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Just a dumb case study in the clusterfuck of identity between hEDS and Trans I mentioned. Lee Leveille, pronouns "S/he, him/her, his/hers."

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a transitioner-detransitioner-retransitioner. Rose to my radar because my GF read her account of going to an "anti trans conference", where she "can't even" out loud to me.
https://archive.ph/8hQKI

The usual crap, but a my GF kept reading and laughing
What I have to remind myself though is that I couldn’t keep pushing myself beyond my limits. I needed time to digest what had just happened, chance to vent with peers about the experience, and self-care (which meant, you guessed it, a lot of potato chips. We buy them in bulk). Most importantly, I needed patience from myself and others about what I can realistically do after each experience. After all, this work is a volunteer project I do on top of everything else already going on. Throughout each week I have: a full-time job needed to keep our rent paid; caring for my numerous physical disabilities with doctors’ appointments galore and need for rest; trying to survive a pandemic as a disabled person; trying to survive white supremacy as a Jew in a country with escalating antisemitism; and trying to be a supportive spouse. That’s a lot on its own and requires its own recuperation.

My GF was wondering - what disability and I flatly stated it would be hEDS. A quick google turned up:
It’s this short, weird little thing that doesn’t quite seem to work right. The joints clatter and pop in and out. Sometimes it can walk fine. Other times there’s a bit of a waddle, resembling a penguin on ice. Its voice marked me as trans even before T, holding the pitches and annunciations culturally associated with women until I began to sing. It attracts all sorts of unwanted attention, ranging from skinheads in the woods to weirdos on the internet. This body is all I have and yet it has never truly been mine. A foreign, clunky thing beholden with fluctuations and contradictions.


Lee now seems to think her identity issues come from a progressive, unnamed disability that she didn't know she had, but won't outright name online that causes her joints to be unstable (sometimes).

hEDS, like Gender Identity Disorder is another identity for people with BPD to cycle through. When that doesn't do it, they'll throw away the self purchased zebra print smart crutches and find something else. That's the overlap IMO.


archive.ph seems to be working overtime for trans day of visibility. Probably going to get some grade A content.
 
cEDS skin does not look like that, neither does clEDS.


No one said it did.

hEDS has no required/defined skin appearance.

It does, there are several skin elements in the dx criteria mostly to do with scarring and other visible marks.

If you meet someone that looks like a pustulant corpse it's because they get no sun, get no exercise, and eat a shit diet or abuse benedryl. About 3/4ths of the people who say they have hEDS don't,

Probably true, since it's the internet

and about half of that 3/4ths are people with extremely shit physical health they don't want to take responsibility for. Their benign hypermobility (if they even have that) isn't what's causing them to feel like shit.

hEDS is the trans of physical medicine. They even made a hypermobility spectrum diagnosis because so many people were insistently self IDing with hEDS and screaming at doctors because they weren't knowledgeable, I shit you not.

HSD just means you don't meet the full hEDS dx criteria, which to be honest is pretty arbitrary. Relabeling not-very-well-understood conditions as "spectrum disorders" is pretty common these days and not caused by internet people yelling at doctors. It's literally just a disease and it's interesting how it's linked to troons via autism, like others have said. Particularly since said troons are getting unnecessary surgeries and hormones that might mess them up further.

There were people arguing in earnestness that you didn't have to be flexible to have it. It peaked just after 2018, and the statewide support group here went from 60 members back to about 10 - with a few munchie orbiters (prior to 2010 I knew no one with a wheel chair and feeding tube). I've got so, so much empathy with the "I knew this from a young age" trans crowd. Having a bunch of whackjobs turn something you need medical treatment for/has negatively impacted you from a young age into a circus fucking sucks. I don't even have hEDS, I've got a genetically confirmed type, and these people still made me feel deep shame.
I mean that's the internet for you, sorry your group got fucked up.

When it comes to troons I am more interested in how many seem to either not know they have it (especially the males) or don't grasp how much they are potentially fucking themselves up physically by dosing with female hormones, suddenly changing muscle mass due to said hormones, getting surgeries that are going to fuck up their fragile stretchy skin, etc.

(Edit: lol that girl you posted, yes I have multiple disabilities that will worsen with a poor diet so I will eat a diet of potato chips)
 
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No one said it did.



