General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

/vt/ is a tribalistic cesspool of degeneracy. You are either a nijinigger or a holofag.
Does vshojo count as a large corpo now because of 11+ million venture capital?

Anyway, while the large corpos dominate /vt/, the small corpos and indies still have a decent amount of representation.
Pippa for example has inclined to the point of getting multiple antis who will use her as bait for shitposting between the large corpos. She is also one of the catalysts that have helped all of the small corpos get noticed more often, moreso with Lumi and playing on the cross-company minecraft server with Tsunderia and Prism Project.

Kind of weird to think of this as one of the faces of small corpos, but she really is.
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Anyway, while the large corpos dominate /vt/, the small corpos and indies still have a decent amount of representation.
Pippa for example has inclined to the point of getting multiple antis who will use her as bait for shitposting between the large corpos. She is also one of the catalysts that have helped all of the small corpos get noticed more often, moreso with Lumi and playing on the cross-company minecraft server with Tsunderia and Prism Project.

Kind of weird to think of this as one of the faces of small corpos, but she really is.
Autism Pipkin brings people together
 
Does vshojo count as a large corpo now because of 11+ million venture capital?
Huh, you're right. I just normally see those two factions duking it out more often than a lot of other VTuber agencies.

On another note, Watson apparently studied to become a paramedic? Do we have any old Sachi fans who can verify that or a clip where she states it?
 
Does vshojo count as a large corpo now because of 11+ million venture capital?

Anyway, while the large corpos dominate /vt/, the small corpos and indies still have a decent amount of representation.
Pippa for example has inclined to the point of getting multiple antis who will use her as bait for shitposting between the large corpos. She is also one of the catalysts that have helped all of the small corpos get noticed more often, moreso with Lumi and playing on the cross-company minecraft server with Tsunderia and Prism Project.

Kind of weird to think of this as one of the faces of small corpos, but she really is.
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You know what would add to that aesthetic? Add in some more detail there like adding some trash and roaches beside her. Couple that with that dude's hyper-realistic pic of Pippa. The dirty white bedsheet's just meh.
 
Does vshojo count as a large corpo now because of 11+ million venture capital?

Anyway, while the large corpos dominate /vt/, the small corpos and indies still have a decent amount of representation.
Pippa for example has inclined to the point of getting multiple antis who will use her as bait for shitposting between the large corpos. She is also one of the catalysts that have helped all of the small corpos get noticed more often, moreso with Lumi and playing on the cross-company minecraft server with Tsunderia and Prism Project.

Kind of weird to think of this as one of the faces of small corpos, but she really is.
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An EN indie, or small corpo at this point is either going to be either discount Pippa, or Pippa adjacent, or a generic e-thot with an anime avatar, I have found no in-between.
 
Who knows exactly what it means, but some level of boundary-crossing was coming sooner or later given the goobers who showed up to that con and waited for her at the front gate back in Summer/Fall last year. Probably not just dick pics or whatever considering that most of these women probably receive their fair share of that already.
Maybe she got approached on the street or at some 7-eleven or some shit. Sperg probably screamed "HEY KIARA" at her.

On the topic of harrasing vtuber roomates: What are your bets that at least one of the audience will show with a Calli cosplay or reference at DDK appearance on that Hawaii convention? Like, come on, it will be the closest you can possibly be IRL to Calli, but im afraid that will end on some yab like Kiara is experiencing.
You can bet that there will be a ton of Hololive cosplayers in the crowd.

The Chance is 100% , it was 100% before she was even announced to be there im sure, but im sure DDK and the organizers already have accounted for it , DDK is way more popular and well known than Keeki so im sure security is good around her.
At this point, she probably got more fans that came from Holo than what she originally had. The same fans will also whale for her on her DDK account.

It's gonna happen 100% im sure she'll have security or something like that come along and take them away. I know shes branching out with the DD persona but doing a convention when youre a well known Vtuber is an idiot move lmao. Either a huge nothing or a big yab is incoming save the date.
It wont be as bad as what Kiara was dealing with back in her Keeki days lmao. Some dude literally harassed her, sent flowers to her address, stalked her and made up claims that ended her idol career.
But i can imagine something going down for Karen
Im honestly surprised that Cover allow this i know they stated that they dont take notice into a talents private life but if she does go there and actually interact with fans that show up for calli then i can imagine Cover stepping in
Cover cant really do much especially since she already had somewhat of a presence online on her alt. At least more of a presence than the random roommate accounts the other girls have to bitch and moan since she actually created content and did live shows. I think Cover doesn't mind as long as she doesn't mention or talk about herself being Calli. Even if everyone knows.


