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Anchors-Away said:
Whilst I understand a vast majority of you don't watch male NIJI talent, did any of you happen to listen to Mysta's overview of his trip/offline collaboration with Nina, Vox and Ike? I knew the guy was unhinged and inept, but I didn't foresee it going to such levels of borderline lunacy. I'll provide the key bullet points, so you don't have to suffer listening to a sickly British voice.
  • Arrived two hours early for his train and managed to bring the wrong paperwork to collect his tickets.
  • Journey itself resulted in Mysta having to board four different trains. However three of them where within London's Overground and Underground system. Claimed it was extremely expensive. Naturally he was flooded with donations to cover these "extreme" fees. (At most, he had to pay £9 within London)
  • Seeming cannot read the maps for either the Overground or Underground system, almost getting lost to the meet up point.
  • Mysta unironically wore Techwear and budget "Sports Direct" gear to the meet up, which reaffirms my belief he is a the product of the wonderful council estate housing system.
  • Nina wanted to explore quaint parts of London. Mysta, the Filipino Chav claims that "The UK has no culture but Football. Everything else is cringe."
  • Despite being allergic to chocolate, ate it almost exclusively on the trip. Only time he had an actual meal was when the group ordered something in advance.
  • On the first day, he went off on his own and avoided the group until his stream. Blames it on being introverted.
  • Refused to show any pictures of the trip, as he feared someone would dox the location/s they visited.
  • Second day, he went off on his own again to meet with an old friend. Gotta feel bad for Nina, Vox and Ike at this point.
  • Intentionally got white girl wasted, so he could socialise and partake in karaoke in the evening with them. Complained about Nina's cocktail mixing skills.
  • On his planned final day in London, seemingly lost his tickets and didn't know how to get a replacement.
  • Had a mild panic attack at the station and his first nose bleed of the trip, decided to book a new hotel and hid away for a day to plan his journey out.
  • Lied to Nina, Vox and Ike about his wellbeing as they departed. Seemingly got himself lost taking an afternoon stroll away from his newly rented hotel room.
  • Called up Mika from Niji ID and begun crying on the phone to her.
  • Didn't note down the new hotel he was staying at sent some poor taxi driver on a wild goose chase trying to find his place. Was abounded after the third hotel.
  • Hotel is a branch chain (likely Premier Inn) and was able to direct him to the correct location.
  • Calls up Mika from Niji ID again on the phone to try and calm himself down, has yet another nose bleed before puking up. Yes, she was on the phone listening to this man puke.
  • He decides to diagnose himself based upon Google information.
  • Security from the hotel is sent to check upon him, after seeing him covered in blood on CCTV.
  • Mysta didn't tell anyone in Niji EN or management about his health situation. Mika Niji ID seemingly was the only one alerted until this stream.
Beyond that, he'd constantly singling out "one guy" comments and going on passive aggressive rants at chat, including fixating on his numbers and analytics. How does this guy have the second largest viewing demographic? If he could barely handle London, what hope does he have when Niji begin to push him towards more music or other Idol oriented ventures?
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Boring. We need some drama or juicy infos. Comeback when they have an all NijiEN orgy party because they are just a bunch of regular corpo streamers that had distaste for “aidoru culture” . If that happened and Vox had most body count after the event, then he will become the most popular and will become the true “Holo killer”
 
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They only debuted 2 months ago lmao
 
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DrStupid said:
Meanwhile in gura's ongoing member zatsu, chat is sperging against gura streaming on twitch.
It's been a good five minutes of that whole thing already, meanwhile sharky is trying to mantain a positive attitude.




(I don't think you know what you're getting into with that, gura)



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Yeah I don't particularly get where chat is coming from either. You get 5 or so streams with "unclean streets" and in exchange your oshi gets 200 gift subs from people who have too much money on their hands.

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UkrainianStalker89 said:
After six months of using twitter a lot and getting banned and now seeing the entirety of the is DDK/CM raycist debate in the past few days confirms to me that Twitter is nothing more than a bunch of lunatics yelling at each other until they achieve the "purity" they need. She was 18 and her raps were uninformed and cringe and funny for an 18 year old. (fuck's sake, when you're missing Filthy Frank, you know immediately that the Twitter fucks hate you) Fuck, I regret every year from my early teens to my late 20's that I use the internet because there's bound to be cringe and shit you don't agree with years later. But as we've established, sanity, anger-baiting and forgivance is hard to go around these days.
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I mean, we're on a site right now that basically exists to laugh at other people and stir drama. People actually upset at Karen/Mori are dumb but I won't lie, the tweet that sparked all of this (the one which dubbed her "Rapanese" song over her recent Mori stream) and a lot of the lean jokes got a laugh out of me. Cringe is funny and Karen delivers it in spades.
 
