Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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Should we celebrate if he's found guilty? I mean, Chris feels no remorse for what he did. Or should we pay our condolences since this is the final era of Chris as we speak?
Not sure as a community what people should do, but I can imagine how I'd feel if/when he is found guilty. It'd feel almost satisfying just knowing of all the horrible things he's done and just how fucked up he is in the head. After all these years, finally. And I can just imagine how it'd be for him. Maybe he'll realize that fictional characters don't actually exist, and he isn't the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. But I have a feeling that he'd just continue writing absolutely insane prison letters for a while.
 
So if Chris gets sent to the asylum how long do you think it would take for the christory community to die off?

They're not called asylums anymore, they're called state hospitals. And Chris is probably in one right now, though not for incapacity. His review will happen in July, where they'll either let him out or keep him in for another stretch.
 
I mean I think it's pretty obvious Chris is going to be found insane.
Nope, a fucking annoyance. He does display reduced competence though. Hell, he's the poster manchild for it.

Best case he's declared a ward of the state and civilly committed for the rest of his life as a danger to himself and others. The judge and prosecution know his record, misdemeanors don't mean shit to him, and while lifetime care isn't cheap it doesn't come out of the judge's or prosecutor's pocket. Letting him free to soul bond Barb again will get taken up by a politician or journalist and their careers will be over.

Heilberg won't go for a felony plea bargain and it's doubtful the prosecutor can win a jury trial for rape so if they're going to keep him past July a declaration of incompetence is their best bet.

The chimpout will be epic, and sadly unrecorded.
 
Nope, a fucking annoyance. He does display reduced competence though. Hell, he's the poster manchild for it.

Best case he's declared a ward of the state and civilly committed for the rest of his life as a danger to himself and others. The judge and prosecution know his record, misdemeanors don't mean shit to him, and while lifetime care isn't cheap it doesn't come out of the judge's or prosecutor's pocket. Letting him free to soul bond Barb again will get taken up by a politician or journalist and their careers will be over.

Heilberg won't go for a felony plea bargain and it's doubtful the prosecutor can win a jury trial for rape so if they're going to keep him past July a declaration of incompetence is their best bet.

The chimpout will be epic, and sadly unrecorded.
Yeah, ward of the state seems likely purely because it's the only way to ensure Chris remains supervised for the rest of his life. While the worst he's done ultimately is minor in the super big picture (he hasn't murdered anybody at the very least), it's a preventative measure at this point to make sure he doesn't cross that threshold of morality. Because as Chris has demonstrated all through his life, once he crosses a "line" he never goes back, because the mere act of doing something and it not immediately harming him (and I mean immediate, because he blames Null for his current situation and not the fact he outright committed a felony) etches in his brain that this previously verboten thing is actually A-OK. Alcohol, going trans (even though his "gender dysphoria" is entirely superficial as it slips far too often for it to be genuine if you ask me, but I'm no shrink), and of course fucking his own mother.
 
Best case he's declared a ward of the state and civilly committed for the rest of his life as a danger to himself and others. The judge and prosecution know his record, misdemeanors don't mean shit to him, and while lifetime care isn't cheap it doesn't come out of the judge's or prosecutor's pocket. Letting him free to soul bond Barb again will get taken up by a politician or journalist and their careers will be over.

Civil commitment is a tall order. Virginia does have loosened civil commitment requirements for certain sex crimes, however incest is not one of them. Unless they've brought much more serious charges than we know of, that's not going to happen unless Chris is ruled incapacitated.

Although an interesting feature of the law is that if you are unrestoreably IST, you can receive civil commitment if you're just charged with the crime -- they don't have to convict you.
 
A bit of a random question/ thought, but we've collectively done a fair bit of the research required to write a general-interest short book/ long article about the processes around mental health and the law. There's certainly many books about historical abuses and contemporary activism around it, but a purely descriptive approach seems more rare.

