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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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A summary of Ukrainian counter-offensives. Now while it inadvertently shows Mariupol as Russian when that territory is still contested. It does help give a sense of what Putin probably wants if he cannot have Ukraine as a vassal.

Euronews: Finland warns of Russian hybrid efforts over NATO negotiations.

New Voice of Ukraine says a fake Donbas referendum is in preparation.
 
In case Russia tries to do anything about this, I would just like to remind everyone that the last time Russia tried to start shit with Japan, they got their ass whooped so hard that it was one of primary factors that led up to the Russian Revolution.

But by all means, Vlad. Try to fight a war on two fronts. It worked out so well for the last guy that did it.
 
In case Russia tries to do anything about this, I would just like to remind everyone that the last time Russia tried to start shit with Japan, they got their ass whooped so hard that it was one of primary factors that led up to the Russian Revolution.

But by all means, Vlad. Try to fight a war on two fronts. It worked out so well for the last guy that did it.
To be fair, Japan was supported by the British Empire and (tacitly) the US...oh shi~
 
In case Russia tries to do anything about this, I would just like to remind everyone that the last time Russia tried to start shit with Japan, they got their ass whooped so hard that it was one of primary factors that led up to the Russian Revolution.

But by all means, Vlad. Try to fight a war on two fronts. It worked out so well for the last guy that did it.
The Self Defence Forces supposedly cannot venture outside Japan, but for them the Kuril islands aren't abroad, and the SDF have high standards of training and leadership, plus serious and modern weaponry. If nukes weren't at issue, the Japanese would walk it, if Ukraine is any guide. I suppose it's an exercise in needling poor Vova.
 
The Self Defence Forces supposedly cannot venture outside Japan, but for them the Kuril islands aren't abroad, and the SDF have high standards of training and leadership, plus serious and modern weaponry. If nukes weren't at issue, the Japanese would walk it, if Ukraine is any guide. I suppose it's an exercise in needling poor Vova.
The thing is, JSDF's action is very much depended on the court of public opinion. One mistake could led to many condemnation. If they really want to land troops there, they have to prepare for a very solid plan first

I'm much more in the camp that this is just a threat by the Japanese, but let's see how this plays out later
 
I can understand Serbs loving Russia. After all, Russia went to war with Austria and Germany over them bullying the Serbs after Archduke Ferdinand's death. That, coupled with the Western intervention against them during the Clinton years, makes them more likely to side with Russia than the West.
To expand a bit on that: It can't be understated how much of a massive impact the whole Kosovo thing on Serb opinion and witnessing the hypocrisy of Americans and the EU seething, dilating and being out of HRT over Putin doing the exact same thing under similar bullshit pretenses they did in 1999 has. World War I and all that is nice historical trivia, but the Kosovo problem is an ongoing issue that still continues to destabilise the region. Which is also why the government tries to be as pro-Russian as possible without pissing off the EU too much.

On a personal note, I see no joy in watching Russians and Ukrainians kill each other and try to be as emotionally detached as reasonably possible, but I'd be lying if I said that it didn't fill me with a certain amount of schadenfreude seeing war criminals like Madeleine Albright (Rot In Piss) and Wesley Clark as much as the bombing campaign apologists baww over the Russian invasion.

Meanwhile our head yokel chieftain of the Bosnian Serb state has gone on record being staunchly pro-Russian since Russia is regarded as one of the main benefactors of its existence, vetoed an anti-Bosnian Serb UN cirklejerk and is seen as an almost guaranteed ally in case the borders get redrawn.

Hope this clarifies a few things.
 
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"And with that, a mighty cheer went up from the heroes of Russia. They had banished the awful chernobyl exclusion zone forever, because it was haunted. Now let's all celebrate with a cool glass of turnip vodka"

 
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A summary of Ukrainian counter-offensives. Now while it inadvertently shows Mariupol as Russian when that territory is still contested. It does help give a sense of what Putin probably wants if he cannot have Ukraine as a vassal.

Euronews: Finland warns of Russian hybrid efforts over NATO negotiations.

New Voice of Ukraine says a fake Donbas referendum is in preparation.
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I'm impressed Ukraine, I'm impressed.
 
