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He has the fastest sub growth right now, even faster than Gura's.
Kinda puts the nail in the coffin that "Male Vtubers will never be popular"
Yeah I was in the mindset of male WESTERN vtubers would never be popular given most of our indie choices were/are dogshit or they're already popular streamers/youtubers that wouldn't even transition into the Vtuber world. So I'm glad Lux popped off and changed the environment.
 
Current Gura's growth? Yeah.
For Gura's time? No. Gura reached 1m subs within 40 days. Her fanbase is already settled, so it's only natural that it slows down. Once Vox's popularity peaks, we'll expect to see a similar slowdown as well.
Run from it, dread from it, it all comes the same. Male Vtubers are the FUTURE. Gura has nothing on Vox
Yeah I was in the mindset of male WESTERN vtubers would never be popular given most of our indie choices were/are dogshit or they're already popular streamers/youtubers that wouldn't even transition into the Vtuber world. So I'm glad Lux popped off and changed the environment.
Kinda sucks that Fulgur stumbled over their growth for a while because of the whole discord leak but luckily Vox proves you don't need Holo unicorns to be a success.
 
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Apparently Warabeda Meiji just announced she will be graduating in April. She just had a Member's stream earlier, where she presumably announced it
 
Kinda sucks that Fulgur stumbled over their growth for a while because of the whole discord leak but luckily Vox proves you don't need Holo unicorns to be a success.
We won't know this for sure until the stats update in a couple of days (if you're speaking of growth literally), but in terms of sub growth it seems that March is set to be everyone's best month to date, which means the leak on Mar. 4 has had no detrimental effect on them.

If you're talking in a sense of optics, then that's fair, but it's not like it's had a tangible effect on NijiEN. A prospective one, sure, as the chance of collabs with HoloEN may be lower now — either through administration or fans babyraging — but both branches have existed separately since their inception and would simply continue to do so.
 
We won't know this for sure until the stats update in a couple of days (if you're speaking of growth literally), but in terms of sub growth it seems that March is set to be everyone's best month to date, which means the leak on Mar. 4 has had no detrimental effect on them.

If you're talking in a sense of optics, then that's fair, but it's not like it's had a tangible effect on NijiEN. A prospective one, sure, as the chance of collabs with HoloEN may be lower now — either through administration or fans babyraging — but both branches have existed separately since their inception and would simply continue to do so.
Multiple NijiENs were streaming like the day of the leak and there was no noticeable impact on their numbers. As it turns out, cancelling people often doesn't work.
 
Run from it, dread from it, it all comes the same. Male Vtubers are the FUTURE. Gura has nothing on Vox
You're kidding me, right? I mean, I know Gura's fans are cringe, and that Vox is impressive but this is the most cope and braindead thing I've ever heard all month.

Funny you mentioned this
China (the Mainland) is going to restrict Live Streaming even more, especially tipping/SC
Oof. China is always finding ways to make sure their money don't spill out overseas so this is nothing special, especially with last year's restrictions. RIP Chinese whales and content creators who benefit from Chinese whales.

If you're talking in a sense of optics, then that's fair, but it's not like it's had a tangible effect on NijiEN. A prospective one, sure, as the chance of collabs with HoloEN may be lower now — either through administration or fans babyraging — but both branches have existed separately since their inception and would simply continue to do so.
I definitely feel that the effects are more on the fanbases rather than the talents themselves. I just want my Kiara and Pomu collab.

Multiple NijiENs were streaming like the day of the leak and there was no noticeable impact on their numbers. As it turns out, cancelling people often doesn't work
I think the fact that NijiEN and HoloEN have different fanbases definitely helped, as the incident can just be brushed off and the fanbases of each agency can just ignore each other. If they shared the same pool of core viewers, the result of that leak would have been much more catastrophic. Glad it didn't elevate to that level though.
 
On the topic of harrasing vtuber roomates: What are your bets that at least one of the audience will show with a Calli cosplay or reference at DDK appearance on that Hawaii convention? Like, come on, it will be the closest you can possibly be IRL to Calli, but im afraid that will end on some yab like Kiara is experiencing.
Better ask how long until she lashes out at them or have a public meltdown because people keep pestering her about hololive-related stuff *wink**wink* *nudge**nudge* rather than DD raps.
If y'all are thinking about shit going down then expect it to happen on a Q&A portion (if she has one).
Pretty sure she does, I wouldn't exactly expect Karen to get assaulted by soyboys that post selfies with her merch on reddit but it would be hard to talk about anything without dancing around her streaming job, especially if that newest vent album is not off-limits from discussion for obvious reasons. Not so much because of the contracts but audience concernfaging about Calli getting into trouble if she says too much etc. it's bound to lead into many awkward moments during the panel.
Also holy fuck this picture, why does she have to be such a cringy tryhard?
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Vox's growth rate is actually consistent and impressive. Literally 200k within 1 month. Probably gonna reach 1m subs within the next 3 months
They have to run out of fujos at some point and his heavy-pandering is a strong filter to pretty much anyone outside of this demographic I think.

