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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Again, you're one to talk, since the side you support conscripts men into an army where they are sexually abused and dominated by their fellow soldiers.



We are. We guarantee the safety and security of the world to ensure free trade and harmony. Because letting the world turn into Somalia 2.0 is bad for business and the world at large.
Many thousand of sexual assaults each year under the grandfather system for conscripts and officers are said to even sell some into male prostitution. That's as gay as Pootin lifting a little boy's tee shirt some years back in order to nuzzle him and kiss his belly button. Sounds gayer than two of Biden's uniformed tranny bureaucrats.
 
There was a guy on /k/ claiming Ukrainian soldiers are unlocking Russian phones using the deceased's fingers to taunt the dead's loved ones. I used to think such acts were abhorrent. I don't think so any more.

I am not aware of any Russian soldiers having their own smartphones, those were all confiscated before the training maneuvers, like two months ago.

Complete list of every soldier, their info (bdate/base etc) have been on torrents. You don't need dead man's smartphone to find his family number.

There is only ONE phone recording that's being recycled everywhere, it's by Volnov (https://www.youtube.com/c/volnov/videos) he is a prankster/showman and frankly he never shied away from pushing the limits of cringe. He had an entire show calling people in Russia and just trolling Putinbros ... but it got old real quick, it's like abusing mentally ill people, gets old real quick.
 
I am not aware of any Russian soldiers having their own smartphones, those were all confiscated before the training maneuvers, like two months ago.

Complete list of every soldier, their info (bdate/base etc) have been on torrents. You don't need dead man's smartphone to find his family number.

There is only ONE phone recording that's being recycled everywhere, it's by Volnov (https://www.youtube.com/c/volnov/videos) he is a prankster/showman and frankly he never shied away from pushing the limits of cringe. He had an entire show calling people in Russia and just trolling Putinbros ... but it got old real quick, it's like abusing mentally ill people, gets old real quick.
I'm going to work but I'll dig for the video when I come home. It's definitely a different guy.

Edit: Here's the video I was referencing. I found it on a /k/ thread.
 
I am not aware of any Russian soldiers having their own smartphones, those were all confiscated before the training maneuvers, like two months ago.

Complete list of every soldier, their info (bdate/base etc) have been on torrents. You don't need dead man's smartphone to find his family number.

There is only ONE phone recording that's being recycled everywhere, it's by Volnov (https://www.youtube.com/c/volnov/videos) he is a prankster/showman and frankly he never shied away from pushing the limits of cringe. He had an entire show calling people in Russia and just trolling Putinbros ... but it got old real quick, it's like abusing mentally ill people, gets old real quick.
Leaving soldiers with smartphones would certainly seem unwise. The Donbass militias, Kadyrovski are not under regular discipline, so perhaps they are the source of some clips, authorised propaganda footage aside.
 
All the worst globohomo shit also happens in the east, only real difference is, it's happening deep under the surface and nobody is allowed to talk about it, covering up your problems isn't a solution and we are at least aware of most of our problems.

It already is if you look at the West in the 70's and 80's counter culture and sub culture its already starting in the East, it's just slower as there isnt a active effort to support groups willing to distabalise the political ballence that are actively funded by Russia or China.

The west will fall regardless but you really don't want the east to be strong as it does because you're really not going to like their version of global ambitions either.

Your right it will, all cutltures rise and fall and then go away, the problem is there is nothing that will take its place, nothing to restabilise things, nothing to readjust to around a culturally we are fractured and we have done this to ourselfs (by we I mean people with the power and money to make decisions), we shipped our native techbase off shore for proffit over security, and became reliant on those technologies that we can't even ramp up locally any more because while we created it and the technology associated with it we've moved outside to countries an cultres who wanted a leg up and actively hated us.

India is unpredictable, because as people pointed out, there's a lot of pro and cons of India supporting Russia. What I'm seeing is that just as Saudi, Modiis most likely willing to abandon Russia if the West gave him some guarantee they won't bother his government about their ultranasionalist Hindutva shit


India is a Paper Tiger, it's got people and that's about it - The one thing we tried to instil in india was Education but India post empire did 2 things try and rewire its own history, and also preserve it's own home grown shit like the Caste system that is still very much alive - in India you buy your degree or certification and your performance is a minor part of your qualification - they also still have a caste based don't step outside your job culture adherence to work-life and how jobs work.

There is a very big thing in India about how new Technologies fit in with the Caste system, and there is officially unofficial questions about peoples backgrounds and castes starting to show up in recruitment and what peoples backgrounds means about how far they can advance.