In case Russia tries to do anything about this, I would just like to remind everyone that the last time Russia tried to start shit with Japan, they got their ass whooped so hard that it was one of primary factors that led up to the Russian Revolution.

But by all means, Vlad. Try to fight a war on two fronts. It worked out so well for the last guy that did it.
The Russians did get payback when the Japanese tried to invade Mongolia in 1939,


It didn't end well. Primarily because Zhukov was there with a shit ton of tanks.

Japan got its ass handed to it so badly they refused to invade Russia when hitler did.
 
Is that the negrater of keeeeev? our very own @Vince McMahon ?
Despite my hatred of the Russian state and a certain amount of Russians, sending gore to family members of the servicemen, no matter how much I hate them is something ugly. Especially (and that is if the Belorussians/Russians aren't lying) if the guy is attempting to avoid the draft, @Sammich
 
I've posted this guys videos in the Happening thread a couple times and I've been following his analysises since he's been impartial, clinical and straight to the point without any cringe, bullshit and shilling.

TL;DW key takeaways for today:
  • A Ukrainian counteroffensive from Nikolayev Mikolayiv to retake Kherson was attempted and failed. Mostly thanks to Russian artillery and air strikes.
  • Ukrainians have been doing a decent job stalling the Russian advance for now.
  • The Russians have started to change their approach in fighting the Ukrainians. They switched from tank rushing the Ukrainians Command & Conquer style into using reconnaissance to bait the Ukrainians into artillery, aircraft, missile and MLRS fire.
  • Russian aircraft is now flying higher than usual hinting that the Russians may have degraded medium and long range air defense systems.
  • Ukrainians have most likely been getting intel on Russian air craft from American AWACs.
  • For most part the front lines have been stale in the past 48 hours.
  • In the northwest of the city of Kevin, according to Pentagon estimates, the Russians have retreated around 20% of their military assets west of the Dinepr river back into Belarus while deployed some reserve units on the north eastern side.
  • The Ukrainians used this opportunity for a counter-attack, yet the Russians still keep on keeping on around Anatov Air Field. In an earlier video VOR said that while the Russians tried to encircle the Ukrainians in the vicinity of Kevin, they put themselves at risk on getting encircled on their own. In other words: The northern front will depend on which side is better at the *teleports behind you*/"Nothin' personell, kid"-tactic.
  • VOR doesn't as of now expect the Ukrainians to make any significant gains in the north and even expects the Russians to push back.
  • Contrary to initial expectations, the Russians have increased their operations around Chernigov Chernihiv with the recon+artillery tactic.
  • Ukrainians use civilian trucks to hit the Russians with anti tank weapons from the rear, more or less switching to behind enemy lines SpedOps partisan tactics. In turn, the Russian supply lines and command and control were forced to get their shit together and began to demolish Ukrainian supply and fuel depots.
  • Russia has been deploying volunteer units (hopefully not Redditors) and conscripts and it seems that they intend to keep on keeping on.
  • It is mostly Russian artillery that keeps felting the Ukrainians.
  • Nothing new regarding Mairu/pol/'.
  • A Russian attack on Nikolayev Mikolayiv and Odessa is plausible, but still in mid to far future. Worst case scenario is that if the Russians go for bigger cities it may be a repeat of Mariu/pol/'.
Shit's been pretty wild. Personally I think this has the potential to go on for months if not years in the worst case scenario. Unless the Russians somehow get a second wind and manage to blitz or alternatively devastate Ukraine until Zelinsky throws the towel like Milošević, we may or may not be looking forward for another Syria.
 
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Ehm, hate to break it to you, but just two weeks before it all started, Zelensky was in Germany and told "we should revise those agreements" even though nobody attacked Ukraine yet.
Putin violated that agreement when he invaded Crimea and now claims Ukraine isn't a real country that should be Russian clay. All of this is a violation of the original agreement because the Ukrainians didn't want to be under Moscow's influence anymore.
 
I've posted this guys videos in the Happening thread a couple times and I've been following his analysises since he's been impartial, clinical and straight to the point without any cringe, bullshit and shilling.

