War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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[Elämällä on väliä]

Why is this at all relevant to the thread?

Ukraine perhaps is using a time machine according to them, right?

 

[Slap47]

Are you still under the impression that 2014 was some grassroots movement? You still don't realize the CIA doesn't want what's best for Ukraine, it simply wants to spread US imperialism and it is more than happy to throw Ukrainian bodies to the bears if it opens up a few more area to our control.

"Gee guys, I wonder why Russia doesn't want the US military on their border, the US military is normally very trustworthy and the US intelligence apparatus never foments revolution in countries for $$$. We can trust them guys, right? Guys?"

Meanwhile Russia is supposed to pretend that this isn't what imperialist expansion looks like? This is the US military gobbling up more and more territory, call it what it is. Of course they see it as a threat, why wouldn't they?

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Countries democratically voting to join an alliance to prevent being invaded is expansionism? Seems like joining that alliance was a good call in hindsight regardless.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

>Russian victory weakens it

Russians are just as much pedos as the western globohomos are, if not more.
Public speech about morality and shit mean nothing if nobody does anything about human trafficking.
It'd be the same as saying that China is anti prostitution because it's illegal there, all the while everyone knows that you can get whores in almost every small town in China. Just look for buildings with the words bath house or massage on them.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Look, Russians are publishing Die Endlösung der Ukrainefrage.

https://archive.ph/kRSt3

What Russia should do about Ukraine

Back in April last year we wrote about the inevitability of the denazification of Ukraine. We do not need a Nazi, Banderite Ukraine, an enemy of Russia and an instrument of the West to destroy Russia. Today the issue of denazification has moved to the practical plane.
Denazification is necessary when a significant part of the people - most likely its majority - is mastered and dragged by the Nazi regime into its politics. That is when the hypothesis "the people are good - the government is bad" does not work. Recognition of this fact is the basis of the policy of denazification, of all its activities, and the fact itself constitutes its subject matter.
Ukraine is in just such a situation. The fact that Ukrainian voters voted for "Poroshenko's peace" and "Zelensky's peace" should not be misleading - Ukrainians were quite happy with the shortest route to peace through blitzkrieg, which the last two Ukrainian presidents transparently hinted at when they were elected. It was precisely this method of "pacification" of internal anti-fascists - through total terror - that was used in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol and other Russian cities. And it suited the Ukrainian average citizen quite well. Denazification is a set of measures towards the Nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be directly punished as war criminals.

Nazis who have taken up arms must be destroyed as much as possible on the battlefield. No significant distinction should be made between the AFU and the so-called National Security Forces, as well as the territorial defence militias that have joined these two types of military formations. All of them are equally engaged in outrageous cruelty against civilians, equally guilty of the genocide of the Russian people and of not observing the laws and customs of war. War criminals and active Nazis must be punished approximately and exemplarily. A total lustration must be carried out. Any organisations that have linked themselves with the practice of Nazism must be eliminated and banned. However, in addition to the top brass, a significant portion of the masses of the people who are passive Nazis, collaborators of Nazism, are also guilty. They supported and indulged the Nazi government. Just punishment for this section of the population is possible only as bearing the inevitable burdens of a just war against the Nazi system, waged as gently and discreetly as possible against civilians. The further denazification of this mass of the population consists of re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and harsh censorship: not only in the political sphere but necessarily also in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that the profound mass Nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, consolidated by the promise of dividends from the Nazi regime's victory over Russia, Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, and the eight-year war with the rebel Ukrainian Nazi people of Donbass.
Denazification can only be carried out by the victor, which presupposes (1) his unconditional control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, the denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be challenged by the guilty party undergoing denazification. Russia's recognition of the need for denazification of Ukraine means the recognition that the Crimean scenario is impossible for Ukraine as a whole. However, this scenario was also impossible in 2014 in the rebellious Donbass. Only eight years of resistance to Nazi violence and terror led to internal cohesion and a consciously unequivocal mass refusal to preserve any unity and connection to Ukraine, which defined itself as a Nazi society.
The time frame for denazification can in no way be less than one generation who must be born, grow and mature under the conditions of denazification. The Nazification of Ukraine has lasted for over 30 years - starting at least in 1989 when Ukrainian nationalism gained legal and legitimate forms of political expression and led the movement for "independence" towards Nazism.

The peculiarity of modern Nazified Ukraine is its amorphous and ambivalent nature, which allows Nazism to be disguised as aspirations for "independence" and a "European" (Western, pro-American) path of "development" (in reality, degradation). (in reality - to degradation), to claim that "there is no Nazism in Ukraine, only private sporadic excesses". There is no main Nazi party, no Führer, no full-fledged racial laws (only a stripped-down version in the form of repression of the Russian language). As a consequence, there is no opposition and no resistance to the regime.

