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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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I don't think he would have tried anything with Trump for one simple reason: Trump was crazy, and he had term limits. Trump said he'd bomb Moscow if they fucked with Ukraine. Putin probably figured he was bluffing, Trump was almost certainly bluffing, but why take the risk?

I can't stand Trump, but agree 100% with you on this. His craziness was probably a deterrent all by itself to Putin (or anybody else).
 
It is oddly fascinating watch the various Western Nations send in more and more of their ever more insane killing devices for field testing against the Russian Conscripts. You'd almost feel sorry for them if it wasn't for the Rapes, Murders and Dog Murders.

I had been wondering about that helicopter being cut in two. Apparently it's the Brits showing off their new Starstreak MANPAD system. Just look at that missile. Now there's a weapon meant to look insane and intimidating.
 
It is oddly fascinating watch the various Western Nations send in more and more of their ever more insane killing devices for field testing against the Russian Conscripts. You'd almost feel sorry for them if it wasn't for the Rapes, Murders and Dog Murders.
They also have had Green Berets training them for years, and a lot of the lessons we've learned from the muj are trickling down to the Ukrainians. So when I see things like this:
T-72 captured & stripped of ERA
Locals preparing to burn a Russian T-72B Obr 1989 tank. It has been stripped of useful items, such as NSV HMG & Kontakt-5 4S22 ERA blocks, each containing 0.28kg of PVV-12M RDX-based explosives that can be harvested.
Something tells me the Russians are going to be fucked by IEDs in the future; especially with explosive-formed penetrators, which are easy to make. Iran made & sent a lot of EFPs to Iraq, but haji could make a lot of shit from just a single 155 round they dug out of the ground.

Those ERA blocks are almost purpose-made to be turned into IEDs, and just imagine what a bunch Ukrainians instructed by Green Berets could do with them......
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Since we're talking about Orban, apparently he declared Zelensky to be one of the "enemies" he defeated in his election



Here's the rest of the article if you want to read on

Based Hungary being absolutely useless and a deadweight for the western camp
Really weird to me he'd make such a comment since it puts him more at odds against Western countries than if he just stayed quiet on the subject. Creates yet another excuse for other countries to try and punish Hungary for acting out of line. Even looks like the EU had a case decided saying they had the ability to suspend aid to Hungary based on rule-of-law conditionality, which siding with Putin I would think creates a possible argument for why Orban is in violation since Putin is like ultra-Hitler to a lot of people now.

 
They also have had Green Berets training them for years, and a lot of the lessons we've learned from the muj are trickling down to the Ukrainians. So when I see things like this:
T-72 captured & stripped of ERA

Something tells me the Russians are going to be fucked by IEDs in the future; especially with explosive-formed penetrators, which are easy to make. Iran made & sent a lot of EFPs to Iraq, but haji could make a lot of shit from just a single 155 round they dug out of the ground.

Those ERA blocks are almost purpose-made to be turned into IEDs, and just imagine what a bunch Ukrainians instructed by Green Berets could do with them......
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Supposedly already in use
Though I think it's something more heavy duty at work
 
hVe you heard of this thing called "The Rape of Nanking"? It's not a euphamism. The Russian Rape Gangs don't hold a candle to the Japanese in their prime.
Oh I am quite aware of the Rape of Nanking (we had a huge, multipage discussion about it in the History Youtubers thread). But that was singular (if extraordinary) event. We talking about a concerted campaign of rape and terror across an entire continent, for years.
 
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Supposedly already in use
Though I think it's something more heavy duty at work
Not hard. An old US 105mm howitzer shell from WW2 had five pounds or so of filler in it. A 155mm had fifteen and a half. Bury that in the ground, set up some sort of detonator... no more vehicle. And that's just the shell. Bury a complete projectile nose-up, fit a starter to the base of the propellant, got yourself a fougasse from hell.
 
Go fuck yourself.

Nothing Against Ukraine, hell i like Authoritarian Russia even less, but Ukraine victory strenghtens the Globohomo thats been grooming kids, trying to normalize pedophilia etc, while Russian victory weakens it, You ended on enemy list without any fault of your own, world is fucked up place.
 
