consciousness.

Based on the complete absence of this story on our Sunday Morning news shows, I suspect this will get the Hunter Biden laptop treatment. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if these videos are scrubbed from Youtube since it's showing the wrong thing.
I'm pretty sure massacring civilians would make the natives very likely to shoot you. The fact that they shot only the legs is rather generous. Others might have flayed them alive and left their rotting corpses on the roads as a warning. I seem to remember than in the American Civil War, Southerners would lynch Union soldiers who "foraged" for food in the South, and left their corpses on the roads as a warning to the other Union troops.
 
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Russia has built a tented camp for Ukrainians on the country’s south-east coast, it can be revealed, amid claims tens of thousands of people are being abducted from the besieged city of Mariupol and forcibly moved across the Russian border.
Satellite images obtained exclusively by i shows up to 30 blue and white tents have been erected in a camp at a former farmer’s market in the coastal village of Bezimenne, in separatist-controlled Donetsk, only 11 miles east of the outskirts of Mariupol.
It is the first satellite imagery showing Russia may have, as it did in Chechnya, constructed “filtration” camps inside Ukraine and comes after Mariupol’s mayor Vadim Boychenko said Russian troops have forcibly deported 6,000 Mariupol residents to camps including women and children.

>Claim you're there to "denazify" the country
>Immediately start round up citizens into camps
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Honestly at this point I'd respect Putin slightly more if he just came out and publicly said "fuck Ukrainians this is our land now", instead of his playing coy bullshit.
 
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Ukrainian soldiers interrogate Russian Prisoners of War and then shoot them in the legs:​



Currently still up on Reddit, if you don't want to sign in to Youtube

With this new footage of Ukrainian soldiers beating Russian prisoners and shooting the unarmed, captive men, it will be interesting to see if we are allowed to see this in our mainstream media news coverage, and more importantly discuss it as a war crime, without it being memory holed out of our consciousness.

Based on the complete absence of this story on our Sunday Morning news shows, I suspect this will get the Hunter Biden laptop treatment. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if these videos are scrubbed from Youtube since it's showing the wrong thing.
People defending their homeland from an invading aggressor aren't angels. News at 11.
 

Ukrainian soldiers interrogate Russian Prisoners of War and then shoot them in the legs:​



Currently still up on Reddit, if you don't want to sign in to Youtube

With this new footage of Ukrainian soldiers beating Russian prisoners and shooting the unarmed, captive men, it will be interesting to see if we are allowed to see this in our mainstream media news coverage, and more importantly discuss it as a war crime, without it being memory holed out of our consciousness.

Based on the complete absence of this story on our Sunday Morning news shows, I suspect this will get the Hunter Biden laptop treatment. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if these videos are scrubbed from Youtube since it's showing the wrong thing.
You know, someone on the other thread pointed out something interesting about this. Since Russia claimed this is just "special operation" and not a war, can the captured Russian be treated as POWs in the first place? If they can't, the Ukrainian have the right to do as they please on these soldiers

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Also, apparently these Russians are artillerymen. Didn't the Ukrainian said they will give no quarter to them?
 
People defending their homeland from an invading aggressor aren't angels. News at 11.
You know, someone on the other thread pointed out something interesting about this. Since Russia claimed this is just "special operation" and not a war, can the captured Russian be treated as POWs in the first place? If they can't, the Ukrainian have the right to do as they please on these soldiers

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Also, apparently these Russians are artillerymen. Didn't the Ukrainian said they will give no quarter to them?
STFU, they were shot with their hands tied behind their backs.
 

I suspect this will get the Hunter Biden laptop treatment.​

Lol why are you faggots so insistent on that being a thing that would have or could have ever gotten anywhere

It wasn't reported on because it was desperate and autistic as fuck.

I wonder what all the people criticizing Ukraine for using a civilian militia will have to say about Putin throwing civilians at walls.
"Its ok when the side I like does it" probably

I don't like it either way but Ukraine kind of literally has no choice. Russia has the choice of not invading countries.