However, all of the above does not make Ukrainian Nazism a "light version" of the German Nazism of the first half of the twentieth century. On the contrary - as Ukrainian Nazism is free from such "genre" (political-technological in essence) frameworks and restrictions, it unfolds freely as the fundamental basis of all Nazism - as European and, in the most developed form, American racism. Therefore, denazification cannot be carried out in a compromise, based on a formula such as "NATO - no, EU - yes". The collective West itself is the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism, while the Western Bandera cadres and their "historical memory" are only one of the tools of the Nazification of Ukraine. Ukronazism is no less of a threat to peace and Russia than German Nazism of Hitler's modification.
The name "Ukraine" cannot apparently be retained as the title of any fully denazified state formation on territory freed from the Nazi regime. The People's Republics newly established in Nazi-liberated territory must and will grow out of the practice of economic self-government and social welfare, the reconstruction and modernisation of the population's life-support systems.
Their political aspirations cannot in fact be neutral - the redemption of guilt towards Russia for treating it as an enemy can only be realised in reliance on Russia in the processes of reconstruction, regeneration and development. No "Marshall Plan" for these territories should be allowed. There can be no "neutrality" in the ideological and practical sense compatible with denazification. The cadres and organisations that are instruments of denazification in the new denazified republics cannot but rely on the direct power and organisational support of Russia.

Denazification will inevitably be de-Ukrainianisation - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of the self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Malorossia and Novorossia, which was started by the Soviet authorities. As a tool of the communist superpower, artificial ethnocentrism did not remain orphaned after the fall of communism. In this service capacity, it was taken over by another superpower (power over states) - the superpower of the West. It needs to be returned to its natural boundaries and stripped of its political functionality.
Unlike, say, Georgia and the Baltic countries, Ukraine, as history has shown, is impossible as a nation state, and attempts to "build" such a state inevitably lead to Nazism. Ukrainianism is an artificial anti-Russian construction with no civilizational content of its own, a subordinated element of a foreign and alien civilization. Debanderization in itself will not be enough for denazification - the Banderite element is only a performer and a screen, a disguise for the European project of Nazi Ukraine, so the denazification of Ukraine is also its inevitable de-Europeanization.
The Banderovian top brass must be eliminated, it is impossible to re-educate them. The social "swamp" that actively and passively supported it through action and inaction must survive the hardships of the war and assimilate the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for its guilt. Those who did not support the Nazi regime, who suffered from it and the war it unleashed in Donbass, must be consolidated and organised, must become the backbone of the new government, its vertical and horizontal. Historical experience shows that wartime tragedies and dramas benefit peoples who have been seduced and carried away by the role of Russia's enemy.

Denazification as the aim of the special military operation itself is understood to be a military victory over the Kiev regime, the liberation of territories from armed supporters of Nazification, the elimination of intransigent Nazis, the capture of war criminals, and the creation of the systemic conditions for subsequent peacetime denazification.
The latter, in turn, should begin with the organisation of local self-government, police and defence bodies cleansed of Nazi elements, launching on their basis the founding processes of the new republican statehood, integrating this statehood in close cooperation with the Russian denazification agency (newly created or remade, say, from Rossotrudnichestvo), with the adoption under Russian control of a republican regulatory framework (legislation) for denazification, setting the borders and framework directly Russia should act as a custodian of the Nuremberg process in this respect.

All of the above means that in order to achieve the goals of denazification, it is necessary for the population to support Russia after it has been freed from the terror, violence and ideological pressure of the Kiev regime, after it has been removed from its informational isolation. Of course, it will take some time for people to recover from the shock of military action and to become convinced of Russia's long-term intentions - that "they will not be abandoned". It is impossible to foresee in advance in which territories this mass of the population will constitute a critically needed majority. "The Catholic province" (Western Ukraine, comprising five regions) is unlikely to be part of the pro-Russian territories. The line of exclusion, however, will be found by experience. A hostile to Russia, but forcibly neutral and demilitarised Ukraine, with formally banned Nazism, will remain behind it. Russia-haters will go there. A guarantee that this residual Ukraine will remain neutral should be the threat of an immediate continuation of the military operation if the listed requirements are not met. This would probably require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the alienation line and up to the Russian border would be the territory of potential integration into Russian civilisation, anti-fascist in its inner nature.
Ukraine's denazification operation, which began with a military phase, will follow in peacetime the same logic of stages as a military operation. At each of them, irreversible changes will have to be achieved, which will be the results of the corresponding stage. The necessary initial steps of denazification can be defined as follows:
-The elimination of armed Nazi formations (by which we mean any armed formations of Ukraine, including the AFU), as well as the military, informational, and educational infrastructure that ensures their activity;
-The formation of people's self-government and police (defence and law and order) in the liberated territories, protecting the population from the terror of underground Nazi groups;
-installation of the Russian information space;
-Removal of educational materials and prohibition of educational programmes at all levels that contain Nazi ideological attitudes;
-massive investigations into personal responsibility for war crimes, crimes against humanity, dissemination of Nazi ideology and support for the Nazi regime
-The listing, disclosure of the names of collaborators of the Nazi regime and their forced labour to rebuild the destroyed infrastructure as punishment for their Nazi activities (from among those who will not be subject to the death penalty or imprisonment);
-Adoption at the local level, under Russian curatorship, of primary denazification regulations "from below", banning all types and forms of revival of Nazi ideology;
-Establishing memorials, commemorative signs, monuments to the victims of Ukrainian Nazism, commemorating the heroes of the struggle against it;
The inclusion of a set of anti-fascist and denazification norms in the constitutions of the new People's Republics;
-Creation of permanent denazification bodies for a period of 25 years.
Russia will have no allies in the denazification of Ukraine. As this is a purely Russian affair. And also because not just the Bandera version of Nazi Ukraine will be subject to eradication, but also and above all Western totalitarianism, imposed programs of civilizational degradation and collapse, mechanisms of subordination to the superpower of the West and the USA.

