Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Narcotics]

Just when you think you've fucking seen it all. Somebody actually drew Pony-NATO and Pony-Ukraine anal vore.

Spoiler: NSFL

Spoiler: I'm fucking warning you, you'll want to gouge your eyes out with a screwdriver

Spoiler: Last chance

This is exactly how the conflict will be remembered by historians; that time the US tried to cram Ukraine up NATO's ass. This must be printed out and placed in a time capsule for future generations wandering the post-nuclear wasteland who might be curious how things ended up so utterly fucked.
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The fact that the most significant war in europe since ww2 and this are coexisting in the same time is the most bizarre thing for me.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

About that Macron call earlier today, guys. He once again told Putin France will not pay for the gas in roubles.

So Putin is shutting the gas down.

Bravo, Emmanuel! Bravo!

Well played.

From comments:
"- Вот вам рубли. Распространите среди Евросоюза. - А если... - А если не будут брать - отключим газ!"

"- Here are rubles. Distribute in the EU. - What if... - What if they won't take them - turn off the gas!"

 

[Richardface]

Today, Institute for the Study of war dropped an analysis on how shit is going for the russians in ukraine, here's a summary.
RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MARCH 29

Spoiler: sperg

1. Russia haven't abandoned attacks on Kiv yet but continue fighting to hold their posts close to the city
2. Badly damaged units are withdrawing to Russia from other areas near to Kyiv and Cherniviv.
3. Russian high command have likely concluded they can't seize Kyiv or move artillery closer to the city center
4. Russian high command may have decided to stop trying to force units that have had devastating losses to continue hopeless offensive operatations.
6. Insteady they likely continue to feed new batallinos into the battle as they become available from elsewhere
7. The negotiators are likely trying to recast these necessary military decisions as concessions to facilitate peace, and they may be doing that to concearl the fact that they have accepted failure of that entire operation to capture Kyiv.

I.e. they are still keeping up a presence there, don't want to admit defeat and just withdraw but they are keeping it minimal as they have likely accepted they can never win Kyiv - as a military assessment.

They may attempt to take the whole of the Donetsk and Luhansk region (this would includ Mariupol). Mariupol is likely to fall within days - they have likey bisected or even trisected it so that the remaining fighters are in unconnected pockets now. But it's unclear how much htey have by way of fighters for their objectives in Donbas if that's their aim.

So that is beginning to shape up as a possible aim for Putin - to try to take all the Donbas reagion and to keep a token presence near Kyiv to keep the Ukrainians engaged there while they do their offensive in the East. They might or might not have enough soldiers for that, the ISW are unable to say if this is a realistic military aim. Much of the best Ukrainian soldiers are in the region near Donbas too. So it wouldn't be an easy fight.

But if Putin is stalling, then this might be why he is stalling??

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The Russians have not yet abandoned their attacks on Kyiv, claims by Russian Defense Ministry officials notwithstanding. Russian forces continued fighting to hold their forwardmost positions on the eastern and western Kyiv outskirts even as badly damaged units withdrew to Russia from elsewhere on the Kyiv and Chernihiv axes. The Russian high command has likely concluded that it cannot seize Kyiv and may not be able to move artillery closer to the center of the city. It may have decided to stop its previous practices of forcing units that have already taken devastating losses to continue hopeless offensive operations and of feeding individual battalion tactical groups into the battle as they become available rather than concentrating them to achieve decisive effects. Russian officials are likely casting these decisions driven by military realities as overtures demonstrating Russia’s willingness to engage in serious ceasefire or peace negotiations, possibly to conceal the fact that they have accepted the failure of their efforts on the Kyiv axis.
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Immediate items to watch

• Russian forces will likely capture Mariupol or force the city to capitulate within the coming days;
• Russian reinforcements may enable a renewed Russian offensive through Slovyansk to link up with Russian forces in Luhansk Oblast;
• Russian withdrawals from near Kyiv and Chernihiv will become significant if Russian troops begin to pull back from front-line positions around either city.

Insitute for the Study Of War is a neocon thinktank

 

[Uncle Buck]

Because germans ruin everything, it's not just a modern thing.

They were “Nazis” long before Cpl. Hitler and the NSDAP.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The intro of World in Conflict had a brief scene of Americans and Soviets fighting over a Burger King.

Around 1:12, but I think the entire intro is kino as fuck.