I blame the fans with this one, unfortunately.
You blame fans for not liking the product? With attitude like that you should work at Marvel comics or on one of those new Star Trek shows.
 
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Not-Moona's about to go live.

EDIT: Eating stream. ok. She says she's still sick.

EDIT 2: "Am I gay or straight? What do you think?" - she's teasing chat.

EDIT 3: Talking about her ex-BF, if anyone cares.
Did anyone archive this? notmoona always streams whenever I'm out. Also pretty sure her ex is the guy who mixed her Baby Doll Cover. He seems like the average ID schizo, used to always post weird shit under Moona tweets circa 2020 IIRC
 
You're kidding me, right? I mean, I know Gura's fans are cringe, and that Vox is impressive but this is the most cope and braindead thing I've ever heard all month.
The only cope I see here is from you.
Face the facts, Vox is more popular than Gura ever has and ever will.
Vox changed the Vtuber landscape and showed what it takes for Male Vtubers to succeed. Gura just rode on the success that HoloJP gave her.
 
Some of you are expecting a wierd sperg fest or free for all when Karen has her concert or event but ngl lots of cons have always been ok with their security and im betting decent money any Q&A or meet and greet will be decently screened to avoid or downplay any HL shit

Its also an A-con, even if someone went wearing a Calli hoodie or some shit it wouldnt be out of place

I get it that shes the wigger drunkie reaper but dont set the bar for yabs that high yet, its her first public appearance in the US post Calli lmao
 
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You blame fans for not liking the product? With attitude like that you should work at Marvel comics or on one of those new Star Trek shows.
I'm blaming the fans for not even giving the product a chance. There's a difference lmao. It's obvious that Hololive fans generally only like it when what they see are waifus. If it's anything but, they're not interested
Face the facts, Vox is more popular than Gura ever has and ever will.
Gura: Reaches 1 million subs, blitzes past literally everyone in the VTuber world. Has become an internet icon and is globally recognized as she is the face of Western VTubing currently.
You're actually joking here. Am I being baited? If so, then you did a good job.
Vox changed the Vtuber landscape and showed what it takes for Male Vtubers to succeed. Gura just rode on the success that HoloJP gave her.
Vox's "change" to the VTuber landscape is to pander to fujos, which is actually dangerous to male VTubing as a whole because it signals to a lot of people that the only way to be financially successful as a male VTuber is to fujobait. Vox alone didn't change the landscape, its the success of Luxiem as a whole. That's like crediting the explosion of VTubers because of Gura rather than the entirety of HoloMyth's success, which is a pretty fucking stupid thing to say. While Luxiem did set a precedent for male VTubers and that accomplishment is impressive, your complete lack of understanding in the overall VTubing environment and overestimation over their achievement makes me think you're either a dumb lost Nijinigger from /vt/, or you're baiting me.
I get it that shes the wigger drunkie reaper but dont set the bar for yabs that high yet, its her first public appearance in the US post Calli lmao
Ngl, all this doomposting about DDK potentially getting fucked on the hawaii trip has gotten me worried for her lmao
 
Gura: Reaches 1 million subs, blitzes past literally everyone in the VTuber world. Has become an internet icon and is globally recognized as she is the face of Western VTubing currently.
You're actually joking here. Am I being baited? If so, then you did a good job.
>b-but Gura has more subs
Sure, Subs that don't even watch her.
What's good with 3.89 mil subs that don't even watch her streams or SC?
Also, Vox is beating Gura's growth lately, so I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to blitz past her "subs" that have obviously been botted
Vox's "change" to the VTuber landscape is to pander to fujos, which is actually dangerous to male VTubing as a whole because it signals to a lot of people that the only way to be financially successful as a male VTuber is to fujobait. While Luxiem did set a precedent for male VTubers and that accomplishment is impressive, your complete lack of understanding in the overall VTubing environment and overestimation over their achievement makes me think you're either a dumb lost Nijinigger from /vt/, or you're baiting me.
If it works, it works. You're just mad that Holos haven't caught on and are getting left in the dust by NijiEN
 
Ngl, all this doomposting about DDK potentially getting fucked on the hawaii trip has gotten me worried for her lmao
NGL it all sounds kinda reachy and i personally doubt that she is gonna have anything yab worthy happen unless she downs a case of jack before getting on panel or on stage, which is possible kek but still, wait for the con before dooming atleast lmao
 
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