In order to implement the plan of denazification of Ukraine, Russia itself will have to finally give up its pro-European and pro-Western illusions, to realize itself as the last instance of protection and preservation of those values of historical Europe (Old World), which deserve it and which the West ultimately abandoned, having lost in the struggle for itself. This struggle continued throughout the twentieth century and manifested itself in the World War and the Russian Revolution, inextricably linked to each other.
Russia did all it could to save the West in the twentieth century. It realised the main Western project, the alternative to capitalism which defeated the nation-states - the socialist, red project. It crushed German Nazism, the monstrous spawn of the crisis of Western civilisation. The last act of Russian altruism was Russia's outstretched hand of friendship, for which Russia received a monstrous blow in the 1990s.

Everything Russia has done for the West, it has done at its own expense, by making the greatest sacrifices. The West eventually rejected all these sacrifices, devalued Russia's contribution to resolving the Western crisis, and decided to take revenge on Russia for the help it unselfishly provided. From here on, Russia will go its own way, without worrying about the fate of the West, building on another part of its legacy: leadership in the global decolonisation process.
As part of this process, Russia has high potential for partnership and alliance with countries that the West has oppressed for centuries and have no intention of putting its yoke back on. Without Russian sacrifice and struggle, these countries would not have been liberated. The denazification of Ukraine is at the same time its decolonisation, something the Ukrainian population will have to realise as it begins to free itself from the ghosts, temptations and dependencies of the so-called European choice.

 

[I am the Muffin Maker]

They're going to liquidate their POWs aren't they?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Kiev literally a day before Russia started their (((defensive invasion)))

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

@Vince McMahon WTF is this schizo drivel? Reads like unbreaded manifesto.

 

[Vince McMahon]

@Vince McMahon WTF is this schizo drivel? Reads like unbreaded manifesto.

You can follow the link and see where it was taken from.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

You can follow the link and see where it was taken from.

It's a rhetorical question, of course, I know that these people are out of their fucking mind.
Though that's letting them off easy, they know what they're doing, unlike people who's actually insane. This is all on purpose, which only makes it worse.

 

[Vince McMahon]

It's a rhetorical question, of course, I know that these people are out of their fucking mind.
Though that's letting them off easy, they know what they're doing, unlike people who's actually insane. This is all on purpose, which only makes it worse.

A Russian media outlet is tiptoeing around calling for extermination of Ukrainians. They are not insane. They are bloodthirsty snow niggers. Hopefully, whatever fate befalls them, should befall their simps and cockholsters.

 

[nosemouth]

I fail to see how russian soldiers raping Ukrainian women in front of their children is conducive to this goal.
You people are fucking deranged. You're vicariously living out your insane fantasies through Putin and his goblin army like some goddamn cucks.

Your emotional outbursts aside, what Russia does has zero effect on me, while Zelensky's handlers are the same assholes responsible for the slow and steady erosion of American liberty and culture over the last twenty years.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Your emotional outbursts aside, what Russia does has zero effect on me, while Zelensky's handlers are the same assholes responsible for the slow and steady erosion of American liberty and culture over the last twenty years.

The fact that you can just shove all these atrocities aside to "stick it to the globohomo" says volumes.
You're okay with all this suffering, Ukrainian people aspiring to freedom being denied sovereignty and prosperity by the rotting quasi-commie state whose predecessors terrorized them for centuries, because it also somehow hurts your perceived enemies?

All because you're lacking the balls to face them yourself?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Ukraine perhaps is using a time machine according to them, right?

How is some person saying some stupid things you don't like about 1956 relevant in a thread about a NEWS megathread about the current invasion?

