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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and other gas countries are still fair game.
The official cope line is:
1. They can't cover Russia's share.
2. SA is upset with the US.
3. REEEEE

Bosnian Serb, but close enough.
Don't wish to offend the memory of the fallen in the Yugoslav Wars and I don't want to claim that I have any substantive knowledge but you being a Serb, I guess you'll be more sympathetic to Russians than to people Russia oppressed for centuries, as you may see a lot of similarities between Russian and Serb grievances, as real or unreal as they may be.
 
So... I have n-word pass? Good.

not you Ivan, rusians are not Slavs, you can't even understand Slav, never mind speak it

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anyways, master race in action with a row of OMON behind them so they don't run away. Compare the scrawny "soldiers" to OMON standing tall behind them.


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Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and other gas countries are still fair game.

Quatar, Iran, Azerbaijan and wait for it .... Israel with help of Turkey ... yeah


Joos gassing Germany ... 2022 is the biggest meme year ever (... so far)
 
The Brits is also saying they won't pay the gas in rubles. Let's see how it turns out tomorrow, whether or not Putin will cut off the gas, and how the effects are if it does happen
 
The Brits is also saying they won't pay the gas in rubles. Let's see how it turns out tomorrow, whether or not Putin will cut off the gas, and how the effects are if it does happen
It's funny because it's a repeat of what Russia did to Ukraine twice in a row in the mid-2000s. I wonder if they'll complain that Europe is stealing gas.
 
Don't wish to offend the memory of the fallen in the Yugoslav Wars and I don't want to claim that I have any substantive knowledge but you being a Serb, I guess you'll be more sympathetic to Russians than to people Russia oppressed for centuries, as you may see a lot of similarities between Russian and Serb grievances, as real or unreal as they may be.
I can only speak on my behalf. But from what I've seen, people are staunchly on Russia's side due to Russia's current support during the Kosovo issue and the fact that Russia is one of the few major powers standing up on our behalf mostly in the UN. Back in the 90s, the Russians, but also the Ukrainians (along with the Greeks), sent us volunteers and humanitarian aid and after the Kosovo War, the Russian but also Ukrainian KFOR troops too were some of the reasons Serbs didn't go fully extinct yet over there. During the war in Croatia the Russians also sold weapons to the Croats, but we don't talk about that. Most Serbs don't have any real antipathy towards the Ukrainian people, but rather the Ukrainian state which is seen as an American puppet regime (towards whom the seething is reserved to).

The Serb government is in a very uncomfortable position. On one hand it relies on Russia in regards to Kosovo (and eventually the Republika Sprska), on the other hand it would undermine its own position and arguments. Which is why ultimately Serbia decided to recognise Ukraine's pre-2014 borders, but not introduce sanctions.

Personally as much as I love to dab on the Azov Battalion and Redditors, I have sympathies towards both the Russians and the Ukrainians and see this war as essentially two friends trying to kill each other.
 
as essentially two friends trying to kill each other.
Sadly, as history shows, we were never friends. More like a former husband and wife. Husband is still a bit pissed, all the years later after the divorce.
Most Serbs don't have any real antipathy towards the Ukrainian people, but rather the Ukrainian state which is seen as an American puppet regime
You sure don't look like you make a distinction, with all those pro-Putin rallies. I'm speaking in generalities, I don't speak about you specifically.

Serbs didn't go fully extinct yet
It's not like Serbs or the Serbian government didn't commit a few crimes of their own. You make it sound like the antipathy that Serbs have in the Balkans is entirely unwarranted. Serbians had no qualms being the ruling ethnic group during the Yugoslav times. Much like Russians with their Triune Russian Nation concept, you were striving to emulate something similar. That's not to mention all those time preceding the Yugoslavia.
 
Well, at least my history and culture are real, unlike yours, polack half-breed.

which history? 300 year old word "Russia" introduced by Peter I who imported everything wholesale from the West?

or the kingdom of Muscovia which sucked mongoloid cock for hundreds of years and your zaLupin himself recognized as "continuation of the golden horde"

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Give the Imperial Guard some credit, at least they tell their men ahead of time when they're going off to war. Russian troops don't even have that going for them:

I like how no matter what dismal 40K comparison we make, the 40K armies turn out better than the Russians do.
 
which history? 300 year old word "Russia" introduced by Peter I who imported everything wholesale from the West?

or the kingdom of Muscovia which sucked mongoloid cock for hundreds of years and your zaLupin himself recognized as "continuation of the golden horde"

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Oh, muh Rus', we wuz rusiches n shieeeeet. Your half-breed ass has as much to do with it as modern italians has to do with Roman Empire. Well, at least Roman Empire was a real historical formation, unlike Ukraine.