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Serbian Peacekeepers said:
I don't think Holo is gonna move to twitch , at most they might have a "every other stream" type schedule , but more likely holo's will get a choice of where to stream on and some will pick twitch over youtube from time to time , maybe cover wants more view interaction and youtube doesnt really allow that.
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Selen has actually been doing a really smart strategy with her Twitch streams. She'll stream a day on Twitch, then upload the VOD on Youtube and essentially rebroadcast it as a premier on one of her rest days. Thereby reaping the superchats that may come along with watching the VOD. Wouldn't be a bad idea to copy that particular strategy.
 
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Anchors-Away said:
Whilst I understand a vast majority of you don't watch male NIJI talent, did any of you happen to listen to Mysta's overview of his trip/offline collaboration with Nina, Vox and Ike? I knew the guy was unhinged and inept, but I didn't foresee it going to such levels of borderline lunacy. I'll provide the key bullet points, so you don't have to suffer listening to a sickly British voice.
  • Arrived two hours early for his train and managed to bring the wrong paperwork to collect his tickets.
  • Journey itself resulted in Mysta having to board four different trains. However three of them where within London's Overground and Underground system. Claimed it was extremely expensive. Naturally he was flooded with donations to cover these "extreme" fees. (At most, he had to pay £9 within London)
  • Seeming cannot read the maps for either the Overground or Underground system, almost getting lost to the meet up point.
  • Mysta unironically wore Techwear and budget "Sports Direct" gear to the meet up, which reaffirms my belief he is a the product of the wonderful council estate housing system.
  • Nina wanted to explore quaint parts of London. Mysta, the Filipino Chav claims that "The UK has no culture but Football. Everything else is cringe."
  • Despite being allergic to chocolate, ate it almost exclusively on the trip. Only time he had an actual meal was when the group ordered something in advance.
  • On the first day, he went off on his own and avoided the group until his stream. Blames it on being introverted.
  • Refused to show any pictures of the trip, as he feared someone would dox the location/s they visited.
  • Second day, he went off on his own again to meet with an old friend. Gotta feel bad for Nina, Vox and Ike at this point.
  • Intentionally got white girl wasted, so he could socialise and partake in karaoke in the evening with them. Complained about Nina's cocktail mixing skills.
  • On his planned final day in London, seemingly lost his tickets and didn't know how to get a replacement.
  • Had a mild panic attack at the station and his first nose bleed of the trip, decided to book a new hotel and hid away for a day to plan his journey out.
  • Lied to Nina, Vox and Ike about his wellbeing as they departed. Seemingly got himself lost taking an afternoon stroll away from his newly rented hotel room.
  • Called up Mika from Niji ID and begun crying on the phone to her.
  • Didn't note down the new hotel he was staying at sent some poor taxi driver on a wild goose chase trying to find his place. Was abounded after the third hotel.
  • Hotel is a branch chain (likely Premier Inn) and was able to direct him to the correct location.
  • Calls up Mika from Niji ID again on the phone to try and calm himself down, has yet another nose bleed before puking up. Yes, she was on the phone listening to this man puke.
  • He decides to diagnose himself based upon Google information.
  • Security from the hotel is sent to check upon him, after seeing him covered in blood on CCTV.
  • Mysta didn't tell anyone in Niji EN or management about his health situation. Mika Niji ID seemingly was the only one alerted until this stream.
Beyond that, he'd constantly singling out "one guy" comments and going on passive aggressive rants at chat, including fixating on his numbers and analytics. How does this guy have the second largest viewing demographic? If he could barely handle London, what hope does he have when Niji begin to push him towards more music or other Idol oriented ventures?
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I've never really been that much into Mysta because a lot of his humor comes off as very fake "lol look how dumb I am" stuff. Like his story about drinking soap or whatever. He's one of the few NijiENs that I don't really care to watch anymore. That being said, based on all of that (presuming it is true - and it seems weird and detailed enough that it may be) then maybe he really is as much of a disaster as he makes himself out to be.

That being said, I don't think there's much evidence of Niji pushing anyone towards music. I mean they certainly aren't pushing the likes of Kataribe, Yaguruma, or Gilzaren to do anything , and there's not much indication of them making the ENs do songs after their debut even though various EN members probably got into the branch based in part on their singing ability (like Reimu,).
 