After the Civil War, America had to resort to using Burgers to reunite the far flung States of the Union. Now with America being the primary source of global stability and trade, the need for Burgers is even greater. For without Burgers America cannot function, and if America cannot function the world will descend into Amarchy and dissolution. Without a doubt the Burger is the most important commodity on the planet. He who controls the Burgers controls the world.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Insitute for the Study Of War is a neocon thinktank

I agree with some of it, best case realistic scenario is an east of the Dnieper solution, which doesn't include Odessa since that's a fortress and they can't even think about attacking it yet. Kiev is similar, it's a fortress at this point and hasn't been cut off from supplies yet.

Overall the Russian invasion isn't failing, but if they don't manage to encircle the troops in Donbass within two or three weeks, it is definitely in danger of failing.

 

[cistendered]

Cinematic cut of the Russian's taking the Azov base in Mariupol. Features gratuitous firing of an APC's machine gun at an empty building for no reason. Azog guys get -10 Nazi pts for having the shitty translation of Mein Kampf.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

They were “Nazis” long before Cpl. Hitler and the NSDAP.

Unironicly, yes in many ways. The nazis didn't really have a single truly original idea. It was a mix and mash of ideologies and existing beliefs.

 

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[Spicey McHaggis]

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Countdown til they just erase the letter z from the alphabet starting now....

 

[Josterman]

Here is guide "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb,"

That makes better.

Ngl, I didn't want to go to work tomorrow anyway

Get out of the cities when you can.

I won't be panicking or losing sleep about any of this until the moment my retinas are being boiled out of my skull from the initial nuclear flare. By that time I won't have much to care about anymore anyway, cause I'll be dead.

Living will envy the dead.

IF, big IF. Nothing is set in stone. It's not worth being constantly dooming over it. If you want to do something productive, buy some food, water and other supplies as a precaution. Whatever you do, the worst option is panicking.

I’m trying to remain calm.

 

[DumbDude42]

A revolution was happening there sooner or later, the Germans maybe sped it up a few years. Though the irony is wonderful to be honest, and it is part of the long Germanic tradition of doing fucktarded shit.

the first russian revolution, the one that resulted in the tsar relinquishing his power, had already happened before the germans brought lenin to russia again

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution

 

[Matt Damon]

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"We will show that we're better than the barbarous Russians and the dictator Putin by making political dissent illegal."

 

[The Good Nigger]

a lot of people are predicting Russia being a pariah for the entire West is going to cause another exodus of specialists

There's nothing to predict. A lot of people who were eyeing the door fucked off already in the first few days. Mostly higher-status, higher-education, intelligentsia types.
Russian Telegram channels are now full of whining by those people who cry how hard it is to have left your people, to feel like a traitor, and about finding themselves among tongue-clicking euro heathens who share nothing in common with you.

Personal prediction - most of those who left a month ago will get over themselves, outgrow this childish infantilism, and come back soon enough.

If anything - people were leaving Russia, because they had no trust in its future as a state. And now it's making a solid claim it's a sovereign country, and not just another eternal shithole pretending to be a real country a-la Ukraine.

 

[Uncle Buck]

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Hmmmm… I don’t know how long his twatter history is, but I wonder if he ever expressed such sentiments for the thousands of murdered LPR and DPR citizens - murdered by his illegitimate coup regime because they no longer wanted to be “Ukrainians” after the coup that brought it to power?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

There are less than 800 Azov members aka 0.4% of the whole active ukrop forces and they're spread out in at least 3 cities. Yet retards like you cope and seethe 24/7 about Azov and swallow every piece of propaganda the russians shit out that blame everything under the sun on Azov or saying that every single soldier is part of Azov. Talking about vatniks clouding your common sense lmao

How do you know? Did you take a poll? Those A3OB niggers have been gassing themselves up and shilling their retarded Nazi cosplay all over the internet years before war broke out so they probably had a bunch of foreigners larping along with them, not to mention other Ukes. Stop apologizing for discount Nazi larpers.

 

[MrJokerRager]

IS-3 was developed during wartime with limited resources, all things considered it wasn't a bad design for its time. It ended up being the main design that all Soviet cold war tanks drew inspiration from, can see it from the lines. The main thing that killed it off was a change in doctrine, it was built to fight German tanks, not wage war in a post-nuclear Europe. And yeah, they had a lot of crazy prototypes for tanks, that was kind of a hallmark. My favorite was the flying tank one, the A-40.

