Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

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  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

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The Soviet Union imploded in part because they couldn't make their economy keep up with Europe and the US.

This is beyond retarded.

There are 100+ countries with economies that can't compete with EU and US, and they are not imploding. Even fucking North Korea.

SU fell apart, because commies kept lying and making bullshit promises. Kept being caught lying and breaking promises. Until no one could possibly trust and believe any of the shit they were saying and russians decided to try a new thing.
 
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The Soviet Union imploded in part because they couldn't make their economy keep up with Europe and the US.
Yeah, because it was a shit system that would inevitably implode. No one except for the laissez-faire types thought this would happen (so 99% of them thought so). Only Rothbard (ancap) wrote about what was going to happen.
Plus without NATO we'd probably have had a few more wars ongoing in the region. Either between Greece and Turkey, or between parts of the former Yugoslavia. As someone said previously, NATO kind of doubles as a force that's sitting on old European grudges and discouraging people from resolving them by shooting at each other lest the US get involved.
You would've killed eachother if America wasn't involved? After WWI/WWII you couldn't figure that war with eachother is bad? We should've left you for yourselves (while selling products to you). America could've been the based trinket seller, but instead had to get involved in your affairs.
 
okay day 30 something i lost count, what is the plan now since they moved away from taking Kyiv?
 
This is beyond retarded.

There are 100+ countries with economies that can't compete with EU and US, and they are not imploding. Even fucking North Korea.

SU fell apart, because commies kept lying and making bullshit promises. Kept being caught lying and breaking promises. Until no one could possibly trust and believe any of the shit they were saying and russians decided to try a new thing.
I'm not claiming that it's the only factor, just that it's an important factor. Most of those countries aren't trying to keep up with the US in the same way that the Soviet Union did. Including North Korea who mostly just makes noise in their own small pond, and even then North Korean would be better off spending its resources improving its civil situation over trying to develop long range missiles and nukes.

Part of the reason the commies couldn't keep their promises was the arms race. They couldn't get their house in order enough to build an army/navy/air force that could go toe to toe with the US, while also building a robust civilian sector.

Putin's made some of the same mistakes by sinking a lot of money and resources into a navy he has no real use for, while his land army has stagnated and decayed.

After WWI/WWII you couldn't figure that war with eachother is bad?
No, they couldn't seeing as the Yugoslav Wars happened, and Greece has had quite the tensions with Turkey over the years.
 
Small joke.

Chechens finish the war.
Russian high command is shocked,they raped nobody.
Putin recieves the news and spits his morning banana in shock too.
So he sends envoy to kadyrov to ask.

So kadyrov looks at russian general and calls for a veteran corporal.

Veteran enters room,gets question from general and says.

"We could not rape ukrainians even if we wanted too,Quran forbids us from touching pork."
 
Probably consolidate their gains down south, secure the cities they taken, then try and eliminate the main Ukie army in the east.

The Ukies, of course, would want to prevent this.
I keep expecting something to happen at Zhaporizhye because it would both be a valuable objective for Russia, and a likely staging area for a Ukrainian counterattack, but nothing ever happens.
 
"Any seasoned drone operators interested in doing drone recon on front lines? I have been so far but I’m wearing too many hats and need to delegate a couple of them"
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"... on front lines"

Edit - Unrelated but interesting to share:
A Chinese AR-165 assault drone armed with a Type 95 rifle.
I think it's safe to assume that both sides have similar drones.
 
I keep expecting something to happen at Zhaporizhye because it would both be a valuable objective for Russia, and a likely staging area for a Ukrainian counterattack, but nothing ever happens.
They probably don't want to advance on Zaporizhzhia until they can try and reach it from the west, like Kiev it's divided by the Dnieper, and trying to take a city without first encircling it to prevent reinforcements and supplies getting in is neigh impossible without suffering utterly horrific casualties.
 
"Any seasoned drone operators interested in doing drone recon on front lines? I have been so far but I’m wearing too many hats and need to delegate a couple of them"
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"... on front lines"

Edit - Unrelated but interesting to share:
A Chinese AR-165 assault drone armed with a Type 95 rifle.
I think it's safe to assume that both sides have similar drones.
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Thats not a particularly practical battlefield drone setup, there's way better options than just slapping a regular rifle on one, makes me wonder if its just a tech demonstration. The whole setup just seems gimmicky as fuck.
 
They probably don't want to advance on Zaporizhzhia until they can try and reach it from the west, like Kiev it's divided by the Dnieper, and trying to take a city without first encircling it to prevent reinforcements and supplies getting in is neigh impossible without suffering utterly horrific casualties.
Yes, but that works both ways which is why I'm surprised Russia hasn't attempted it. South from there, is all Russia held ground, and you pretty much have to go all the way up to Dnipro in order to find another crossing. Let's say one of the besieged Ukrainian forces in the South East pulled off a miracle and managed to completely break one of the sieges. It would be a lot easier to regroup with the rest of the Ukrainian forces if they still held Zaporizhzhia, and it would also give the Ukrainian military a chance to capitalize on the victory by launching counterattacks against other besieged cities. Likewise, Dnipro is kind of a high-risk crossing for either side due to the layout of the city and bridges. There are a lot of places either side could get pocketed in and end up in an absolute massacre.
 
Thats not a particularly practical battlefield drone setup, there's way better options than just slapping a regular rifle on one, makes me wonder if its just a tech demonstration. The whole setup just seems gimmicky as fuck.
Its pretty much just internal political showmanship in the usual military contracts. Making a drone that uses an infantry arm can be proposed as a weapon system that can be maintained by existing armorers and tools, repaired and replaced with existing infrastructure, and already has known effectiveness on targets. All of which is completely irrelevant to its combat effectiveness, but sounds great to a budget board when you're looking for more cash to make something less shit, or just grift.

Same deal with Half the stuff the US military trials.
 
Its pretty much just internal political showmanship in the usual military contracts. Making a drone that uses an infantry arm can be proposed as a weapon system that can be maintained by existing armorers and tools, repaired and replaced with existing infrastructure, and already has known effectiveness on targets. All of which is completely irrelevant to its combat effectiveness, but sounds great to a budget board when you're looking for more cash to make something less shit, or just grift.

Same deal with Half the stuff the US military trials.
Yeah, but you'd literally be better off just having it with a little hopper full of grenades instead of a rifle. Plus that mounting looks like a prototype, and not a particularly solid option.

Edit: if you're going to go for a gun that's already in use, you'd probably be better off with a belt fed MG over just a rifle, then you could actually lay down some fire. A 30 round magazine drains fast, I think an M4 will do it in around 4 seconds on full auto.
 
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