It is oddly fascinating watch the various Western Nations send in more and more of their ever more insane killing devices for field testing against the Russian Conscripts. You'd almost feel sorry for them if it wasn't for the Rapes, Murders and Dog Murders.

I had been wondering about that helicopter being cut in two. Apparently it's the Brits showing off their new Starstreak MANPAD system. Just look at that missile. Now there's a weapon meant to look insane and intimidating.
It does fill me with confidence that had it ever come to blows with Ivan, Ivan would have been utterly ruined. These are our old surplus systems, in the main, now imagine if Russia was being dominated in the sky and was outnumbered.
 
Nothing Against Ukraine, hell i like Authoritarian Russia even less, but Ukraine victory strenghtens the Globohomo thats been grooming kids, trying to normalize pedophilia etc, while Russian victory weakens it, You ended on enemy list without any fault of your own, world is fucked up place.
You realize which people run Russia?
 
Nothing Against Ukraine, hell i like Authoritarian Russia even less, but Ukraine victory strenghtens the Globohomo thats been grooming kids, trying to normalize pedophilia etc, while Russian victory weakens it, You ended on enemy list without any fault of your own, world is fucked up place.
I fail to see how russian soldiers raping Ukrainian women in front of their children is conducive to this goal.
You people are fucking deranged. You're vicariously living out your insane fantasies through Putin and his goblin army like some goddamn cucks.
 
Satellite imagery found a 45ft long mass graves in Bucha
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Apparently Maxar, the company who produced these images, also said they have found excavations work on the same site starting from March 10. I specifically remember a video tweet of men digging holes in what appeared to be the same place, judging from the clay-like soil. I'll find the tweet again

And just as some people predicted, there appears to be a shift of policy in the West after the atrocities in the town was discovered. Things are going to be spicier
 
Nothing Against Ukraine, hell i like Authoritarian Russia even less, but Ukraine victory strenghtens the Globohomo thats been grooming kids, trying to normalize pedophilia etc, while Russian victory weakens it, You ended on enemy list without any fault of your own, world is fucked up place.

Russia conscripts men into an army where they are brutally tortured and raped. It makes "GLOBOHOMO" look positively prudish and family-friendly in comparison.

Russian victory won't weaken GLOBOHOMO in the West. It would just make them less tolerant and more paranoid, while Eastern Europe gets overrun by an army that establishes male dominance through sodomy. Well, the Russians wanted to become the Third Rome, looks like they inherited some things from Rome after all. Pagan Rome, that is.
 
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EU must discuss import ban on Russian gas, German defence minister says

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BERLIN, April 3 (Reuters) - Germany's defence minister said on Sunday that the European Union must discuss banning the import of Russian gas after Ukrainian and European officials accused Russian forces of committing atrocities near Kyiv.
"There has to be a response. Such crimes must not remain unanswered," the defence ministry quoted Christine Lambrecht as saying in an interview with the public broadcaster ARD.

Berlin has so far resisted growing calls to impose an embargo on energy imports from Russia, saying its economy and that of other European countries are too dependent on them. Russia supplies 40% of Europe's gas needs.

But Lambrecht said EU ministers would now have to discuss a ban, according to a tweet from her ministry.

Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock on Sunday also called for tougher sanctions on Moscow but stopped short of mentioning the energy sector.

"Those responsible for these war crimes must be made accountable. We will tighten the sanctions against Russia and will assist Ukraine even more in defending itself," she said on Twitter.

The EU has been working on additional sanctions for some time but Economic Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni said on Saturday that any additional measures would not affect the energy sector.

Ukraine said on Saturday it had taken complete control of the Kyiv region for the first time since Russia launched its invasion on Feb. 24. The mayor of Bucha, a liberated town 37 km (23 miles) northwest of the capital, said 300 residents had been killed by the Russian army.

Russia's defence ministry denied the allegation, saying footage and photographs showing dead bodies in Bucha were "yet another provocation" by Kyiv.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz called in a statement for international organisations such as the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to be allowed access to the affected areas to independently document what he described as atrocities.

