The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

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Someone took a picture of the set of the TLOU HBO show taping, which appears to have Joel and Ellie with Sam and Henry.
 
And that was the biggest evidence to my argument to Cuckmann's absolutism.

It doesnt matter even which ending was more picked, what mattered more is what HE wanted, what HE deemed fair and just. Either he was so delusional to assume that gamers at large would agree with him somehow despite evidence pointing otherwise...or he was just so arrogant to say that it didnt matter what gamers felt or wanted, only what HE wanted mattered.
If it wasn't for the gay propaganda in the game (which should be illegal), I'd feel inclined to defend him. If he's in charge, then he decides. It's his creative vision; a trainwreck but his trainwreck nonetheless.
 
If it wasn't for the gay propaganda in the game (which should be illegal), I'd feel inclined to defend him. If he's in charge, then he decides. It's his creative vision; a trainwreck but his trainwreck nonetheless.

Indeed but that only makes it more justified to pin this all on him then. Its him him him? Fine, but that includes all the criticism (oh but he doesnt want those now, does he?)
 
Reminder the Cuckman didn't even design this game's vision; he was a bitter male feminist who whined and suckled his way into the project by having the actual visionary, a woman, removed from her job.

Niel Druckmann loves women so much when they're broken, powerless, and mutilated. Hence why I always call him Cuckman, for he is a joke.
 
So, basically like the Rian Johnson Star Wars trilogy that's totally still a thing. But I don't know man, what else does Naughty Dog have at this point beyond The Last of Us? Uncharted had a fitting enough conclusion and doesn't jive with Druckman's rather nihilistic mindset, and Jak & Daxter is so old that I can see it getting farmed to another developer like what happened with Sly Cooper 4.

Maybe they'll do a new IP to give themselves some space, but I foresee them turning into a one-trick pony out of spite.
Last of Us Remake that is changed to Druckmann's liking
Last of Us Multiplayer & game as a service game that is monetized like a chinese mobile phone game
after both fail they're dead.
 
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Someone took a picture of the set of the TLOU HBO show taping, which appears to have Joel and Ellie with Sam and Henry.
I still don't get why they went with Pedro Pascal instead of Josh Brolin when Joel was obviously modeled after Brolin in the first place. It's also easier to take Brolin seriously as a grizzled motherfucker whereas Pascal kinda looks like a mouse. They're apparently paying Pascal over 600k an episode so I doubt they couldn't afford Brolin.
 
I still don't get why they went with Pedro Pascal instead of Josh Brolin when Joel was obviously modeled after Brolin in the first place. It's also easier to take Brolin seriously as a grizzled motherfucker whereas Pascal kinda looks like a mouse. They're apparently paying Pascal over 600k an episode so I doubt they couldn't afford Brolin.

I think, I could be wrong, but I think that they did it because of Pascal's popularity spiking from The Mandalorian
 
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It appears that Lamar Johnson was casted to play the role of Henry in the TLOU HBO show. He definitely looks the part, but we'll see if the acting will hold up as well, in addition to all of the changes Cuckmann is making in regards to the show, versus the game.
 
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I still don't get why they went with Pedro Pascal instead of Josh Brolin when Joel was obviously modeled after Brolin in the first place. It's also easier to take Brolin seriously as a grizzled motherfucker whereas Pascal kinda looks like a mouse. They're apparently paying Pascal over 600k an episode so I doubt they couldn't afford Brolin.
silver screen vs tv actor.
also look up their acting credits, highly doubt they could get thanos for even 600k.
 
If it wasn't for the gay propaganda in the game (which should be illegal), I'd feel inclined to defend him. If he's in charge, then he decides. It's his creative vision; a trainwreck but his trainwreck nonetheless.
I'm with Adamska and Handsome Tard on this. He can't have it both ways. Either it's 100% his vision and thus he takes all the blame, or it's a collaborative effort, in which case he doesn't get to claim any successes. It's like a teenager playing Counter Strike. "We lost this round." "I won this round."

I saw a rant a while ago (I forget who by, maybe Sargon or Critical Drinker?) that argued that when you're making a sequel to an established property you didn't create, you're a steward and should treat it as such. Druckman could have easily made Tranny Golf 2020 as a new IP, but he chose not to, instead he made The Last of Us 2.
 