STFU, they were shot with their hands tied behind their backs.
You're right they should have at least shot them while facing their aggressor.
 
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Would it have been better if the Ukrainians waterboarded them with gasoline and then lit them on fire?

Yeah sadly this is how shit goes. It's a little hard to not get emotional over your home and family being blown up. I'd probably feel the desire to shoot them while their down too.

No honorable death for the invading force. Sorry. Russians aren't allowed to die heroes here.
 
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STFU, they were shot with their hands tied behind their backs.
They should be thankful for that knee shot actually, it makes it impossible for them go be sent back to the front lines if they're exchanged for anything which I'm sure Russians would do with any POWs anyway, throw them back if only so there is less witnesses that can spill the beans inside russia.
 
They should be thankful for that knee shot actually, it makes it impossible for them go be sent back to the front lines if they're exchanged for anything which I'm sure Russians would do with any POWs anyway, throw them back if only so there is less witnesses that can spill the beans inside russia.
Russians don't exactly have the best record when it comes to their own returned or rescued PoW's. In WW2 if you were captured that just meant the NKVD considered you a potential traitor to the Motherland for not defending it to your last breath. There were a surprising amount of defectors to the Germans as a result...
 
When you put a vehicle into long term storage, you're supposed to drain all the fluids and take the whole vehicle apart to keep the parts from getting clogged from aging fluids like oil and brake fluid. Leaving a vehicle in long term storage fully assembled like that is worse than driving the shit out of it because the fluids just ossify & ruin the parts they're sitting in.

Who wants to bet they just left them sitting on a repurposed airstrip for years, never replacing the fluids the same way they left the trucks out in the open for the tires to rot in the sun?
All that sounds like hard, boring work that can easily go wrong. Someone would need to audit it, that sounds even more boring - and a hassle to boot!

Alas, the USSR was known to be very meticulous in all things, even more so the Russia Federation. No nuclear meltdowns from blatant incompetence, no famines, no submarines that needed to be rescued by the evil west. Yes, Russia is a country that excels in doing the boring but necessary, and putting processes in place to ensure that there is accountability if it goes wrong...
STFU, they were shot with their hands tied behind their backs.
Unlike those children in the theatre who were a clear and present threat to the pilot, his family and Russia! In fact, I heard one drew a nasty picture of Putin and stuck it on the fridge - before their house was razed to the ground.

Look, obviously this is wrong but it's very easy to sit and criticise these people from your comfy room, when their lives have been turned upside down and their cities laid waste because some sperg with a hard on for a Russia that no longer exists is trying to LARP as Catherine the Great.

Further to this, it is clear that targeting of civilians is endemic throughout the Russian military, their treatment of prisoners is unknown but I doubt particularly in line with any standards. Is there any indication of a similar problem throughout the Ukrainian military? No, in fact many of the POWs seemed to be treated in line with what you should expect. So let's focus on the big picture, you're missing the forest for the woods, so to speak.
 
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I'm pretty sure massacring civilians would make the natives very likely to shoot you. The fact that they shot only the legs is rather generous. Others might have flayed them alive and left their rotting corpses on the roads as a warning. I seem to remember than in the American Civil War, Southerners would lynch Union soldiers who "foraged" for food in the South, and left their corpses on the roads as a warning to the other Union troops.
What the fuck is wrong with you? I guarantee you'd be making the exact inverse of this post if the uniforms were reversed.
It's been very interesting seeing this footage make the rounds and how people react to it, people like you have gone mad and don't realize it.
 
The mighty Russian army is about to scrape the bottom beneath the barrel
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By the 11th of April Army Commissaries of Bryan, Kursk and Belgorod have to provide a list of new conscripts eligible for planned mobilization for the 2022 fiscal year, ready to be deployed to the area of "The special military operation in Ukraine" :story:
So Vova is going va banque after all.
 
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