 

[No. 7 cat]

The Ukrainian Armed forces say they have taken 11 towns in the Kherson region (another post below it notes Denys Prokopenko, the commander of the Azov Regiment has expressed pessimism about the talks outcome):

The Ukrainian Armed Forces have regained control of 11 settlements in the Kherson region.
According to Ukrinform, the Grouping of Troops South said this in a statement posted on Facebook.
"Due to the efforts of our defenders from the 60th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade, which is part of the Grouping of Troops South, the following settlements in the Kherson region have been liberated: Novovorontsovka, Mala Shesternia, Novohryhorivka, Topolyne, Kniazivka, Krasnivka, Svobodne, Kamianka, Pryhiria, Kochubeivka, Orlove," the statement said.
Thanks to the military of the 60th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade, the local population today can receive humanitarian aid – medicines and food. In turn, the inhabitants of the liberated territories support and encourage Ukrainian defenders.
"Conducting operations to liberate these settlements, a unit of the 60th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade captured enemy equipment: T-64 tanks (with full ammunition), BMP-2, BMD-2, ZU-2M based on MT-LB," the statement said.

source

If this is definite is suggests that the retreat or retrenchment of Russian forces towards the south, perhaps in hope of a clear victory for Victory Day on 9th May, is not working for them yet.

 

[nosemouth]

The fact that you can just shove all these atrocities aside to "stick it to the globohomo" says volumes.

If you're stupid enough to fall for an obvious false-flag, don't blame me.

You're okay with all this suffering, Ukrainian people aspiring to freedom being denied sovereignty and prosperity by the rotting quasi-commie state whose predecessors terrorized them for centuries, because it also somehow hurts your perceived enemies?

All because you're lacking the balls to face them yourself?

One country invading another has nothing to do with me, and shouldn't have anything to do with my country, but somehow the same assholes who ruined my country have poked their fat asses into the conflict, so of course I'm very eager to see them defeated.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

Russians now calling for what can only be recognised as a genocide. I'm no war hawk, but at what point does NATO need to step in - there's enough evidence to show what this is, and that the Russians would crumple if NATO airpower was unleashed on them. I genuinely think, Western powers should sink that blacksea fleet and then smash up forward logistical bases and airbases with cruise missiles.

Then tell the Russians to gtfo, or we'll do it again. Escalate to de-escalate as the Russians call it - and they know our involvement would lead to a catastrophic defeat. Sitting idly by like this is going to be criticised for years to come, how is this just being allowed to happen?

The fact that you can just shove all these atrocities aside to "stick it to the globohomo" says volumes.
You're okay with all this suffering, Ukrainian people aspiring to freedom being denied sovereignty and prosperity by the rotting quasi-commie state whose predecessors terrorized them for centuries, because it also somehow hurts your perceived enemies?

All because you're lacking the balls to face them yourself?

People who try and equate a struggle for national - and now it seems ethnic - survival with the nonsensical muh sjw drivel you get in the West have worms for brains.

 

[дядя Боря]

If you're stupid enough to fall for an obvious false-flag, don't blame me.

Jesus Christ dude, have you seen the photos of tied up dead kids in the basement?

The pictures published so far are only weak sauce beginning, in the coming days we are going to see some pretty fucked up shit.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

If you're stupid enough to fall for an obvious false-flag, don't blame me.



One country invading another has nothing to do with me, and shouldn't have anything to do with my country, but somehow the same assholes who ruined my country have poked their fat asses into the conflict, so of course I'm very eager to see them defeated.

So you find it easier to believe that Ukrainians would do this to their own people, than Russians just being themselves? You really don't know shit about them, it seems.

Here's a funny anecdote. I had a friend who served in VDV, he told me how they once caught two of their mates fucking in the shower - that's your based trad-christian Russia, it's not immune to gay, and it's not work of globohomo. It's just who they are.
The sheer volume of sexual violence in Russian army should give you some idea of what's actually going on - you can find reported numbers, but that's a minority of cases, most go unreported, with victims killing themselves or "killing themselves", because "they were homesick". It's only a tip of the iceberg.
If Russian soldiers are willing to rape each other, what do you think they'll do to defenseless people on the occupied territory that they don't even see as people?

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

How is some person saying some stupid things you don't like about 1956 relevant in a thread about a NEWS megathread about the current invasion?

That person is a member of Hungarian rulling party, and Hungary is actively messing around war on the russian side. Maybye that.

If you're stupid enough to fall for an obvious false-flag, don't blame me.

How Ukraine can make a false-flag by massmurder in town under control of Russia?

Graves was digged up under russia occupation - how putinheads will explain that?

 

[Oats12345]

Well I see Putin is sending more troops to die. Something tells me they are just as untrained as the last.