I saw a rant a while ago (I forget who by, maybe Sargon or Critical Drinker?) that argued that when you're making a sequel to an established property you didn't create, you're a steward and should treat it as such. Druckman could have easily made Tranny Golf 2020 as a new IP, but he chose not to, instead he made The Last of Us 2.
I assume you mean this one:

not that I disagree, but the drinker is veering off a bit in to the anti side sometimes getting shit (intentionally or not) wrong to make a point, like comparing jjtrek vs old trek (when the whole point the scene he pulls of as "proof" happened for a very specific reason). should've compared it to the nutrek tribbles shit special everyone was ragging on nutrek years ago with.
 
I'm with Adamska and Handsome Tard on this. He can't have it both ways. Either it's 100% his vision and thus he takes all the blame, or it's a collaborative effort, in which case he doesn't get to claim any successes. It's like a teenager playing Counter Strike. "We lost this round." "I won this round."

I saw a rant a while ago (I forget who by, maybe Sargon or Critical Drinker?) that argued that when you're making a sequel to an established property you didn't create, you're a steward and should treat it as such. Druckman could have easily made Tranny Golf 2020 as a new IP, but he chose not to, instead he made The Last of Us 2.
He definitely can't have it both ways, I agree with that. However, I disagree with the idea that you ever have to be a type of "steward" when working with a game though. Unless it's a licensed game and you're given restrictions, it's up to you now.

Common wisdom would dictate that you should try to keep in spirit with what's established, but you're not the original creator and you can't be.

I think a good example is Chono Cross. It gets a lot of hate, but they forged on without the entirety of the original team and still made something good. It's different and inferior, granted, but do we really want something that's more faithful to the original but still probably inferior?

Cucktaku has a good article about how Cross is a bad sequel but a good game.
 
Uncharted's movie apparently did very well and grossed it's budget multiple times over. I don't think they're going to get rid of Drake as the center any time soon.
If Druckmann has any say whatsoever then we won't be getting Drake, he wants all the games going forward to have strong female leads and that'll be that. And if Sony forces his hand, he'll make Drake an ineffectual faggot, even worse than he was in 4.
Somebody actually made Abby as a wrestler in WWE 2K22:

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I'm not sure if this is better or worse than her actual TLOU2 looks.
It's... about on par actually. She's got bigger tits here, which is an improvement, but otherwise it's almost spot on.
 
You know when I think about how Druckmann deliberately took away player choice at the end of the game regarding Abby's fate, along with how much more control he had over the whole project, I think back to Yahtzee's review of Too Human, in which he made a criticism that could easily be applied to this game.

Too Human is a game that carries the stink of the auteur. A pet project; something that was made for the designer's sake, rather than the player's. It proudly announces its intention to be the first part of an epic trilogy, which in terms of tempting fate, is right up there with a character in a horror movie uttering the words "Everything's going to be all right", then getting their tits out. Too Human: Episode One (or whatever they end up calling it) has a measly four missions, each one fattened up into hours of endless waves of the same four or five baddies in huge, repetitive environments that only exacerbate the frustration caused by Baldur's toe-curlingly slow movement speed (or perhaps I should call it "Baldur's Gait").

If there really is an entire trilogy of this worked out, a better idea would be to combine them into one game, cutting all the missions down to one-third of their intended length. But that won't happen, because an auteur developer would sooner take the trimming scissors to their own eyeballs than their beloved magnum opus, and you're left with a game experience that could be re-created by walking down a wide road in the middle of nowhere, stopping every five steps to crack yourself in the eye with a hammer... And the road is a million miles long... And the hammer is made of wank.
Just replace the whole trilogy idea with what Neil chose to do to leave the player feeling the way he wants them to, and it's shockingly accurate.
 
Something that might've helped Abby's story would be if Lev's mother herself started a revenge hunt of her own.

Basically the mother went after her children in order to save face or stay in the good graces of the group.

Abby would be forced to kill the mom to protect both siblings with Lev hating her for it.

The sister dies later on and with only Lev left who depends on her Abby realizes why Joel killed her dad.

Angry lesbian comes in and aborts the pregnant woman and her boyfriend forces her to go after said lesbians again.

Asian man and the cuck die in that fight and Lev just wants to leave with Abbie since he/she considers the whole revenge plot to be pointless.
That....sounds interesting
 
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