Been lurking the thread since Myth debuted, felt like finally making an account just to comment on this -

If I'd known about DDK guesting at this con I could have actually went but this is too late to take some time off work for it. Either way, I had the same initial thought when I heard about the appearance. I hope it ends up a nothingburger, but any time I think of horrible con moments I think of a time Yuu Asakawa (her most popular voice work probably being Medusa in Fate stuff) was at a con and during the Q&A part of the panel some idiot asked her about her early voice acting days voicing hentai. Hopefully Calli is just performing and not having some session where all it takes is one dumbass to make things extremely awkward.
The only positive is that im sure the majority of the crowd will self-police and shame, shun and kick out the attention whore in the crowd. For every tard you get a few of those "forbidden knowledge, we must protect the secret" people.

There's a bunch of us in chat.
We're Nolan-level lazy for offsite OPSEC.
I just looking forward if I ever debut for people on Twitter to link to all of my shit on this site and call me a right-wing nazi as they try to cancel me.

What site is this, that allows you to find people's last 50 YouTube chat messages? Seems like a very useful tool for Kiwis.

EDIT: Found one of the tools they're using in that thread, but it isn't the one from the screenshot. Seems to work though.
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Keep in mind that site/tool says it only shows the last 50 comments, you definitely aren't getting a complete picture of the comment history and Vtuber fans seem like ther more likely to be the people who comment frequently rather than rarely, they could have said a million nice supportive things to Pomu that you can't see because there older than 50 posts ago.

Edit: Just checked the site that @One Quick Post linked, it defiantly isn't perfect because it has my Superchat history wrong and is missing memberships streams. Also realized how rarely I use chat. Kiara's kimoni reveal was the third most recent stream i actually chatted in, not counting memberships streams.
It's not great. Shows some 50 comments but not the last ones. Pretty sure I was spamming Pippa's chat the other day and those don't really show up for me.

I mean, having a metric fuck ton of comments bitching about how it was an unforgivable BETRAYAL!!! that they had their pet fag along unannounced can be a bit tedious. It's her channel, her choice.

Doesn't matter, I'm Pomu.
I think people forget that places like this and /vt/ and even Facebook groups are a microscopic part of a vtuber's following. Maybe you have 100 people pissed off about it and commenting on it and in that moment it feels like there is a huge mob of people going after said vtuber but there are another 900 or so people that are out of the loop and don't really give a shit. As for the whole deleting comments, I have never been a fan of people doing that but its mostly based on the principle that things on the internet should stay up for everyone to see. But its their channel, so she can do whatever the fuck she wants.




Currently watching Yugo rage at "Getting Over It" because after 2 hours she dropped to the beginning and started sperging the fuck out. The other boys were in the chat talking about takoyaki and whatnot. Their interaction is pretty nice and no one seems to walk on eggshells when around Yugo. You still get the "Deez Nuts" and sexual innuendos.

Yugo keeps moving the mouse around erratically (high sensitivity) and its giving me anxiety.


Does vshojo count as a large corpo now because of 11+ million venture capital?
Vshojo is indeed large corpo mainly because of how big their audience is. Even Hime gets more average views that the top 10% of other EN Vtubers whenever she dusts off her model and decides to stream. They also do stream on Twitch so its harder to figure out a metric to determine size. I still have trouble calling them a corp because they don't really act like one as it is more of a bunch of individuals that just signed up under a name.

PhaseConnect is still small. On Youtube once a company gets at least 75% of its talents over the 100,000 subscriber threshold and they can lock-in a consistent stream of sponsors I would consider them "large". 100,000 subs being the point where one can probably make a living off youtube.
 
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Does vshojo count as a large corpo now because of 11+ million venture capital?
Debatable just because they dont act nor consider themselves as a corpo. The brand is hard carried by mouse, nyan, vei, and the wizards Gunrun has as contacts to make them big. Still there is a (deserved) stigma admiting you like Vshojo, so you dont see too much people considering them as the big corpos.
I think people forget that places like this and /vt/ and even Facebook groups are a microscopic part of a vtuber's following. Maybe you have 100 people pissed off about it and commenting on it and in that moment it feels like there is a huge mob of people going after said vtuber but there are another 900 or so people that are out of the loop and don't really give a shit.
Take in mind, most of the internet is silent, they prefer not to comment neither give a like/dislike (lurking is very common). Sure places like you mention are a minority, but that doesnt mean that there isnt at least one person outside those places that think the same, or even worse, than us, but decides to be in the silent majority.
Even Hime gets more average views that the top 10% of other EN Vtubers whenever she dusts off her model and decides to stream.
If she debuted without the vshojo brand, she would definetly have had way less viewers, specially with the content she provides. Its unfair, thats the embodiment of free clout on a big agency without a talent filter / audition, even if she is kinda succesful as Syd.
 