Plus, I think it would be very funny if a useful resource for information on the topic springs out from the Chris-Chan board on Kiwi-Farms ;)
 
A bit of a random question/ thought, but we've collectively done a fair bit of the research required to write a general-interest short book/ long article about the processes around mental health and the law. There's certainly many books about historical abuses and contemporary activism around it, but a purely descriptive approach seems more rare.

Plus, I think it would be very funny if a useful resource for information on the topic springs out from the Chris-Chan board on Kiwi-Farms ;)
lmao we haven't done dick. We're a bunch of town yokels gossiping outside the courthouse. Our legal analysis of the situation does about as good for anyone as a fart in an elevator
 
So if Chris gets sent to the asylum how long do you think it would take for the christory community to die off?
I think it will take a few weeks after all people would discuss what's going to happen to him find information on the place
-the cwcki will finally have its final entry
-a few books will be written by some of the weens here
-a few case studies will be made
-he might get a footnote in a psychology textbook
-a law and order SVU episode will pop up that bears striking resemblance to this case although the tagline will say it's not based on any real events or people
-probably a movie will be made
-geno will have an end to his documentary series
-the Chris Chan YouTubers will die off
-and finally Chris will drift into absolute obscurity only being mentioned as a meme that occasionally pops up


I know others are disappointed about this end but if you think about it it is fitting. And the story did end with a bang. I mean I always thought the story would end with Chris having a heart attack but having him in a asylum that a better end to the story of Chris chan
 
That seems optimistic. It would have to be extremely sanitized to the point of being unrecognizable.
Not only that, but the Venn diagram of the people willing to touch the subject matter and the people who actually have ability/resources to pull it off does not really have an intersection. First, the movie would be impossible to market. Sure, this forum might find it funny, but no matter how you slice it, all general population would see in it is a movie that makes fun of a mentally ill person. No one with any self-respect would want a part in that. Second, while there is volumes of information available about him, Chris's life doesn't really have a narrative arc, so to speak (unless going lower and lower counts). What would the movie be about anyway? Two hours of having cybersex with "theoretical girlfriends", drawing Sonichu (this alone would bring a lawsuits from Nintendo and Sega), trooning out an hour into the movie, spending the rest begging for money and LARPing, and then the movie just ends with Chris getting Shanghai'd up the river. While there are individual funny moments from his life, it seems nigh impossible to sew these together into a clear narrative. At best, someone could pay homage by taking some of these events and adapting into plot points of unrelated stories. Other than that, the subject matter is so toxic that it's a complete no-go.
 
Not only that, but the Venn diagram of the people willing to touch the subject matter and the people who actually have ability/resources to pull it off does not really have an intersection. First, the movie would be impossible to market. Sure, this forum might find it funny, but no matter how you slice it, all general population would see in it is a movie that makes fun of a mentally ill person. No one with any self-respect would want a part in that. Second, while there is volumes of information available about him, Chris's life doesn't really have a narrative arc, so to speak (unless going lower and lower counts). What would the movie be about anyway? Two hours of having cybersex with "theoretical girlfriends", drawing Sonichu (this alone would bring a lawsuits from Nintendo and Sega), trooning out an hour into the movie, spending the rest begging for money and LARPing, and then the movie just ends with Chris getting Shanghai'd up the river. While there are individual funny moments from his life, it seems nigh impossible to sew these together into a clear narrative. At best, someone could pay homage by taking some of these events and adapting into plot points of unrelated stories. Other than that, the subject matter is so toxic that it's a complete no-go.
That’s why, as I was misunderstood in another thread, I thought to make it a Sundance-y art house indie flick, but essentially blaming everything horrific on the transgender and gender confusion issues, and not once mentioning or even implying spectrum issues.

Mostly because the anger and reeing from the troon quarters would be so fucking hilarious.

More so because recent films in this vein are all about showing how trans people are the greatest people and society just hates them! ;)
 
I think the tale of Chris could have lent itself to an indy comic strip back when there was cool edgy stuff going on. Just the weirdness of his day to day life in small pieces. But it’s all punching down now and it takes a special kind of person to think it’s funny.
 
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