Germany says West to agree more sanctions on Russia after Bucha killings

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LVIV, Ukraine, April 3 (Reuters) - Germany said on Sunday that the West would agree to impose more sanctions on Russia in the coming days after Ukraine accused Russian forces of war crimes near Kyiv, ratchetting up the already vast economic pressure on Russia over its invasion.

Russia's economy is facing the gravest crisis since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union after the United States and its allies imposed crippling sanctions due to Putin's Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine.

Russia on Sunday denied its forces were responsible for the deaths of civilians in the town of Bucha and said Ukraine had staged a performance for the Western media.
Reuters saw corpses strewn across the town. One appeared to have his hands bound by the white cloth, and to have been shot in the mouth. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy accused Russia of carrying out a "genocide".

The West warned of more sanctions.

"Putin and his supporters will feel the consequences" of their actions, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said in a statement to reporters in the chancellery.
German Defence Minister Christine Lambrecht said the European Union should talk about ending Russian gas imports.

Germany, Europe's largest economy, has so far resisted calls to impose an embargo on energy imports from Russia, saying its economy and that of other European countries are too dependent on them. Russia supplies 40% of Europe's gas needs.

The United States said that those responsible for any war crimes must be held responsible, Britain said it was stepping up its sanctions and France condemned "massive abuses" by Russian forces in Ukraine.

SANCTIONS
The Kremlin says the West's sanctions - the most burdensome in modern history - amount to a declaration of economic war and that Moscow will now look eastwards to partners such as China and India.

Largely cut off from the West's economies, Russia is facing the biggest economic contraction for decades while prices are rising. Putin said that the West understands nothing about Russia if it thinks Russians will give in to sanctions.

Still, cutting off Russian gas - or more of Russia's natural resources - would wipe out growth in Europe's biggest economies, send energy prices to records and propel an inflationary shockwave through the global economy.

Russia, which has supplied gas to Europe since the 1970s, would be deprived of hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign currency earnings. It would likely toughen its response to the "economic war" of the West.

"The world is much bigger than Europe - and in fact Russia is much bigger than Europe - so sooner or later we will have a dialogue no matter what people across the ocean want," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Channel One state television.
Ukraine called for a full oil, gas and coal embargo, a ban on Russian vessels and cargos and the disconnection of all Russian banks from SWIFT.

Russia's Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine has killed thousands of people and displaced millions.

Putin says the "special military operation" in Ukraine is necessary because the United States was using Ukraine to threaten Russia and Moscow had to defend against the persecution of Russian-speaking people by Ukraine.

Ukraine says Moscow launched a war of aggression and that Putin's claims of persecution are nonsense.

Conscripts sent to fight by pro-Russia Donbas get little training, old rifles, poor supplies - sources

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LONDON, April 4 (Reuters) - Military conscripts in the Russian-backed Donbas region have been sent into front-line combat against Ukrainian troops with no training, little food and water, and inadequate weapons, six people in the separatist province told Reuters.

The new accounts of untrained and ill-equipped conscripts being deployed are a fresh indication of how stretched the military resources at the Kremlin's disposal are, over a month into a war that has seen Moscow's forces hobbled by logistical problems and held up by fierce Ukrainian resistance.

One of the people, a student conscripted in late February, said a fellow fighter told him to prepare to repel a close-quarter attack by Ukrainian forces in southwest Donbas but "I don't even know how to fire an automatic weapon."

The student and his unit fired back and evaded capture, but he was injured in a later battle. He did not say when the fighting took place.

While some information indicating poor conditions and morale among Donbas conscripts has emerged in social media and some local media outlets, Reuters was able to assemble one of the most comprehensive pictures to date.

Besides the student draftee, Reuters spoke to three wives of conscripts who have mobile phone contact with their partners, one acquaintance of a draftee, and one source close to the pro-Russian separatist leadership who is helping to organize supplies for the Donbas armed forces.

Reuters verified the identity of the student, as well as the other sources and the draftees they are associated with. The news agency was unable to confirm independently the accounts of what happened to the men once they were drafted.