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An EN indie, or small corpo at this point is either going to be either discount Pippa, or Pippa adjacent, or a generic e-thot with an anime avatar, I have found no in-between.
There are others you know... If you have a fondness for older games, you might like Amiya Aranna from Tsunderia. Anyone who has a fondness for Mega Man Legends and is playing Castlevania games gets an extra point in my book. Also, I like her singing voice.
She streams in the afternoon usually, which might be nice for some people.
 

Selen and Vox fucking confirmed. Who will be angrier, the dragoon simps or the fujoshi army?
DRAGOONS, I DONT FEEL SO GOOD...

You know what would add to that aesthetic? Add in some more detail there like adding some trash and roaches beside her. Couple that with that dude's hyper-realistic pic of Pippa. The dirty white bedsheet's just meh.
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you think Pippa watches Kino casino? seems like something she would enjoy.
 
So I hit the Homepage for Holodex; which I keep on the Vtuberdex setting. If you use that site, you know that doing so will just flood your screen with something akin to seeing the multiverse. However, as I was peeling my eyes toward the menu to hit favorites before going insane; one indie caught my eye. Edited for ease on the eyes.

I don't think she has been mentioned here at all (not that I saw from typing in the parts of her name in search anyway). So here is Kawasaki Sui:
Her About page is in English and Japanese:
IRL receptionist for a big company, Sui Kawasaki!
Motorbike and car enthusiast, currently focused on Gran Turismo.
I try streaming a variety of content such as: Game playthrough and commentary, chatting, singing, ASMR, reading, etc ♪
I am not the usual "Kawaii" cute girl but I hope my Onee-san healing aura is to your liking (*'▽')
I hope we can become good friends ♪


What originally caught my eye was this video, a 24/7 Pre-Recorded Japanese story reading stream:

She did a collab with Figaro recently, who was mentioned here earlier. And if none of that convinces you to check her out like I am going to; the fact that one of her rules is to use only Japanese or English in chat, cucking the the huehuespammers is just icing on the cake.
Kawasaki Sui is a babiniku with a voice changer who hides the fact and pretends he is a female Vtuber.

Found this out after a talk collab with my oshi Kayamori Emma (formerly Yaezawa Natori of .LIVE/Idolbu) which got privated now. I missed the original stream and when I tried to look at the VOD in Sui's channel it was privated. Someone in the /jp/ Virtual Youtuber thread mentioned the fact with two audio links but they were already deleted. I did some searching and some japanese websites (Idolbu Anti thread, indie anti, and some Re:ACT threads in 5ch which are unfortunately in Japanese) and they came to the same conclusion as well and they are unhappy because he used the collaboration to ask Emma sexually charged questions (whether she has a sex friend, whether she has done one night stands, etc).

They eventually confirmed it during a Phasmophobia collab where one of the participants is .LIVE's Rurun Rururica and the voice changer glitched. The Phasmophobia VOD was privated after this but someone saved a screencap where this happened.
(I don't know if archive.ph can preserve Twitter videos, if it can't would someone please help guide me on how?)

There was a collaboration scheduled with Rururica but this was cancelled due to "technical issues" but was not rescheduled. This is only speculation but it is most likely .LIVE stepping in and put a stop to it due to the voice changer glitch (which is probably one advantage in being corpo so they can handle this kind of situation).

I don't watch the collaboration with Figaro as I was watching another stream but I hope what Emma experienced did not happen to Figaro (who is also a good singer). Figaro also rarely does collaboration so I don't want a bad experience turn her off to further possibilties.

Anyway for a less negative post, if you want to see how the (former) Idolbu member looks like, I present this site. Looks like .LIVE strengthened their opsec since I couldn't find info for their 2021 debutants Rikumu (nice deep voice), Rurun Rururica, and Nanahoshi Milily. Understandable since the Yozakura Tama incident led to death threats.
 
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