Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Spicey McHaggis]

Yes, this is why their swarm tactics would assure their triumph in an invasion scenario, as long as their leadership isn’t decapitated.

Projecting power, however, is a different equation and they don’t have the necessary elements to do it yet. I believe they will, and much sooner than most think.

Swarm tactics don't necessarily work in an amphibious invasion. There's a pretty hard limit on the number of ships China has to actually land troops. If you hit those ships in the water loaded with troops, it really fucks with your swarm.

 

[DumbDude42]

Lol For the US to fight a war against China, they'd have to implement a draft. Imagine how that would go over with the modern US fighting age population which is mostly comprised of man-children and niggers and then compound that by ten with the unavoidable economic collapse that would occur from damn near everything instantly becoming unavailable because everything is either produced in China or has components produced in China. Hell even most US military weaponry has parts imported from China, and almost all steel for the entire world comes from either China, India, Korea, or Japan, which are all places China could easily prevent from shipping to the US.

the us would not even need to involve its army or marine corps at all in a defense of taiwan. it's a naval war, fought by warships and aircraft, a million drafted conscripts don't really help in a setting like that. so no, no draft necessary.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Half-positions are for insecure niggers. I am Pro-Russian and hate hohols and am committed as an armchair commentator on a tardwatching forum. When the war ends I will either eat the fat dick of humility as Putler commits suicide to cope with losing to a non-country run by literal clowns or gloat for all time as I book a flight through Serbia to Kiev to celebrate the execution of the Sheev Independent staff and Sergej Sumlenny. There's no middle ground.

 

[Pork Packer]

Lol, they're not the one with big problems
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The more you wail about globohomo cucked western militaries, the worse russia looks for utterly failing to come anywhere close to the basic planning, competence, and capabilities these militaries have shown over the past few decades

 

[mr.moon1488]

Lol, they're not the one with big problems
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I'm more of a victim blamer. If these Ukrainians didn't want to be invaded, why did they set up their "country" next to Russia?

Checkmate, hohols

Lol the US military can't even get people to die for ZOG anymore. Sad!

 

[Techpriest]

Have the Russians turned into ghouls or whatever gay bullshit Twitter is saying they did in Chernobyl and when is something interesting going to happen?

Well something interesting did happen in the last few days. Ukraine helicopter raid on Russian fuel deposits in Russia, and the collapse of the entire northern front as the Russians withdraw to try and salvage anything they can from the fiasco west and east of Kyiv.

 

[Simpadoo]

Swarm tactics don't necessarily work in an amphibious invasion. There's a pretty hard limit on the number of ships China has to actually land troops. If you hit those ships in the water loaded with troops, it really fucks with your swarm.

I think people misunderstand: invasion scenario is meant from China’s perspective. To clarify: China can defend itself but is not yet capable of projecting significant power. Yet.

Every war game confirms this, so far.

 

[Übertroon]

The fact the cancermob sometimes or even fairly regularly targets good people or good concepts or just good shit in general should never blind one to the reality that 50-80% of the time the cancermob will just latch on to hating whatever is the "easiest and safest" thing to hate which will almost invariably be some stupidly nasty scumfuck or sickfuck, from child molesters to mass shooters to professional negative attention whores to terrorists to jeffrey epstein

Hell to use the lattermost example, fucking le'reddit has been pushing "lol le evil child rapist jeffrey epstein didnt kill himself guiz" for over a year now and that doesnt magically make hating epstein or thinking he was silenced bad

I think a lot of right wingers might have the concern that Zelensky is Biden's man in Ukraine, and that Ukraine possibly joining NATO would just be another step towards total globohomo. American liberals and the White House certainly thinks so. But the situation is more complicated than that.
Zelensky was not a popular man before the invasion. He was elected primarily because he was the moderate in a presidential election that had Poroshenko and Tymoshenko splitting the anti-russia nationalist vote, Yuriy Boyko being the largest pro russian candidate with 11% of the electorate's suport. So the liberal Zelensky was seen by both the anti-nationalist/anti-military block and the pro-russian block as the best case for a solution to the Donbass conflict. Zelensky couldn't deliver so support rapidly declined.
Fact is without the war Zelensky would likely lose the 2024 election. to a nationalist candidate. This is likely one of the factors that worried the Russians as that would mean more pressure towards Donbass and increased military build up, so they might have figured now was the time to strike.
Ukraine could very well have turned into a nationalist trojan horse in European politics. The eastern european bloc has already achieved a lot of power within the EU now that the UK is gone and power has shifted eastwards. Having a heavily militarized society where nazism and ethno nationalism is normalized might very well have backfired on whatever plans Germany would have had for fast tracking them into the EU. It would essentially shift the balance between the western part of t he EU, and the eastern part. And I don't think the Biden administration has proved they can plan long enough into the future to consider what letting Ukraine into the western sphere might potentially do considering the current political climate of eastern europe.

 

[Techpriest]

Swarm tactics don't necessarily work in an amphibious invasion. There's a pretty hard limit on the number of ships China has to actually land troops. If you hit those ships in the water loaded with troops, it really fucks with your swarm.