TL;DW key takeaways for today:
  • A Ukrainian counteroffensive from Nikolayev Mikolayiv to retake Kherson was attempted and failed. Mostly thanks to Russian artillery and air strikes.
  • Ukrainians have been doing a decent job stalling the Russian advance for now.
  • The Russians have started to change their approach in fighting the Ukrainians. They switched from tank rushing the Ukrainians Command & Conquer style into using reconnaissance to bait the Ukrainians into artillery, aircraft, missile and MLRS fire.
  • Russian aircraft is now flying higher than usual hinting that the Russians may have degraded medium and long range air defense systems.
  • Ukrainians have most likely been getting intel on Russian air craft from American AWACs.
  • For most part the front lines have been stale in the past 48 hours.
  • In the northwest of the city of Kevin, according to Pentagon estimates, the Russians have retreated around 20% of their military assets west of the Dinepr river back into Belarus while deployed some reserve units on the north eastern side.
  • The Ukrainians used this opportunity for a counter-attack, yet the Russians still keep on keeping on around Anatov Air Field. In an earlier video VOR said that while the Russians tried to encircle the Ukrainians in the vicinity of Kevin, they put themselves at risk on getting encircled on their own. In other words: The northern front will depend on which side is better at the *teleports behind you*/"Nothin' personell, kid"-tactic.
  • VOR doesn't as of now expect the Ukrainians to make any significant gains in the north and even expects the Russians to push back.
  • Contrary to initial expectations, the Russians have increased their operations around Chernigov Chernihiv with the recon+artillery tactic.
  • Ukrainians use civilian trucks to hit the Russians with anti tank weapons from the rear, more or less switching to behind enemy lines SpedOps partisan tactics. In turn, the Russian supply lines and command and control were forced to get their shit together and began to demolish Ukrainian supply and fuel depots.
  • Russia has been deploying volunteer units (hopefully not Redditors) and conscripts and it seems that they intend to keep on keeping on.
  • It is mostly Russian artillery that keeps felting the Ukrainians.
  • Nothing new regarding Mairu/pol/'.
  • A Russian attack on Nikolayev Mikolayiv and Odessa is plausible, but still in mid to far future. Worst case scenario is that if the Russians go for bigger cities it may be a repeat of Mariu/pol/'.
Shit's been pretty wild. Personally I think this has the potential to go on for months if not years in the worst case scenario. Unless the Russians somehow get a second wind and manage to blitz or alternatively devastate Ukraine until Zelinsky throws the towel like Milošević, we may or may not be looking forward for another Syria.
This won't go for years. The Russian army is already low on morale, while its economy is dying. Meanwhile, Ukraine keeps getting goodwill donations of both money and weapons. Not to mention they're fighting on home turf. Ukraine can keep fighting for a year. Russia can't. You have an economy the size of New York going to war with a nation that has the undivided aid and attention of the West. The economics and military situation favor Ukraine; the longer this goes, the more Putin will be in trouble.
 
On a personal note, I see no joy in watching Russians and Ukrainians kill each other and try to be as emotionally detached as reasonably possible, but I'd be lying if I said that it didn't fill me with a certain amount of schadenfreude seeing war criminals like Madeleine Albright (Rot In Piss) and Wesley Clark as much as the bombing campaign apologists baww over the Russian invasion.

for what it worth, not everyone sees those retired shitheads as heroes in the burgerland. I've spoken.


I have not seen this mentioned in this thread, but Russians are pulling out of Chernobyl, literally leaving the site and surrounding area. There are a lot or articles on this.

one nuance, less mentioned, supposedly they have been digging trenches in surrounding woods ... can't see any non ukrainian sources mention it. However, it seems like some soldiers got severe case or radiation sickness, so much that they were evac straight to Belarus institute of radiology, and that sounds to me that they may be contaminated big time, hence moving them to a facility where they could be effectively isolated. I don't think RF are worried about their lives, but want to keep this downlow and under control.

