US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

That buck toothed sheboon from Georgia STILL hasn't conceded the 2018 election because she's adamant they'll find more votes for her eventually. She was literally promised the seat before a single vote was cast and the idea that she lost the election just won't get past the nappy greasy hair and layer of subdermal blubber.

That's kind of been my fear. If they don't do a full election night/election week 2020 special, they can just go full Stacey Abrams nationwide and never concede anything. That was the plan for if it looks like Donald Trump had won, they had "war gamed" on how to contest and bitch in court about EVERYTHING until people just eventually said, okay, okay, fine, you whined enough, Joe Biden is president now. Under no circumstances was Donald Trump going to be allowed to win. If for whatever reason all of their "democracy fortification" didn't work they had prepared to go to the mattresses everywhere for a year until the Biden presidency happened and the senate went democrat.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

That's kind of been my fear. If they don't do a full election night/election week 2020 special, they can just go full Stacey Abrams nationwide and never concede anything. That was the plan for if it looks like Donald Trump had won, they had "war gamed" on how to contest and bitch in court about EVERYTHING until people just eventually said, okay, okay, fine, you whined enough, Joe Biden is president now. Under no circumstances was Donald Trump going to be allowed to win. If for whatever reason all of their "democracy fortification" didn't work they had prepared to go to the mattresses everywhere for a year until the Biden presidency happened and the senate went democrat.

Except if they really wanted to keep Trump out of office that bad, they would've done that in 2016, not 2020. I keep telling y'all, TPTB are not infallible. By thinking that they are, you're falling into their trap. They CAN be defeated. And if you still walk away with a bleak outlook, take solace in this: If all else fails, no matter how much money they have, no matter how much power they wield, the Grim Reaper awaits them all, just like it awaits you and me.

 

[The Ugly One]

In 2016, they didn't think they could lose. They weren't prepared. In 2020, they knew they could lose, and pulled out all the stops to fake the win.

 

[Blake Chortles]

Why is it not a criminal act to knowingly violate election law? Why do we have to sue? Pretty sure i’d be arrested if I submitted two ballots and told a cop.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

In 2016, they didn't think they could lose. They weren't prepared. In 2020, they knew they could lose, and pulled out all the stops to fake the win.

They thought the usual amount of rigging would not only suffice, but Hillary Clinton would win a 40+ state blowout, talking about flipping Texas in 2016 and all this pie in the sky shit. They fell asleep at the wheel. They then totally went balls out to get the house, senate and presidency.

 

[The Ugly One]

Why is it not a criminal act to knowingly violate election law? Why do we have to sue? Pretty sure i’d be arrested if I submitted two ballots and told a cop.

It's criminal, but who's in charge of investigating and prosecuting crimes? Oh right, the same branch of government that organizes elections.

They thought the usual amount of rigging would not only suffice, but Hillary Clinton would win a 40+ state blowout, talking about flipping Texas in 2016 and all this pie in the sky shit. They fell asleep at the wheel. They then totally went balls out to get the house, senate and presidency.

It was so surreal watching it happen. State after state..."haha lol, well, whaddya know, we're still behind...but look, another 100,000 votes! All for Biden! What luck!" and even questioning it was a bannable offense online.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

You have 100 bar codes, all assigned to an individual voter.

You can run those 8 billion times, you'd still only have 100 votes.

Cope harder? Have fun with Mr. Pillow.

You have clearly never seen a cashier at a grocery store scan the same thing four times instead of scanning four of the same item.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

They thought the usual amount of rigging would not only suffice, but Hillary Clinton would win a 40+ state blowout, talking about flipping Texas in 2016 and all this pie in the sky shit. They fell asleep at the wheel. They then totally went balls out to get the house, senate and presidency.

And, as @Gehenna said hundreds of pages ago, the steal cost them everything. Anything they wanted to pass through legislation stopped completely. They couldn't fortify state elections and now Republicans are fighting back, such as Youngkin and DeSantis reforming education. The Green New Deal can't be done whenever Biden begs OPEC for gas, and bringing COVID back is also admitting that Biden--and Dem states in general--was weak on the one issue he was elected for.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Oh, that's not how precedent works. Precedent only applies when the court wants to rule a certain way. They'd find a reason the earlier rulings don't apply. Also, increasingly, liberal Ivy League law school grads are dispensing with the whole concept of law as structurally racist. For example, the foundational legal doctrine of right to representation has been challenged at Harvard and Yale, and most grads don't believe in it any more.

If I were to pretend for a moment that courts in the USA actually practice law, one actual issue is that various state statutes for handling ballots actually have very little in the way of penalties if the statutes are broken. I guess there's possible fines and jail time here and there if you ever catch the person who mishandled the ballots, but that's rare. Republicans could write laws specifying who has standing to sue and what happens if the courts find, for example, that chain of custody was broken in a batch of ballots.

No doubt, liberals would challenge such laws as unconstitutional and racist.

So long term we are fucked.

Also I guess that I will ask this question knowing the answer, do the conservatives have any plans to counter this or more shilling for Israel and Jesus?

 

[b0x]

It's criminal, but who's in charge of investigating and prosecuting crimes? Oh right, the same branch of government that organizes elections.