This also happens in the Indian armed forces, it's not officially part of the doctrine but culturally it is
 
Leaving soldiers with smartphones would certainly seem unwise. The Donbass militias, Kadyrovski are not under regular discipline, so perhaps they are the source of some clips, authorised propaganda footage aside.
People need to stop thinking the phone confiscation policy means not a single Russian entered Ukraine with their personal phone. When I was in the US military we always found ways to sneak in contraband like pornography, non standard knifes or trophies in and out of deployments. I guarantee you at least 1 in every 10 Russian soldier snuck a phone in their gear to post on that shitty 4chan clone they have or jerk off to hentai when off duty.
 
I continue to wonder why the west doesn't use that as a counter to Russian threats. Forfeiting all their western held shit and handing it to Ukraine and as reparations for all the western stuff they nationalized in there recently.

If they ever get it back it'll just be used to build the army right back and attack something else.

Never a good idea to basically steal someone's money. Right now everything's locked up nicely and fine and it's spooked enough of the markets and others because these sanctions made the euro and dollar suspect enough China, India and Russia moved to their own payment schemes far quicker than planned.

They'd been mooting them as far back as 2016 or so, but got very little progress because everyone still beleived in the rock solid power of the dollar. Which got shattered.

Plus the few billions seized will hardly undo much of the ruin wrought.
 
It already is if you look at the West in the 70's and 80's counter culture and sub culture its already starting in the East, it's just slower as there isnt a active effort to support groups willing to distabalise the political ballence that are actively funded by Russia or China.



Your right it will, all cutltures rise and fall and then go away, the problem is there is nothing that will take its place, nothing to restabilise things, nothing to readjust to around a culturally we are fractured and we have done this to ourselfs (by we I mean people with the power and money to make decisions), we shipped our native techbase off shore for proffit over security, and became reliant on those technologies that we can't even ramp up locally any more because while we created it and the technology associated with it we've moved outside to countries an cultres who wanted a leg up and actively hated us.




India is a Paper Tiger, it's got people and that's about it - The one thing we tried to instil in india was Education but India post empire did 2 things try and rewire its own history, and also preserve it's own home grown shit like the Caste system that is still very much alive - in India you buy your degree or certification and your performance is a minor part of your qualification - they also still have a caste based don't step outside your job culture adherence to work-life and how jobs work.

There is a very big thing in India about how new Technologies fit in with the Caste system, and there is officially unofficial questions about peoples backgrounds and castes starting to show up in recruitment and what peoples backgrounds means about how far they can advance.

This also happens in the Indian armed forces, it's not officially part of the doctrine but culturally it is
Oh, right, forgot the caste system. The Caste System is so fucking retarded and feudal it's absurd India still implemented it. And ever since BPJ come into power, it got a whole lot worse. Like seriously, if you think idpol is bad, you haven't seen the caste system at all

Back to the matter though, India's trade with Russia is actually pretty small, so there's actually not that much they can do to help Russia except propping up their currency with extreme measures. As I said before, if the West want India to abandon Russia, they must allow Modi and BPJ get away with stuffs like lynching the Muslims and other human right violations. Basically allowing Modi to become Pajeet Putin but with even more retarded culture and ultranasionalist policy

Another thing the West can use to sweeten the deal is allowing India to buy Western weapons and vehicles at discounted price, and fast. But I don't know if both politicians and military will allow it
 
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Of course, I don't hold Russia blameless. This thread is a circle jerk though so I llke to add balance. Too many people are pretending Ukraine is blameless despite repeatedly poking the bear, and then demanding the middle class taxpayers in the US fix things. Fuck that. Stop listening to US "Advisers" (totally not CIA) knowing they're fucking neocon warmongers. You fell for it, that's your fucking problem.
"Poked the bear" - in what sense? They didn't want to live under Russia's influence, and if that bothers Russia, it's not Ukraine's fault.
Russia sees it as their duty to drag everyone else into their own filth.
 
"Poked the bear" - in what sense? They didn't want to live under Russia's influence, and if that bothers Russia, it's not Ukraine's fault.
Russia sees it as their duty to drag everyone else into their own filth.

Are you still under the impression that 2014 was some grassroots movement? You still don't realize the CIA doesn't want what's best for Ukraine, it simply wants to spread US imperialism and it is more than happy to throw Ukrainian bodies to the bears if it opens up a few more area to our control.

"Gee guys, I wonder why Russia doesn't want the US military on their border, the US military is normally very trustworthy and the US intelligence apparatus never foments revolution in countries for $$$. We can trust them guys, right? Guys?"