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You all are way too bent up over the Twitch thing lol. Being on Twitch is basically free money for them. They can stream like once or twice a month and make bank off subs just for the emotes. That alone makes it worth it for them. Plus the viewerbase of tribalfags at Twitch who refuse to go elsewhere is potential cash.

Also the doom-and-gloom over having to go to Twitch is hilarious. Literally go directly to the members pages and you dont have to see the rest of the site. You get retards in chat regardless of whether you are on YT and Twitch. The chat experience is trash on both, between YT's laggy, crappily coded chat and Twitch's spam.
 
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Caxxx said:
You all are way too bent up over the Twitch thing lol. Being on Twitch is basically free money for them. They can stream like once or twice a month and make bank off subs just for the emotes. That alone makes it worth it for them. Plus the viewerbase of tribalfags at Twitch who refuse to go elsewhere is potential cash.

Also the doom-and-gloom over having to go to Twitch is hilarious. Literally go directly to the members pages and you dont have to see the rest of the site. You get retards in chat regardless of whether you are on YT and Twitch. The chat experience is trash on both, between YT's laggy, crappily coded chat and Twitch's spam.
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Unfortunately, as bad, laggy, and unfunny as YouTube chat can be, it still manages to be better than Twitch's.
 
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the worst that comes from hololive on twitch is that they are retarded and they don't archive those streams anywhere, imagine how many streams that are fucking gold would go to shit because of not archiving or rebroadcasting (including unarchived karaoke streams which they could rebroadcast on youtube)
 
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LillyWhite said:
Yeah I don't particularly get where chat is coming from either. You get 5 or so streams with "unclean streets" and in exchange your oshi gets 200 gift subs from people who have too much money on their hands.

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I DON'T CARE PURPLE SITE MAKES ME ANGRY REEEEEEEE

This is the same community where one of its biggest discord servers banned anyone that even referenced pepe frog including a fanartist of someone making Pekora look like the pepe frog. Doesn't surprise me there are people that unironically think that.

danny jr said:
Unfortunately, as bad, laggy, and unfunny as YouTube chat can be, it still manages to be better than Twitch's.
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They're both equally bad, get over yourself.
 
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I just recently found this youtube channel. The guy posts Hololive songs with fan translations at the bottom. I think it add something to the experience for non-JP speakers like me. Here's Botan's Lioness' Pride with translations.


Gavlet Gablae said:
To build off my comment yesterday about twitch and its ecosystem, I used to use the site to browse Dota 2 streamers while I still played it(so this was well over 3 years ago) and even then it was constantly pushing non-gaming content onto my frontpage. I swear I've done my best to not see Amouranth's ugly face but almost every time I opened the site she was up front and center or on my sidebar. I don't know what I did to make the algorithm think all I wanted to see was her, but it made even opening the site an obnoxious chore. I'm probably a retard and missed some sort of mute/block function but I swear to god I looked all over at the time. It left an intensely bad taste in my mouth, and nothing I've heard about the site since(the deer weirdo comes to mind every time I think about twitch) has made it sound any better than what I left it as.

Again, this is speaking as someone who last tried to seriously use the site maybe three years ago, but it felt like it's out of your hands in how you curate what you see on the site. I wish I could put up with it to watch Jerma live, but I'm a pissbaby who just can't stand it.
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Addons like Better TTV allow you to disable autoplay on Twitch and make other quality of life improvements. But yeah, the site unmodified is awful.
 
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RiverBear said:
I personally dislike Twitch because the site fucking sucks unless you have REALLY good internet.
This comes from experience when I used to watch LOL Worlds at Twitch before they moved to other platforms.
Idk if they fixed or changed it, but I remember when non-partner streams used to be 1080p or just don't watch lmao. I also remember when 144p was still laggy as shit.

I personally prefer Youtube because it's a better experience for a variety of people.
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I hate it cause
1. No 2x function for VODs on mobile

2. The chat breaks way too much tho youtubes ain't much better

3. It eats my phone battery for breakfast everytime i watch a VOD

That said provided the VODs get to youtube in a timely fashion idgaf where they stream i rarely catch them live anyway

2DUM4U said:
I just recently found this youtube channel. The guy posts Hololive songs with fan translations at the bottom. I think it add something to the experience for non-JP speakers like me. Here's Botan's Lioness' Pride with translations.



Addons like Better TTV allow you to disable autoplay on Twitch and make other quality of life improvements. But yeah, the site unmodified is awful.
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Yeah i discovered them recently too he has a bunch for Callis raps translating the jp all too prevalent (please calli make en subs for your jp parts a habit)

He just released one for Wicked too


In other news my 2View is back at it again with Elden Ring i enjoy his titles and simple thumbnails
 
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