Home Buying / Housing Market Griefing Thread - You're going to rent until you die.

NoReturn said:
For those uncomfortable with becoming a bicycle and/or rape victim. What would be the female equivalent of merchant marine?
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Woman sail in the merchant marine. (Yes, they still call it "sailing" for some reason despite not having any sails). On US-flagged ships, women are pretty safe (I wouldn't fuck around and find out on a foreign-flagged ship filled with Indian officers). Just know that if you go into a guy's room, for any reason whatsover, everyone on the ship will automatically assume you are sleeping with him.

If you are a nurse, you could sail on a hospital ship where you will get to live in barracks-style berthing with 500 other nurses. The guys who are part of the permanent crew (who each have a cabin to themselves) tend to stay on board those ships for very long periods of time, for some reason...
 
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(I haven't read the thread, or maybe i did a sometime ago and i forgot i did. maybe i even posted this exact comment )
trailer trash, vanlife, and the cuck shed (tiny house)

Living in a van has it upsides when it comes to transporting yourself to a better state for reasons regarding climate,work. You can also sometimes park your van down near some cool spots that could lift your mood during hard times.

Obviously living in a van is shit compared to a sweet home but probably a lot better than sleeping under a bridge. I think its the lesser evil for a lot of people, you can probably do a lot of undeclared manual labor jobs, shower at gyms.

There are also plenty of negatives like being paranoid about police or losing your van due an accident/robbing, still its better than just going full hobo.
Most homeless dont get healthy REM sleep because they need to be somewhat aware of people trying to rob,rape, and kill them. In a van you at least have a basic sound warning system of a person trying to get in. If you have enough funds you could probably make it really safe with electronics and hidden cameras,alarms.

You just need time, funds, craftiness, motivation to convert a van into a good survival machine.. the people who can do this usually already have homes.
 
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You just need time, funds, craftiness, motivation to convert a van into a good survival machine.. the people who can do this usually already have homes.
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Or family homes to go back to.
That's come up a few times, actually. Things like building a home or taking risks seem much more feasible when you have a "family home" as a backup plan.
 
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NoReturn said:
I do not trust you.
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No no no no its really good. It's a really, really good idea. Zero drawbacks. Stay the course. Cross the rubicon. It's sooo easy to live in an apartment, you know? I mean maybe consider a small condo when you're older but continue to not buy houses, everything is fine, this is the right decision, you are all correct to do this, stop trying to look over there, there's nothing over there. Rent stuff! Its easier!
 
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Who wants to have to mow a stupid lawn on a beautiful Saturday morning, or fix a broken toilet instead of shitting into a bucket for two weeks until maintenance comes around, or invest any amount of stake into their personal environment? It's much better to trade the boring and tired idea of owning home with a fixed payment for the excitement of never knowing what next year's rent payments will be for your 2-bedroom apartment. Hey, it's a walkable neighborhood with artisanal cupcake shops! You just have to climb over a small handful of hobos to get there! Have a garage to fix your cars in? Fuck that! Lease a Corolla for $680 a month. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
 
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No no no no its really good. It's a really, really good idea. Zero drawbacks. Stay the course. Cross the rubicon. It's sooo easy to live in an apartment, you know? I mean maybe consider a small condo when you're older but continue to not buy houses, everything is fine, this is the right decision, you are all correct to do this, stop trying to look over there, there's nothing over there. Rent stuff! Its easier!
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the fuck
 
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rent is almost always more expensive than property.