The other problem was giving IS-3 and IS-8 tanks to the Egyptians, and then watching Israelis with M46 Pattons and Centurion tanks just obliterate them with ease.

 

[Richardface]

If anyone has 2 hours to spare this Scott Ritter interview is pretty interesting, He's famous for being an ex-marine corps US weapons inspector who was unpersoned for pointing out Iraq did not in fact have weapons of mass destruction. Slightly wary of his take as he does seem a bit too "understanding" of Russia in some instances (Putin is not a nice guy and while less corrupt than the average ex-soviet bear he is certainly corrupt)

https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=lenEcP4yRPk

@JosephStalin would be interested in your take as a fellow graduates of the 80's US military and russian language goon

 

[Feline Supremacist]

War Cat for March 29, 2022

Nurse Kot will purr your injuries away but only if you post Spasiba Koshka (Спасибо, Кошка) in this thread.

 

[Chandelier]

Well, the Russians better pack it in. They just don't know what asphalt roads or lamp posts are, despite knowing how to work an iPhone to find out where Redditors are. They fear a free press and democracy in Ukraine, which makes a lot more money than them.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508398726099914756
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That's right, guys. Ukraine wasn't the poorest nations in Europe or the highest in sex trafficking. It was a land of opportunity, with Teslas around every corner, with a free press (forget that coup, Putin bot!) and lakes of solid gold.




I don't know if Sergej knows this, but...lots of American roads look like that. Infrastructure is crumbling. Asphalt splits apart in cold winters and you have nasty potholes. If you're Canadian you know how this works. And since they simply fill the holes because it's cheaper to do, the holes get bigger and bgger.

Sergej was not born in Russia. He was born in Germany. Depending on who you ask, though, it fluctuates between being born in Russia or Germany, but he spends all his time in Berlin. Among the civilized folk.

Looks no different from Philadelphia. Honestly.

Again...lots of places in 'advanced' US look like this. You can take photos of Detroit and find many buildings abandoned or destroyed.


The sources might be a translation error, but they mention sewage, not potable water. In any case, this guy, a cosmopolitan, is showing his disdain for the poors.



Some responses.



Imagine these vaccinated, 'educated' better-than-you shitlibs saying this about any other group. About Syrian refugees not knowing how to use a toilet and smear shit on the walls. You'd never hear the end of it.



Good luck, you won't convince the wealthy shitlibs they're wrong.


The response to this was that many Americans don't live in poverty and do in fact have access to running water.

For now.


Hey, remember those jokes about Poles putting mug handles inside of mugs?


TBH I have heard this story before. Some of these might be true as they retain a sense of consistency, but all of these people saying it are fine calling Russians retarded while they live as far away from the scum of their communities.


At one point, not even most Americans had access to indoor toilets in the 30's and 40s. They were still in a depression. Most people didn't even have food. The allure of American wealth was fake.


Examining the Twitter accounts of these people there is a trend:
- Overwhelmingly liberal, pro Democrat
- Believed in RussiaGate
- Think J6 was a coup
- Have no actual thoughts of their own.


Doesn't know what an asphalt road is, but knows how to use a smartphone.

Just know: Sumlenny has lived his entire life in Berlin. He wouldn't spend a day in one of those poor areas because it'd be unfitting for him. It's akin to Pelosi saying she represents the poor while her district is a literal shithole.


Time2Think here has ALL the coverage you need on Ukraine. There is no individual thought; all she does is reblog Kyiv Independent and prominent Democrats. Here's Aaron Rupar:


Glenn is right though. There is intense propaganda going on and we've all seen it. Yelling that your detractors are all Putin bots is a straight Dem playbook.



Crimea voted in a 2014 referendum, when Obama was in power, to join Russia. Crimea has always been separate from Ukraine and Russia; the Crimean Tatars are a separate ethnic group who took ethnic Slavs as slaves for the Turks. Nice piece of history these people deliberately leave out. Peter the Great tried to seize it but failed; Catherine the Great managed to do it. Crimean Tatars are Muslim while Ukrainians are Christian.

I am BEGGING these pundits to read a book other than their NeoCon trash.


Troll Hunter here reblogs nothing but the NATO-funded Kyiv Independent and Democrats. And what they all have in common is that their four years of RussiaGate hysteria has led to this:


Russians are the only people you can call retards. You can't call anyone else that. But they're free game. Do these Ukrainians think the Western (Jewish) elite will care for them if they sell out everyone else?