It does, there are several skin elements in the dx criteria mostly to do with scarring and other visible marks.



Probably true, since it's the internet



HSD just means you don't meet the full hEDS dx criteria, which to be honest is pretty arbitrary. Relabeling not-very-well-understood conditions as "spectrum disorders" is pretty common these days and not caused by internet people yelling at doctors. It's literally just a disease and it's interesting how it's linked to troons via autism, like others have said. Particularly since said troons are getting unnecessary surgeries and hormones that might mess them up further.


I mean that's the internet for you, sorry your group got fucked up.

When it comes to troons I am more interested in how many seem to either not know they have it (especially the males) or don't grasp how much they are potentially fucking themselves up physically by dosing with female hormones, suddenly changing muscle mass due to said hormones, getting surgeries that are going to fuck up their fragile stretchy skin, etc.

(Edit: lol that girl you posted, yes I have multiple disabilities that will worsen with a poor diet so I will eat a diet of potato chips)
This was 100% real life, not the internet. As far as why troons would have hEDS and not know it - having real, undiagnosed hEDS is going to give you issues compared to the other boys. Speech impediments, physical weakness, coordination difficulty, "feminine interests", and rejection by peers. I can see how that would culminate in identity problems. They would have been terrible at being boys. The autism overlap - being late in meeting motor development milestones contributes to NVLD. The advice with really hypotonic infants (floppy) is to do activities with them to help them develop their proprieception and spatial reasoning. Issue with peers+nvld sounds a lot like.... autism.
 
This is what estrogen does to men you will just become a fat man and this is what is happening to children
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Welp this will end up being the worst women's history month since nobody can define a woman so it will now be men's history month
I can't say I'm surprised. He's only bloody sorry because he's been caught lying. Amazing how the majority of trannies claim to have been sexually abused/ having PTSD/fearful when the shit hits the fan.

Just another tranny the general public will have to put up with.
While this tranny says "I never cared about how horribly traumatic rape is for women until I started pretending to be one."

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Horny jail isn't enough for degenerates such as this. If a nun started slapping them with a massive bastard ruler, they'd moan in shameless pleasure. Even a cross isn't going to cut it. How do you shame he who has no shame?
Our friend Katie (on Twitter as @ApplecoreKatie, on Youtube as Katie) has been circling the drain these past few weeks after being outed to other trans people as a harasser and an abuser. The full list of things he's done to earn those labels is too big to fit in this margin. But last year, one of her victims posted a concise 187-tweet summary of it (archive), which is worth a read.

And for everything that's happened since then: Katie now has a thread. Come post in it!

(BTW Katie, if you're reading this and don't have an account, the thread is nothing but Pedo accusations.)
Oh wow. I had no idea that Gollum was trans. I guess you learn something new everyday after all.
 
Horny jail isn't enough for degenerates such as this. If a nun started slapping them with a massive bastard ruler, they'd moan in shameless pleasure. Even a cross isn't going to cut it. How do you shame he who has no shame?

The same way they used to do it when beatings were not enough.
Absolute tyranny. You take away their toys and you ignore them.
 
Welp this will end up being the worst women's history month since nobody can define a woman so it will now be men's history month

While this tranny says "I never cared about how horribly traumatic rape is for women until I started pretending to be one." View attachment 3129240

This is the point where you'd think self-awareness would kick in, and that the fact that they are actually men would make them realize why many women are uncomfortable with troons in their spaces.

But somehow, I bet these two still talk about evil TERFs.
 
This is the point where you'd think self-awareness would kick in, and that the fact that they are actually men would make them realize why many women are uncomfortable with troons in their spaces.
Im pretty sure most troons are self-aware that they are male and the are also aware that women are not comfortable with their cross dressing fetish
 
They already found their mention on here. Seething has commenced.
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Boy it's awful convenient that ~suddenly~ this cringe poster decided to private this video. I'm sure that pretty soon he'll say the other bigger channel it was reposted on totally did the same thing, out of the kindness of their hearts, of course because cringe channels will totally listen to a plea from a distraught tranny and remove that from the internet.

His next move should be to email Null and ask him to take these posts off here, because Null is also kind hearted and totally will not mock him and his entire family. He should use his real name and address too because we can't authenticate it's him without that, Null would never do anything nefarious with it.
 
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