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Not trying to shit up the thread, but part of the rejection of this book is the rejection of the ideia that men are violent, like that they act that way because of the enviroment and culture and not because they are bunch of murderous psychopaths, didn't this ideia spawned from the mainstream liberal feminism? That says that men can be feminists too and that they are also oppressed by the patriarchy basically a feminism that paths the men's heads by saying that they are good boys and etc... Like its goes against the well accepeted western ideia that everyone is born good and that its the environment that shapes the person, when in reality not everyone is equal, some are born good some evil and etc... I might be talking shit, since i know jackshit about feminism so idk, and the troon talking about the power vacuum that would come with the extiction of men, what power vacuum? In the military and criminals gangs? Since i think that this would still be thing even without men, yeah, it would have a power vacuum in thoses, but not in the rest, at least in the western world, like isn't that some sort of denial of reality? That the world would be in fact better without men? Why its hurt so much to admit that?
 
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Please note that he only wants the MOST critical to fill out his poll, of course for research purposes.
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Not trying to shit up the thread, but part of the rejection of this book is the rejection of the ideia that men are violent, like that they act that way because of the enviroment and culture and not because they are bunch of murderous psychopaths, didn't this ideia spawned from the mainstream liberal feminism? That says that men can be feminists too and that they are also oppressed by the patriarchy basically a feminism that paths the men's heads by saying that they are good boys and etc... Like its goes against the well accepeted western ideia that everyone is born good and that its the environment that shapes the person, when in reality not everyone is equal, some are born good some evil and etc... I might be talking shit, since i know jackshit about feminism so idk, and the troon talking about the power vacuum that would come with the extiction of men, what power vacuum? In the military and criminals gangs? Since i think that this would still be thing even without men, yeah, it would have a power vacuum in thoses, but not in the rest, at least in the western world, like isn't that some sort of denial of reality? That the world would be in fact better without men? Why its hurt so much to admit that?

It's more broadly a western idea that humans are "tabula rasa" and that there are no inbuilt difference between the sexes. Feminism has taken that up to argue that masculine traits like propensity to violence is purely a social construct.

Though I have to say that people assume women would cooperate instantly really don't understand how female intrasexual competition works. Males and females across the animal kingdom compete differently and have different interests in sexual selection, but both sexes do compete. As much as it is a stereotype, there's plenty of studies that have looked at women's indirect aggression (cattiness, undermining, etc.) as an evolutionary trait, and it really does seem to be a mechanism for undermining rivals for mates. Men compete directly and aggressively, but are more able to forgive after direct confrontation. Women compete more subtly, but are more likely to hold grudges and view each other as long term competition. Men are more risk prone, women are more likely to be long term strategic thinkers, especially as concerns offspring and making sure they have competitive advantages. Because making sure their offspring have the best genes, and the clearest competitive field, is how females display their genetic fitness. At the same time, women form alliances differently than men, but both sexes are able to put aside competition for broader group needs. People want to pretend that humans have somehow escaped the underlying reason for sexual selection, but we haven't. This is part of the stupidity of troonism, especially MTF troonism, because the way the talk about femininity makes it really clear they don't understand how women actually behave with one another, they just have the sugary sweet illusion that women are all soft and helpful and love each other. No troon is pining after being ostracized for having pissed off the wrong women accidentally.

E: Admitting that male sexuality has an inherent potential risk to it that socialization won't wish away is also poison for troon arguments. It doesn't have to be true for every man. Just that fact that a certain subset of men will tend towards predatory expressions of sexuality should make people question their desire to access women's spaces, because of pure advantages of strength.

Enough evopsych :politisperg:


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First, this trigger warning shit is another wokist shibboleth that I find fucking exhausting. I have never been raped, but it seems to be me that the inability to even say the word sort of robs you of the ability to address concerns about it or approach the topic constructively. This shit, where people are censoring uses of a word, that isn't even being used in jest or to insult, because of the hypothetical panic attacks it could induce in people they don't know, is crazy.

Second, would a dude who lied about his dick size be able to declare "microphallophobia" if you decided you didn't want to sleep with him when you saw it?

Incidentally, here's what this "dude" looks like:
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Don't worry about men wanting to pick you up, regardless of dick size.




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Guys, we don't know the pain of not having "rep" in video games. Though I'm struggling to think of a way that you could even include a MTF trans character into a narrative that wouldn't have them REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEing about choosing to not make them pass perfectly as trans women. All the FTM characters mentioned specifically don't pass. You as a player, and your character in game, are supposed to clock that it's a woman occupying a man's role. I guess because the Joan of Arc narrative is more understood within fantasy/genre fiction.
 
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4th grade? Too young to even think about puberty, let alone decide you want to join the alphabet soup for the rest of your life

More like he groomed the kids
When I was in 3rd grade, some other kid told me that during puberty your dick falls off and you grow a new one. I believed it for awhile. Kids do not and cannot understand the consequences of transition or puberty blockers. Anyone who thinks kids can consent to these decisions is someone who will benefit from kids being seen as able to consent.
 