Here is the thing. I watched a lot of vids of dudes going to Chernobyl exclusion zone, it's actually a passtime for a lot of people and lots of vids on it. It's not as bad as people think, some areas aren't great, but you can legit go there a lot and get hardly fucked. There are expensive tests that could be done on your exposure and some dudes that went there did them and were OK. They do bring dozimeters with them and monitor radiation as they go along, but they fucking go to places I'd never dare to, like vehicle graveyards and under the fucking reactor that blew up. Seriously, it's fucking crazy.

This all makes me wander WTF did the russians do to get exposed so badly. I wander if they were up to any shenenigans with storage of nuke waste onsite or tried to pull some weird shit like boobietrap/mine something in there. That's the real question.
 
for what it worth, not everyone sees those retired shitheads as heroes in the burgerland. I've spoken.


I have not seen this mentioned in this thread, but Russians are pulling out of Chernobyl, literally leaving the site and surrounding area. There are a lot or articles on this.

one nuance, less mentioned, supposedly they have been digging trenches in surrounding woods ... can't see any non ukrainian sources mention it. However, it seems like some soldiers got severe case or radiation sickness, so much that they were evac straight to Belarus institute of radiology, and that sounds to me that they may be contaminated big time, hence moving them to a facility where they could be effectively isolated. I don't think RF are worried about their lives, but want to keep this downlow and under control.

Here is the thing. I watched a lot of vids of dudes going to Chernobyl exclusion zone, it's actually a passtime for a lot of people and lots of vids on it. It's not as bad as people think, some areas aren't great, but you can legit go there a lot and get hardly fucked. There are expensive tests that could be done on your exposure and some dudes that went there did them and were OK. They do bring dozimeters with them and monitor radiation as they go along, but they fucking go to places I'd never dare to, like vehicle graveyards and under the fucking reactor that blew up. Seriously, it's fucking crazy.

This all makes me wander WTF did the russians do to get exposed so badly. I wander if they were up to any shenenigans with storage of nuke waste onsite or tried to pull some weird shit like boobietrap/mine something in there. That's the real question.
They forgot to bring Artifact Containers.

I think digging the trenches in the red forest is what fucked them up, I doubt they bothered to wear so much as a cloth over their faces while digging them and all they needed was to breath in some radioactive dust they disturbed, radiation there isn't that bad as you say but it get's worse if you end up with whatever is radioactive inside of your lungs.

I'm also wondering wtf was it all about with them turning the place into an ammo depot, I really wouldn't be surprised if the place exploded randomly in the future, coincidentally on the same day the winds wouldn't be taking most of the radioactive shit north or east.
 
This all makes me wander WTF did the russians do to get exposed so badly. I wander if they were up to any shenenigans with storage of nuke waste onsite or tried to pull some weird shit like boobietrap/mine something in there. That's the real question.
I think digging the trenches in the red forest is what fucked them up, I doubt they bothered to wear so much as a cloth over their faces while digging them and all they needed was to breath in some radioactive dust they disturbed, radiation there isn't that bad as you say but it get's worse if you end up with whatever is radioactive inside of your lungs.

I'm also wondering wtf was it all about with them turning the place into an ammo depot, I really wouldn't be surprised if the place exploded randomly in the future, coincidentally on the same day the winds wouldn't be taking most of the radioactive shit north or east.
This is what happens when most of your army are poorly-trained gopniks who were born in the late 90s/early 2000s, and they're led by Communist-era boomers who are nostalgic about the old Soviet Empire, and who don't give a flying shit about the new generation, using them as expendable redshirt cannon fodder. Anyone with half a brain would steer clear of the Chernobyl site and the surrounding area. But we overestimated the intelligence factor of the Russian military.
 
And now Japan is getting in.

I am going to say that this is just the start of a domino, now that Russia has shown to not be all that strong a lot of countries are going to start claiming Russian lands as their own and probably push more and more until they get as much land as they can take from Russia.

Who do you guys think will be the next country to claim Russia is occupying their lands and they want them back?
Mongolia. I'm sure the average Mongolian does not like seeing their kin being used as bullet catchers in the Russian Logistical Forces. Also Mongolia is a pretty comfy country and I'm sure a lot of Ethnic Mongolians living in Russia would rather take their chances with them.
 
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