Meanwhile Russia is supposed to pretend that this isn't what imperialist expansion looks like? This is the US military gobbling up more and more territory, call it what it is. Of course they see it as a threat, why wouldn't they?

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Are you still under the impression that 2014 was some grassroots movement? You still don't realize the CIA doesn't want what's best for Ukraine, it simply wants to spread US imperialism and it is more than happy to throw Ukrainian bodies to the bears if it opens up a few more area to our control.

"Gee guys, I wonder why Russia doesn't want the US military on their border, the US military is normally very trustworthy and the US intelligence apparatus never foments revolution in countries for $$$. We can trust them guys, right? Guys?"

Meanwhile Russia is supposed to pretend that this isn't what imperialist expansion looks like? This is the US military gobbling up more and more territory, call it what it is. Of course they see it as a threat, why wouldn't they?

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Maybe don’t threaten to invade, or actually invade your neighbors multiple times then. If you act like a ghetto trash nigger you’re going to get treated like one.
 
Are you still under the impression that 2014 was some grassroots movement? You still don't realize the CIA doesn't want what's best for Ukraine, it simply wants to spread US imperialism and it is more than happy to throw Ukrainian bodies to the bears if it opens up a few more area to our control.
The CIA just helped the Ukrainian people get what they want: to get away from Russia and share in the wealth and prosperity of the West. Even in its nadir, the West is still far more economically viable than Russia. Maybe that's why smart Russians run away to the West, and why Russian oligarchs have houses all over the west and send their kids to school there.

"Gee guys, I wonder why Russia doesn't want the US military on their border, the US military is normally very trustworthy and the US intelligence apparatus never foments revolution in countries for $$$. We can trust them guys, right? Guys?"
The US military CAN BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. America owns Alaska, and if they wanted to threaten Russia, they can easily mass troops there and threaten to invade Eastern Russia.

Meanwhile Russia is supposed to pretend that this isn't what imperialist expansion looks like? This is the US military gobbling up more and more territory, call it what it is. Of course they see it as a threat, why wouldn't they?
Gobbling up what? The US military is basically just there because many nations fear Russia and don't trust them. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe it had to do with the Russians breaking their promises at the end of WW2 and seizing control of Eastern Europe? Or maybe it has to do with how the modern Russian leaders simp for the same USSR that kept many Warsaw Pact nations and ex-Soviet nations in abject poverty and military control?
 
What Russia did in WWII was wholly unjustifiable. They committed the worst acts of mass war rape in the history of war fare. They raped tens of millions. And it wasn't just Germans. They raped any woman they could get their hands on; Poles, Ukrainians, even Russian POWs. They raped every woman from 9 to 90, in many cases gang raping them, with 20 men or more. They were animals, and no amount of German atrocities could ever justify it. The French didn't rape every German they came across, despite having had their whole nation occupied by them. In many cases, the mass rape that's going on now just shows that the Russians haven't changed since WWII. They were animals then, and they are animals now, and wild animals that show themselves to be dangerous tend to get put down. I used to feel bad about the young guys conscripted in this war. Now? Fuck'em.

In even more depressing news: more articles on Russian atrocities (they used children as human shields):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ays-zelenskiy-us-gives-kyiv-300m-more-in-live

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ad-ukrainians-tell-of-russian-army-atrocities

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-human-shields-near-kyiv-say-witness-reports
hVe you heard of this thing called "The Rape of Nanking"? It's not a euphamism. The Russian Rape Gangs don't hold a candle to the Japanese in their prime.

From what I understand its a mixture of both. IRR flags are used on uniforms for nightime movements, and there's been a development of IRR helmet tags and other things.

However if you have to explain to a congressional hearing a $1.50 rattle can could've stopped a friendly fire incident because your fancy transponder wasn't working...
The US famously used an inverted V marking in dessert storm. The thing being they were marked in special IR visible paint. US vehicles at least used to have an IR identifier panel to avoid friendly fire through modern targeting systems. So not white paint from WalMart.
 
Just fucking laugh if you think Trump, the same sperg who showed open contempt for NATO and was easily swayed by strongmen like Putin, would have been hard on Russia. This orange nigger would inflame tensions with other countries for breakfast. His foreign policy was a joke that saw Russia and China circle around US global influence like vultures.

He literally withheld aid to Ukraine for some gay political favors from Zelensky. If he wasn't the worst US president then he was easily top five

Are you still under the impression that 2014 was some grassroots movement? You still don't realize the CIA doesn't want what's best for Ukraine, it simply wants to spread US imperialism and it is more than happy to throw Ukrainian bodies to the bears if it opens up a few more area to our control.