It was so surreal watching it happen. State after state..."haha lol, well, whaddya know, we're still behind...but look, another 100,000 votes! All for Biden! What luck!" and even questioning it was a bannable offense online.

It's been a year and you still can't upload a video to youtube discussing the "irregularities" of the election. It's flagged as disinformation and taken down.

 

[Titos]

You people know the ballots have bar codes, right?

They could run the ballots through machines 5 million times, it doesn't matter. It won't count as additional votes.

Elections have gone past election night for at least 50 years. It's like this is your first election or something.

No shit, that's exactly why nobody has ever had to get help removing items at the self checkout because the thing scanned two boxes of milk instead of the one they actually scanned. Never ever happens, it's impossible!

 

[Gehenna]

And, as @Gehenna said hundreds of pages ago, the steal cost them everything. Anything they wanted to pass through legislation stopped completely. They couldn't fortify state elections and now Republicans are fighting back, such as Youngkin and DeSantis reforming education. The Green New Deal can't be done whenever Biden begs OPEC for gas, and bringing COVID back is also admitting that Biden--and Dem states in general--was weak on the one issue he was elected for.

You could say they overreacted. They spent every last cent they could, saved nothing in reserve, and went all out. The problems that created won't go away foe several election cycles.

 

[Gar For Archer]

And, as @Gehenna said hundreds of pages ago, the steal cost them everything. Anything they wanted to pass through legislation stopped completely. They couldn't fortify state elections and now Republicans are fighting back, such as Youngkin and DeSantis reforming education. The Green New Deal can't be done whenever Biden begs OPEC for gas, and bringing COVID back is also admitting that Biden--and Dem states in general--was weak on the one issue he was elected for.

One could be forgiven for blackpilled doomering immediately after the election, but if you STILL think the Cathedral is all-powerful after witnessing the events of the past year, you’re straight up just delusional.

If that were true, Youngkin would have lost in Virginia. CNN wouldn’t be on the verge of going bankrupt. All of America would have been forced to get jabbed to keep their jobs.

There’s an article that’s been posted here a few times, that makes the analogy that 2020 was the Establishment’s Pearl Harbor - a shock-and-awe all-out attack that completely demoralizes your enemy into just giving up and accepting your victory. Except like the US during World War II, the people didn’t just roll over and give up and accept perpetual Democrat rule - they stayed angry.

 

[CrippleThreat]

that were true, Youngkin would have lost in Virginia.

It's still a solid benchmark. Niggas actually thought McAuliffe was gonna junta and take the governorship, like media bait for Qoomers and Bloomers.

 

[The Ugly One]

So long term we are fucked.

The bad guys have taken over every institution. They purged conservatives a long time ago, and now they're setting about purging any liberals who think the rule of law, democracy, and civil liberties are worthy ends in and of themselves, regardless of whether or not they're momentarily benefiting someone they don't like. Nothing is truly lost, but at this point, any kind of return to sanity requires a long march back through the institutions.

Also I guess that I will ask this question knowing the answer, do the conservatives have any plans to counter this or more shilling for Israel and Jesus?

"Heh. Wait until those crazy kids grow up and face the REAL world!"
"Nobody tells MY little girl she can't be 45 and alone because she put her career first!"
"Yes, yes, but you just can't get by without a university education!"
"I'm only against trannies in women's sports!"
"We can't tell private companies what to do!"
"Feminism was good until 2003."

By and large, conservatives still don't get it, not really. But there are more than zero who get it now, and there were zero in 2008.

 

[chiobu]

Saw this offsite about Joe

On another thread about Joe Biden's latest comments in support of "trans rights," several posters have said they think Biden is clueless about transgenderism, that he's just doing what his aides advise him and what the Democratic Party say. I don't believe this is the case. Biden might be doing as instructed because he's POTUS, a pretty demanding job, and he appears to be cognitively impaired. But Biden has been a big TRA for quite a while, going back long before he started showing diminished mental capacity.

He's been saying "trans rights are the civil rights issue of our time" since at least the fall of 2015:

Mr. Biden called transgender rights “the civil rights issue of our time”

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/...-focuses-on-transgender-rights-in-speech.html

The Human Scrotum Rights Campaign says on its website that Biden has been saying "trans rights are the civil rights issue of our time" since 2012:

Throughout his career, Biden has been ahead of the curve on expanding protections and rights for transgender Americans. In 2012, he called transgender rights the “civil rights issue of our time” articulating a truth that many -- even in his own party at the time -- left unaddressed. He reiterated that statement when launching his LGBTQ platform earlier this year. He worked with President Obama to install transgender Americans throughout the administration including to positions within the White House.

Throughout his campaign, Biden has elevated the need to address the epidemic of violence facing the transgender community -- especially transgender women of color -- and articulated a strong plan to empower transgender Americans in the workforce to help combat conditions that lead to that disporportionate violence.

https://www.hrc.org/news/hrc-endorses-vice-president-joe-biden-for-president

In March 2014, Biden and his wife were the keynote speakers at the HRC's annual gala dinner.