Give the Imperial Guard some credit, at least they tell their men ahead of time when they're going off to war. Russian troops don't even have that going for them:

>face blurred, despite them having no problems with it before
>uniform without any distinctions
>Radio Svoboda

Now you know how shit tastes.
 
which history? 300 year old word "Russia" introduced by Peter I who imported everything wholesale from the West?

or the kingdom of Muscovia which sucked mongoloid cock for hundreds of years and your zaLupin himself recognized as "continuation of the golden horde"

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That's the thing about Moscow. Its only claim to fame was that they were the Mongols' top vassals, and their government was more oriental than Western. At a time when western cities were growing and prospering, and western peasants were gaining more rights and pay thanks to the Black Death cutting their numbers and incentivizing lords to compete for the services of peasants, Russia enforced serfdom even more, creating a centralized state that, unlike other centralized states in Europe like France and Spain, incentivized lords to squeeze the peasants even more.

Peter the Great had to drag the country kicking and screaming out of the Dark Ages by westernizing it. And Peter wanted Russia to be more like the other Northern European states, to the point where he erased the title of Russian Orthodox Patriarch after the Patriarch in his time died, and replaced him with a "Holy Governing Synod" which was copied wholesale from the state-controlled Lutheran Churches of nearby Sweden and Prussia. And is it any wonder that he replaced Moscow with Saint Petersburg as a capital? Russia was such as backward mess that rulers with brains tried to westernize and modernize it.

I like how no matter what dismal 40K comparison we make, the 40K armies turn out better than the Russians do.
That's because fiction has to make sense to a certain extent, whereas real-life idiots make decisions all the time that spit in the face of logic. So yes, even an empire that is made to be a cartoonishly-exaggerated form of inefficient fascism is more efficient and effective in administration and military deployment than a modern state that thinks of itself as a real rival to the USA. At least when the Cadians dropped into Graia, they knew they were there to fight Orks, and not just to go for a "military review".

Oh, muh Rus', we wuz rusiches n shieeeeet. Your half-breed ass has as much to do with it as modern italians has to do with Roman Empire. Well, at least Roman Empire was a real historical formation, unlike Ukraine.
Kiev had been its own civilization for over 1000 years. Modern Ukraine has more of a right to rule over all Russians than Moscow ever did. All Moscow did was suck up to the Mongols, betray them when they were weak, crushed all the other Rus states, and then monopolized booze-making so they can be the only ones selling vodka.

>face blurred, despite them having no problems with it before
>uniform without any distinctions
>Radio Svoboda

Now you know how shit tastes.
LOL cope all you want. It doesn't erase the fact that Putin tricked his men.


 
You wanna go there, nigga?
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Considering that the Kiev's rulers were the ones that started laying the groundwork for Russian civilization? (conversion to Christianity, links with Byzantine Orthodoxy) YES. Again, all Moscow did was suck up to the Mongols, betray them when they were weak, crushed all the other Rus states, and then monopolized booze-making so they can be the only ones selling vodka.
 
You sure don't look like you make a distinction, with all those pro-Putin rallies. I'm speaking in generalities, I don't speak about you specifically.
Obviously. As I said, Russia is seen as an ally, big brother and even potential saviour among some more special people in regards to the whole situation in the Balkans. Putin having such a high approval rate over there doesn't seem that illogical under these circumstances.
It's not like Serbs or the Serbian government didn't commit a few crimes of their own. You make it sound like the antipathy that Serbs have in the Balkans is entirely unwarranted.
Whether the others' antipathy is warranted or not is for them to decide. The fact of the matter is that once the military and police evacuated Kosovo, there was no one left to protect the Serbs and other minorities from marauding Shiptar gangs. Some KFOR contingents (among them Russian, Ukrainian, Greek etc.) did save them. It's a long story I wrote a long 'tism post on that matter somewhere else.
Serbians had no qualms being the ruling ethnic group during the Yugoslav times. Much like Russians with their Triune Russian Nation concept, you were striving to emulate something similar. That's not to mention all those time preceding the Yugoslavia.
Yes and no, but more towards no. While it was certainly one of the reasons the kingdom failed, Serbs weren't really much of a ruling caste during the communist days factually speaking. Much of the "Serb" ruling cadre were people who unironically fell for the Yugoslav ethnic meme and suddenly discovered their "Serb identiy" when the war broke out or remained unironic communists until the very end like Sloba.

I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with the concept of the Triune Russian Nation to say how much it is applicable to the Serb nation-building during the 19th century.
 
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Obviously. As I said, Russia is seen as an ally, big brother and even potential saviour among some more special people in regards to the whole situation in the Balkans. Putin having such a high approval rate over there doesn't seem that illogical under these circumstances.

Whether the others' antipathy is warranted or not is for them to decide. The fact of the matter is that once the military and police evacuated Kosovo, there was no one left to protect the Serbs and other minorities from marauding Shiptar gangs. Some KFOR contingents (among them Russian, Ukrainian, Greek etc.) did save them. It's a long story I wrote a long 'tism post on that matter somewhere else.

Yes and no, but more towards no. While it was certainly one of the reasons the kingdom failed, Serbs weren't really much of a ruling caste during the communist days factually speaking. Much of the "Serb" ruling cadre were people who unironically fell for the Yugoslav ethnic meme and suddenly discovered their "Serb identiy" when the war broke out or remained unironic communists until the very end like Sloba.

I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with the concept of the Triune Russian Nation to say how much it is applicable to the Serb nation-building during the 19th century.
I appreciate your position and the fact that you didn't sperg at me like some Serbs would've for sure.
 
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