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First, this trigger warning shit is another wokist shibboleth that I find fucking exhausting. I have never been raped, but it seems to be me that the inability to even say the word sort of robs you of the ability to address concerns about it or approach the topic constructively. This shit, where people are censoring uses of a word, that isn't even being used in jest or to insult, because of the hypothetical panic attacks it could induce in people they don't know, is crazy.
They censored it in the screenshot but then right away threw out a trigger warning about RAPE in capital letters at the start of the tweet.

Trigger warnings have been researched and have been found to either do nothing or make things worse. As the research did not begin with a trigger warning about its findings, it has been ignored by Woko Haram.
 
RE "trans" Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk wrote another novel with a trans character (Invisible Monsters), so they can claim that one instead. It's probably not something they'd want though and is considered transphobic by today's standards. It's been a long time since I've read it but I think the guy got sexually abused and tries to become someone else / turn into his sister by getting a sex change and surgery.
Anyway, the portrayal of the struggle with masculinity etc in FC has nothing to do with trannydom. They can fuck off.
 
Dear Katy. Where I come from, you can withdraw consent of organ donation at any time. You cannot take those organs by force unless you want to mimic the Chinese. If you do, that's unethical. You are not entitled to women's wombs, Colin.
To be fair, he is correct that it's insane. Why reject the chance to cause an AGP's kidneys to fail from beyond the grave?

Not trying to shit up the thread, but part of the rejection of this book is the rejection of the ideia that men are violent, like that they act that way because of the enviroment and culture and not because they are bunch of murderous psychopaths, didn't this ideia spawned from the mainstream liberal feminism? That says that men can be feminists too and that they are also oppressed by the patriarchy basically a feminism that paths the men's heads by saying that they are good boys and etc... Like its goes against the well accepeted western ideia that everyone is born good and that its the environment that shapes the person, when in reality not everyone is equal, some are born good some evil and etc... I might be talking shit, since i know jackshit about feminism so idk, and the troon talking about the power vacuum that would come with the extiction of men, what power vacuum? In the military and criminals gangs? Since i think that this would still be thing even without men, yeah, it would have a power vacuum in thoses, but not in the rest, at least in the western world, like isn't that some sort of denial of reality? That the world would be in fact better without men? Why its hurt so much to admit that?

I think it's mostly just reverse-engineered from the primordial untouchable belief that these people must conform to in order to continue to be accepted by their tribe (Trans Women Are Women). If you admit that genes relating to biological sex might influence behavior, then you might have to admit that male genes might cause males to behave differently from women, and that causes cognitive dissonance related to the TWAW idea. Therefore, men are not influenced by their genes.

On the other hand, I doubt this kind of thinking could have taken hold if there was not already fertile ground for it: American society in general (not just liberalism) relies heavily on the idea of individualism and self-reliance and merit, and the idea of people being influenced by their genes (and therefore potentially limited by their genes) does not sit well with that mythos. Fredrik DeBoer talks a lot about this and gets shunned by the left for it, even though he's a leftist. But I think most right-wing Americans think similarly, even if they use it to justify different things. The idea of the infinite-potential blank-slate individual is so pervasive in American culture that most of us don't even notice it.
 
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Fight club is a trans movie because Bob had tits? Cause I can't think of anything else
It's about masculinity, ergo it's about trans. The things with troons is that they seem to think cis people don't have any struggles societal expectations of their sex. Hell, woke people in general seem to struggle a lot with the idea of masculinity. Because of the absolutism of privilege theory, they find it difficult to conceive of normal men having any issues whatsoever with their identities. So there's a lot of filtering any message about masculinity as being about troon masculinity specifically, because cis men can't be having emotional arcs lol.
 
Has anybody else noticed most so-called ''transbians'' are weebs with anime girl pics and shit? Like wholesomeyurimemes has a correlation of 55.74 with Actuallesbians. Which is ironically completely and utterly overrun by autogynephilic troons.
Yes almost all trannies online are shut-in losers that love cartoonish video games and anime. These forms of media offer an escape from their dreadful lives and it consumes their entire being. And thankfully for them, there's many online communities full of the same degenerates to welcome them in!
 
Thanks for this.

I still can't understand why people refuse to talk about the bill with it's actual name.
"Don't say gay" sounds like it's a meanie poo poo head anti-gay law.
It's actual name, Parental Rights - sounds infinitely more reasonable.

A Bill comes out to block teachers from secretly and openly teaching Kindergarten Grade through Third Grade about sex and sexuality, and blocks them from using graphically explicit materials.

People getting mad over it can't seem to explain why teaching a Kindergarten kid about sex and sexuality is a good thing.
 
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