The six sources all asked that their full names not be published, saying that they feared reprisals for speaking to foreign media.

The Donbas armed forces are fighting alongside Russian soldiers but are not part of the Russian armed forces, which have different rules about which troops they send into combat.

Several Donbas draftees have been issued with a rifle called a Mosin, which was developed in the late 19th century and went out of production decades ago, according to three people who saw conscripts from the separatist region using the weapon. Images shared on social media, that Reuters has not been able to verify independently, also showed Donbas fighters with Mosin rifles.

The student said he was forced to drink water from a fetid pond because of lack of supplies. Two other sources in contact with draftees also told Reuters the men had to drink untreated water.

Some Donbas conscripts were given the highly dangerous mission of drawing enemy fire onto themselves so other units could identify the Ukrainian positions and bomb them, according to one of the sources and video testimony from a prisoner of war published by Ukrainian forces.

Asked to comment about the treatment and low morale of the Donbass draftees, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said it was a question for the Donetsk People's Republic (DNR), the self-proclaimed separatist entity in Donbas. The Russian defence ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

A spokeswoman for the DNR administration, after viewing Reuters questions, said there would be no response on Friday. She did not say when the administration would reply. Messages left with a spokesman for the separatist military went unanswered.
After being pushed to the front line near the port of Mariupol -- scene of the heaviest fighting in the war -- a group of about 135 Donbas conscripts laid down their arms and refused to fight on, according to Veronika, the partner of a conscript, who said her husband was among them. Marina, partner of another conscript, said she had been in contact with a friend who was part of the same group.

"We're refusing (to fight)," the friend wrote in a text message to Marina, seen by Reuters.
The men were kept in a basement by military commanders as punishment, Veronika and Marina said. Commanders verbally threatened them with reprisals but subsequently allowed the group out of the basement, pulled them back from the front line and billeted them in abandoned homes, Veronika said.

Neither the Kremlin nor separatist authorities answered Reuters questions about the incident.

CALL-UP
All sides in the Ukraine war have systems of conscription, where young men are required by law to do military service.

Ukraine's government has declared a general mobilisation, meaning that conscripts and reservists have been deployed to fight.

Russia says it is not deploying conscripts in Ukraine, though it has acknowledged a small number were mistakenly sent to fight.

The Donetsk separatist authorities announced in late February they were drafting all fighting age men for immediate deployment.

Military recruitment officers appeared at workplaces around the Donetsk region and told employees to report for duty, while police ordered people in the streets to report to their local draft office, according to a Reuters reporter who was there in late February. Anyone not complying risks prosecution.

Reuters could not determine how many people have been called up, nor what proportion of Donbas forces is comprised of draftees.

None of the five draftees had prior military experience or training, and four of the five were given no training before they were sent into combat, according to the injured draftee, the three wives of conscripted men, and the acquaintance.

"He never served in the army," said one of the partners, who gave her name as Olga and lives in the town of Makeevka. "He doesn't even really know how to hold an automatic weapon."

Two of the wives said their partners were deployed to the front line, where they saw heavy fighting.

"I'm in the war," read a text message, seen by Reuters, that Marina, also from Makeevka, said came from her drafted husband.

Marina said she learned from messages from her husband that his unit, fighting in the Donbas region, was ordered to draw enemy fire on to themselves.

Ukrainian forces on March 12 published a video showing a prisoner of war. He said his name was Ruslan Khalilov, that he was a civil servant from Donbas and that he was sent with zero training to Mariupol where his role was to draw enemy fire to facilitate the bombing of Ukrainian targets.

A person in Donbas who knows Khalilov confirmed to Reuters his identity, that he was drafted and has no military training. Reuters established that the person knows Khalilov.

"SLAUGHTERHOUSE"
The student draftee who spoke to Reuters said that a day after reporting for duty he was put in a mortar unit then sent towards the fighting. "We were taught nothing," he wrote to Reuters via messenger app.

"Up to that point I had only seen mortars in movies. Obviously, I didn't know how to do anything with them."

He said that before he left, his unit had been under repeated attack by Ukrainian troops. "There were lots of casualties," he wrote. "I hate the war. I don't want it, curse it. Why are they sending me into a slaughterhouse?"