Better to state swarm tactics don’t work at all really. It creates a bunch of beachheads that can’t support each other.

 

[NynchLiggers]

While I doubt the US will draft anymore due to making all those Jan 6 protestors go full draft dodger/fragger, the stupidest thing about US foreign policy is how bipolar it is. Every 4 to 8 years, the US can just forget all commitment it made last term and take policy contrary to what it was doing before. Taiwan is assuming it can rely on the US for protection, but no one really knows if the US will say a "minor incursion" will not be answered and then only get arms for Taiwan/Japan/South Korea to die for US interests.

It was already repeated here: Taiwan has vital resources that the US wouldn't let get in Chang hands under any cirumstances.

right, I forgot the key to a good military is having a manly recruiting ad like russia.

and as you can see, it's doing wond-

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I agree the vatniks have problems but this map is way too

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Lol the US military can't even get people to die for ZOG anymore. Sad!

Right, because the number of US servicemen has never dropped before.

 

[Pork Packer]

Better to state swarm tactics don’t work at all really. It creates a bunch of beachheads that can’t support each other.

Especially when burgerland and friends will be pulling the same "track everything they doing from the second they start doing it and forwarding the dox to the nation being invaded" schtick they pulling with ukraine.

A naval invasion over 100 miles of sea against a country that knows exactly where each and every ship you have is and what they have onboard and which will have the choice of every top of the line anti-ship missile being mailed in bulk to their doorsteps for months beforehand by the west just to name one factor among very, very many is the kind of shit that makes operation sealion look like the fcking anchluss in terms of difficulty

I mean, even freakin argentina was able to sink a fairfew modern western ships during the falklands war because its planes had a decent stock of fairly top of the line western missiles. Unless the PLA is planning on swimming en masse to taiwan a naval invasion has the potential to make the clusterfuck russian invasion of ukraine look like the anglo zanzibar war

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Emergency hopium injection for the vatniks, fresh Bayraktar kill.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Emergency hopium injection for the vatniks, fresh Bayraktar kill.

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The kitty and puppy drawings in the background are a nice touch.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Yes, this is why their swarm tactics would assure their triumph in an invasion scenario, as long as their leadership isn’t decapitated.

Projecting power, however, is a different equation and they don’t have the necessary elements to do it yet. I believe they will, and much sooner than most think.

I did initially think China was planning an invasion of Taiwan. After all, the US proved itself to be doddering and blundering after Afghanistan. Now, I'm thinking they'll figure out ways to cancel culture Taiwan in ways that the US finds acceptable. It'll probably take another 30 years, but it's definitely possible for them to subvert US leadership domestically via the Dem party.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

It was already repeated here: Taiwan has vital resources that the US wouldn't let get in Chang hands under any cirumstances.

I agree the vatniks have problems but this map is way too

Actually that map is outdated since it's from March 31st. After that Russia seemingly completely called it quits on the Kiev front and retreated. That "western Kiev" front seemingly doesn't exist in any real capacity anymore as most troops there went back to Belarus, same can be said for an "eastern kiev" front, although those guys are still in Ukraine.

 

[Übertroon]

Oh shit, they got the scooby doo van

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Personally, overall I thought well of Putin until he started this war. Didn't agree with everything he did but, yes, he did oversee Russia's recovery. He has been a strong leader. Have joked that Putin should come here as a "contract President", vastly better than Joey. Just believe he could have gotten much of what he wanted from Ukraine through peaceful means.

As things stand, all the "attaboys" Putin earned by improving things in Russia have been wiped out by the "oh, shit!" of his Ukraine debacle.

Honestly I was pro-Putin until the minute he actually fucking did it.

I legitimately believed "PuTiNs gOnNa iNvAdE uKrAiNe gUyZ!11" was retarded CIA/State Department/Biden Admin propaganda and fear-mongering. I legitimately believed certain factions were making up bullshit claims about Russian imperialist ambitions just for saber-rattling and internal division.
Like "shut the fuck up, glowbois, Putin's not gonna invade Ukraine."

Then the fucker actually went and fucking did it.
He actually fucking proved he's exactly the kind of dipshit the CIA/State Dep propaganda claims he is.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Oh shit, they got the scooby doo van
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Like, Scoob! I don't think we're getting back to Moscow anytime soon man!

 

[DumbDude42]

Especially when burgerland and friends will be pulling the same "track everything they doing from the second they start doing it and forwarding the dox to the nation being invaded" schtick they pulling with ukraine.

A naval invasion over 100 miles of sea against a country that knows exactly where each and every ship you have is and what they have onboard and which will have the choice of every top of the line anti-ship missile being mailed in bulk to their doorsteps for months beforehand by the west just to name one factor among very, very many is the kind of shit that makes operation sealion look like the fcking anchluss in terms of difficulty

naval invasion itself isnt even an option as long as the US navy remains intact. the chinese would first have to decisively defeat the american pacific fleet and expel it from the region, and i do not believe they are capable of doing that.