"Gee guys, I wonder why Russia doesn't want the US military on their border, the US military is normally very trustworthy and the US intelligence apparatus never foments revolution in countries for $$$. We can trust them guys, right? Guys?"

Meanwhile Russia is supposed to pretend that this isn't what imperialist expansion looks like? This is the US military gobbling up more and more territory, call it what it is. Of course they see it as a threat, why wouldn't they?

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I love how you retards keep posting these images as proof of US imperalism yet you never ask yourself:
"Why would these countries want to join NATO? "
 
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The CIA just helped the Ukrainian people get what they want

lol

The US military is basically just there because many nations fear Russia and don't trust them.

Is this where we compare how many wars and invasions have been initiated by the US vs Russia over the last 40 years? Russia's hands are far from clean, but it's ironic as fuck to then compare them to the US, champions of delivering "democracy" at the end of a gun.

He literally withheld aid to Ukraine for some gay political favors

Like this?

"Why would these countries want to join NATO? "

For money of course. It's easy to satiate your native spergs with free healthcare and edumucation when you don't have to buy bullets and tanks.
 
The CIA just helped the Ukrainian people get what they want: to get away from Russia and share in the wealth and prosperity of the West. Even in its nadir, the West is still far more economically viable than Russia. Maybe that's why smart Russians run away to the West, and why Russian oligarchs have houses all over the west and send their kids to school there.


The US military CAN BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. America owns Alaska, and if they wanted to threaten Russia, they can easily mass troops there and threaten to invade Eastern Russia.


Gobbling up what? The US military is basically just there because many nations fear Russia and don't trust them. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe it had to do with the Russians breaking their promises at the end of WW2 and seizing control of Eastern Europe? Or maybe it has to do with how the modern Russian leaders simp for the same USSR that kept many Warsaw Pact nations and ex-Soviet nations in abject poverty and military control?
Yeah. Who wants to be under Russian rule, like in the Russian future of Donetsk and Lugansk when you literally have nothing (except a tiny government wage) and (have to) be happy (or else)? It is suggested the Russian government is wholly happy at those middle class destroying sanctions. Middle class people look for expensive imports and rights. Better a lumpenproleteriat and peasant class who have to toil too hard for their bread and are too poor to be informed, than an annoying petit bourgeoisie. All successful CIA ventures whether the overthrow of Mossadegh and various coup d'etats were a result of a large portion of locals knowing Communism too well, and not wanting that as their future. And it should be also noted that the people who usually invoke the CIA have no idea whether or how they were involved.
 
Is this where we compare how many wars and invasions have been initiated by the US vs Russia over the last 40 years? Russia's hands are far from clean, but it's ironic as fuck to then compare them to the US, champions of delivering "democracy" at the end of a gun.
Are you seriously saying that America was worse than the USSR? Because if you are, then there's no helping you.

For money of course. It's easy to satiate your native spergs with free healthcare and edumucation when you don't have to buy bullets and tanks.
So basically, them joining NATO is a benefit to the people, since it gives them more money for taking care of their own kind while Americans do the military shit for them?

Sounds like something that's ten times better than what Russian satellite states get.

Maybe that's another reason why Ukraine wanted to join, huh?

Yeah. Who wants to be under Russian rule, like in the Russian future of Donetsk and Lugansk when you literally have nothing (except a tiny government wage) and (have to) be happy (or else)? It is suggested the Russian government is wholly happy at those middle class destroying sanctions. Middle class people look for expensive imports and rights. Better a lumpenproleteriat and peasant class who have to toil too hard for their bread and are too poor to be informed, than an annoying petit bourgeoisie. All successful CIA ventures whether the overthrow of Mossadegh and various coup d'etats were a result of a large portion of locals knowing Communism too well, and not wanting that as their future.
Can you blame them? Living as a satellite of the USSR was bad enough, living under a post-Communist Russian satellite is even worse.

And it should be also noted that the people who usually invoke the CIA have no idea whether or how they were involved.
Exactly. You might as well swap "CIA" with "Jews", "Freemasons", or "Jesuits", and you get the same conspiracy-theory bullshit deal.
 
It's still going to be decades to rebuild. You can't just inject 400 bil in liquid currency, it's going to be a scarred and beaten country who dared and was beaten bloody by a pack of joyless, brainless snow nigger mongoloids.

I do hope the reconstruction Funding is tied to stuff like LGBT rights etc, Will be entertaining for you to get monkey pawed.
 
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