All the accounts gathered by Reuters mentioned an acute shortage of supplies. The sources described little or no safe drinking water, field rations for one man being shared among several, and units having to scavenge food.

"We drank water with dead frogs in it," said the student conscript.

"Supplies for the soldiers right now are a disaster," said the source close to the Donetsk separatist leadership, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Neither the Kremlin nor the separatist authorities replied to Reuters’ questions about supplies and equipment for the draftees from Donbas.

WORLD WAR TWO RIFLE
The same source said some conscripts were issued with the Mosin rifle from reserve stocks that date back to the Second World War.

The student conscript said he has seen fellow fighters using the rifle: "It's like we're fighting with World War Two muskets."

A soldier in the Russian armed forces who is fighting near Mariupol told Reuters he had seen soldiers from the Donetsk separatist military carrying Mosin rifles.

A video posted on social media on Tuesday by Russian military journalist Semyon Pegov showed a man who said he was a Donbas draftee brandishing a Mosin rifle.

Soon after the men were drafted in late February, many of their wives, mothers, and sisters started writing petitions to the separatist leadership, to Donbas draft offices, and to the Kremlin, describing their treatment and seeking help.

"Bring us back our men," said one petition addressed to Russian President Vladimir Putin, seen by Reuters.

The three wives of draftees who spoke to Reuters said they received no definitive answers.

On March 11, about 100 women gathered outside the separatist administration’s offices in Donetsk to demand answers, in a rare public show of dissent.

Two women who took part in the gathering said Alexander Malkovsky, the head of the DNR draft office, came out and told them that men aged 18 to 27 would be exempted from the draft. Reuters couldn't determine if this has been implemented, and was unable to reach Malkovsky.

Two of the conscripts' wives said that since the gathering they learned from their partners that conditions had improved: some units were pulled back from the front line and allowed to sleep in abandoned homes, instead of in trenches.

Poland’s prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki has said Germany is the main roadblock to new European Union sanctions on Russia.

Reuters reports that asked about the implications of Viktor Orbán winning his fourth consecutive term as Hungary’s prime minister at a news conference, Morawiecki said “We have to see that, regardless of how we approach Hungary, this is the fourth such win and we have to respect democratic elections ... it’s Germany that is the main roadblock on sanctions. Hungary is for the sanctions.”
France’s President Emmanuel Macron has just called on France Inter radio for new sanctions in response to what has happened in Ukraine’s Bucha. Reuters reports he said there are very clear clues today pointing to war crimes in Ukraine, and that new sanctions are needed to act as a power of dissuasion.

“What happened in Bucha demands a new round of sanctions and very clear measures,” Macron added. Those new sanctions should target coal and oil, said Macron, who faces a re-election battle this month.
Russia’s foreign ministry said that footage of dead civilians in the Ukrainian town of Bucha had been “ordered” by the United States as part of a plot to blame Russia.

“Who are the masters of provocation? Of course the United States and Nato,” ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in an interview on state television late on Sunday, Reuters reports.

Zakharova said the immediate Western outcry over the images of dead civilians indicated the story had been part of a plan to sully Russia’s reputation.

“In this case, it seems to me that the fact that these statements (about Russia) were made in the first minutes after these materials appeared leaves no doubt as to who ‘ordered’ this story.”

Zakharova offered no evidence to back these claims.

Russia mobilising another 60,000 soldiers, Ukraine military says​

The Ukrainian military has just released its operational report as of 6am this morning, claiming Russia has launched a “hidden mobilisation” of around 60,000 soldiers to replenish units lost in Ukraine.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation plans to engage around 60,000 people during the mobilisation,” the general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces said.
Officials added the Ukrainian forces thwarted seven attack in the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk over the past 24 hours.
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Orbanfags are rewritting history. According to them (this MILF is a big person in Orban gang) invasion of 1956 was carried by... Ukraine!

And no, Khruschchev wasn't a Ukrainian. Both of his parents was russian peasants, he was born in modern-day Russia and have nothing with Ukraine until 1939.


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