For those who don't know, the HRC was founded by some dodgy gay men with a money inherited by one of them from a gay big wig in the pornography industry. One of its co-founders was charged with sex crimes against boys. From the Hill in 2014:

Doubtful you've heard about Human Rights Campaign co-founder and board member Terry Bean and his indictment on charges of sodomy and sexual abuse related to what authorities said was an encounter with a 15-year-old male.

And why not? It's part of a continuing media double standard when it comes to covering Republicans and Democrats.

Bean, 66, is a prominent supporter of the president, having raised more than a half a million dollars for the president's reelection campaign. He appeared in front of a Eugene, Ore., judge yesterday and pleaded not guilty to all charges. Both he and his ex-boyfriend, 25-year-old Kiah Lawson, were arrested last month and charged with two counts of third-degree sodomy and one count of third-degree sexual abuse. Lawson also pleaded not guilty to all counts.

The Oregonian reported the charges relate to an alleged encounter the two had with a 15-year-old boy. Bean's attorney says Bean is the "victim of an extortion ring."

Let me get this right. The co-founder of a group that protects gay, lesbian and transgender rights and a big-time Obama supporter allegedly violates a juvenile's rights, and there's no national coverage?

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...-human-rights-campaign-co-founders-indictment

The criminal charges against Bean were quietly dropped in January 2022, though it's not clear what happened with civil lawsuits filed against Bean allegedly accusing him of sexually abusing other boys.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...pped/283-899e482c-fb04-432f-bac2-de5163fa2646

Back to Joe Biden: Biden wrote the introduction to MtF Sarah McBride's memoir, which was published in 2018. McBride, the MtF who spoke at the 2016 Democratic National Convention, is a close family friend of the Bidens - Biden says McBride is an "honorary Biden."

McBride is the TRA (Trans Rights Activist) policy advisor and aspiring politician who was working for the HRC and politicking in a public area of the US Capitol building in early 2019 when Kellie-Jay Keen (Posie Parker) of the UK just happened upon him and on the spur of the moment asked him some forthright questions. The interchange was portrayed by TRAs as an incident where an evil "TERF" attacked a poor delicate defenseless MtF in the MtF's workplace (making it seem as though a public area of the US Capitol building was McBride's office).

McBride also played a key role in getting Delaware Medicaid to pay for the "puberty blockers" and genital surgery for the autistic and very mentally ill boy Trinity Neal, aka the black Jazz Jennings. Neal had his genital surgery at 16 - making him one of the youngest boys in the US and world to have such surgery, and perhaps the youngest to have it paid for by US taxpayers. (BTW, Trinity is one of four sons of a "gender queer" mother who now works as a paid TRA for the HRC; last time the family was covered in the press, two of her sons were trans, one was "gender creative" and fluid and considering going trans at circa age 5, and the eldest at 17 was dealing with a serious health issue that was causing him to go blind.)

The Biden Foundation, now shuttered whilst Biden is POTUS, was very big in promoting gender ideology and particularly the social and medical transing of kids. There used to be many videos on the BF website profiling various trans kids, adolescents and young adults, and heaping praise on parents who let their kids "live as their authentic selves" by telling them they were "born in the wrong body."

 

[AnotherPleb]

So long term we are fucked.

Also I guess that I will ask this question knowing the answer, do the conservatives have any plans to counter this or more shilling for Israel and Jesus?

That issue is what the MAGA wing of the GOP is trying to address, but they have a lot of Rinos to uproot first. You do not build a house on a bad foundation.

 

[Gehenna]

That issue is what the MAGA wing of the GOP is trying to address, but they have a lot of Rinos to uproot first. You do not build a house on a bad foundation.

And thankfully, they aren't trying to anymore. And you can blame, yet again, 2020 for that. It proved without a doubt that the RINOs are the enemy of the people, and made even the most willing to compromise Republicans take note.

"Why aren't they doing anything!?" Was shouted in many households which formerly never even considered RINOs to be a thing.

 

[FunPosting101]

Personally, I'm optimistic about 2024; but I'm reserving any and all predictions about how that election will turn out until after the 2022 mid-terms. If the GOP doesn't do at least as well as they did in 2010 there; we may well have a serious problem on our hands.

 

[FunPosting101]

That's kind of been my fear. If they don't do a full election night/election week 2020 special, they can just go full Stacey Abrams nationwide and never concede anything. That was the plan for if it looks like Donald Trump had won, they had "war gamed" on how to contest and bitch in court about EVERYTHING until people just eventually said, okay, okay, fine, you whined enough, Joe Biden is president now. Under no circumstances was Donald Trump going to be allowed to win. If for whatever reason all of their "democracy fortification" didn't work they had prepared to go to the mattresses everywhere for a year until the Biden presidency happened and the senate went democrat.

This might be my optimism kicking in, but I honestly don't think this backup plan would have worked. I can't see the GOP going along with it, or the courts. It would be more likely(in my opinion) that they would use a Trump unarguable and unfuckable victory in 2020 as an excuse to bitch about a stolen election(like they did with Bush v Gore in 2000 and like Stacey Abrams did with the Georgia more recently)in an attempt to get more "election fortification" accomplished.