I live with my mom in a poor area of the US. its a one story, 3 bed, 2 bath house on 3 acres of land and the monhly mortgage is 600. this doesnt count property taxes of course but you get the idea.

find a cheap place you don't hate, suck it the fuck up and make do(like the country girls)
 
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Faggitory said:
What if you buy an RV instead of a home? That way, you can live on the road hermet style.
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I figured road hermits were a bell curve. They're either completely broke or independently wealthy. I don't think it's feasible for anyone who has to work a steady job, even if it's remote.
Quindoll said:
The people in the walkable neighborhoods, that have most of their daily needs within walking distance and who might can even go/cycle to work and thus do not have to rely on a car for transport must be absolutely seething at their lot with the current gas prices.
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Tangentially related, but it always surprises me how much of a disconnect there is between Euros and Americans/Canadians when it comes to people's idea of distance. It has a big affect on the conversation. When you go to a European city it's easier to get from point A to point B than it is in America; even if the public transportation isn't the best. It's just a result of how those cities grew.
Freya said:
I live with my mom in a poor area of the US. its a one story, 3 bed, 2 bath house on 3 acres of land and the monhly mortgage is 600.
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That sounds cool. Do you grow anything or is the land poo?
Freya said:
find a cheap place you don't hate, suck it the fuck up and make do(like the country girls)
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What of income?
 
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NoReturn said:
Tangentially related, but it always surprises me how much of a disconnect there is between Euros and Americans/Canadians when it comes to people's idea of distance. It has a big affect on the conversation. When you go to a European city it's easier to get from point A to point B than it is in America; even if the public transportation isn't the best. It's just a result of how those cities grew.
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This is true. European cities mostly grew with having everything important in walking distance, because there was simply no alternative. But a concept that worked for thousands of years has a pretty solid chance to work for the next few thousand years. It is antifragile by design and I personally like it that way.

American/Canadian city design is rather young in comparison and I am certainly no expert but if you look a bit around the internet you might find out how your town (assuming you are an American/Canadian) looked like in the past. You might be surprised, because, as far as I can tell, a lot of American towns were firstly build in a similar fashion. But then a lot of stuff was torn down in order to make place for the car traffic. So when I hear something along the lines of "American towns were not build for the car, they were bulldozed for the car", I tend to agree.

There is a Youtube channel called "Not just bikes" if you are interested in it. But I don't want to derail the thread any further.
 
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Quindoll said:
This is true. European cities mostly grew with having everything important in walking distance, because there was simply no alternative. But a concept that worked for thousands of years has a pretty solid chance to work for the next few thousand years. It is antifragile by design and I personally like it that way.

American/Canadian city design is rather young in comparison and I am certainly no expert but if you look a bit around the internet you might find out how your town (assuming you are an American/Canadian) looked like in the past. You might be surprised, because, as far as I can tell, a lot of American towns were firstly build in a similar fashion. But then a lot of stuff was torn down in order to make place for the car traffic. So when I hear something along the lines of "American towns were not build for the car, they were bulldozed for the car", I tend to agree.

There is a Youtube channel called "Not just bikes" if you are interested in it. But I don't want to derail the thread any further.
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I'll drop the topic too after this, but to add a note: Libraries are great for this.
Most libraries have some kind of "local history" area/archive with cool old pictures and stuff.
 
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NoReturn said:
I figured road hermits were a bell curve. They're either completely broke or independently wealthy. I don't think it's feasible for anyone who has to work a steady job, even if it's remote.
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Oh, why not? I was planning out getting a remote job and living in an RV, so I'm interested in hearing why you don't think it will work.
 
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Faggitory said:
Oh, why not? I was planning out getting a remote job and living in an RV, so I'm interested in hearing why you don't think it will work.
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Allow me to rephrase: It would be very hard for "engaged to wait" jobs, but less so for "List of things to get done" remote jobs. Does that make sense?
 
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The two significant downsides I can think of to living in an RV instead of a house are the decreased security and your shelter having a depreciating value. Your home being on wheels swings both ways; it's great if you're not ready to settle into a community and want to live like a nomad, but also bad since a thief could quite literally drive off with your home in an instant if you're careless or you get ambushed and overwhelmed. Since RVs are vehicles by the end of the day their value decreases the more they're used, unlike a house which would increase as it's gradually improved and expanded upon. So sure you're saving money buying an RV instead of a house short-term, but you also won't be making any money passively long-term like you would if you owned a house instead.

Obviously your mileage may vary (heh) on how bad these downsides are depending your preferences and circumstances.
 
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