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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Makes me laugh, the vast majority of people kvetching about Azov Battalion being Nazis are people who are the sort of fringe rightoid weirdos who post shit about Hitler under 8 layers of irony.
Seriously the whole thing about Zelensky being a Nazi so this forth innocent Ukrainians deserve their homes destroy will never stop sounding insane to me.
Putin bros really don't relaize how retarded they sound.
 
Source for that transfer thing? its the first time I heard about that?
The overall source for it is John Lehman, the Secretary of the Navy under Reagan. But it's well confirmed and documented. I believe the never executed Bill of Sale is somewhere in the Reagan Presidential library.

The Falkland's was a weird war politically for the US and British relations. Reagan desired to maintain a strict appearance of Neutrality and not sending overt US Military forces to go mess around in South America at Britains behest. (Wouldn't want to mess with all the Covert shit now would we?). By the same token Thatcher and Britain could not be seen unable to fight their own wars without running to Big Daddy America. There was also some weird intelligence service squabbling where the NSA pissed off everyone.

The "Sell Britain Harrier Carriers for $1 if and only if actually needed" was viewed as sufficient to preserve the illusion of American Neutrality regarding Argentina. (Pay no mind to the AWACs planes circling out over the ocean, or the curiously cruising US Navy boats with all the antenae.)
 
I think it's fair to say that the Russians have well and truly failed in their initial war aims and at this point Vlad is just trying to secure the best peace he possibly can so he can save face to the Russian people before his economy collapses. This upcoming battle for Donbass is going to be the most consequential point of the war. The pictures we're going to see this month are going to be pure nightmare fuel

I'm happy regime change is seemingly off the table but I'm still nervous about them capturing a land bridge to Crimea.
Russia deserves nothing after this inept genocidal display
 
I think it's fair to say that the Russians have well and truly failed in their initial war aims and at this point Vlad is just trying to secure the best peace he possibly can so he can save face to the Russian people before his economy collapses. This upcoming battle for Donbass is going to be the most consequential point of the war. The pictures we're going to see this month are going to be pure nightmare fuel

I'm happy regime change is seemingly off the table but I'm still nervous about them capturing a land bridge to Crimea.
Russia deserves nothing after this inept genocidal display
I pray the Ukrainians come out victorious in this upcoming battle. They deserve it especially after they proved so many people including myself wrong about them. As I originally thought they would fall in two days. They proved me wrong.
 
Seriously the whole thing about Zelensky being a Nazi so this forth innocent Ukrainians deserve their homes destroy will never stop sounding insane to me.
Putin bros really don't relaize how retarded they sound.
>civilians aren't dying because Russia is notoriously cautious about civilian casualties, unlike globohomo America
>civilians are dying but that just happens in war, no one is to blame except the Ukrainians for not instantly surrendering
>civilians are dying but what about America?
>civilians are dying but that's because the Ukrainians are using them as human shields
>civilians are being purposely killed but what about the Ghost of Kiev? Western media lies
>civilians are being purposely killed but the nazi Ukrainians are doing it as a false flag

YOU ARE HERE
>civilians are being purposely killed and that's a good thing because they're all nazis and denazification will require literal genocide
 
>civilians aren't dying because Russia is notoriously cautious about civilian casualties, unlike globohomo America
>civilians are dying but that just happens in war, no one is to blame except the Ukrainians for not instantly surrendering
>civilians are dying but what about America?
>civilians are dying but that's because the Ukrainians are using them as human shields
>civilians are being purposely killed but what about the Ghost of Kiev? Western media lies
>civilians are being purposely killed but the nazi Ukrainians are doing it as a false flag

YOU ARE HERE
>civilians are being purposely killed and that's a good thing because they're all nazis and denazification will require literal genocide
Seriously seeing Putin simps change their views this much really tells me alot about then.

They became the very thing the left wrongfullly accused them of being. Ironic
 
Seriously seeing Putin simps change their views this much really tells me alot about then.

They became the very thing the left wrongfullly accused them of being. Ironic
I hate to break it to you but they were always this way. There’s an uncomfortable amount of the left and right like these wastes of DNA.
 
And this isn't the first time the US and UK swapped ships like this. There is the mysterious USS Robin. In late '42 early '43 when the Enterprise was damaged leaving just Saratoga in the Pacific, HMS Indefatigable became USS Robin.
It was HMS Victorious who was USS Robin not HMS Indefatigable as she was still in construction and shakedown at the time. Armoredcarrier.com haves the indepth history of USS Robin. Link
 
It’s still rather awkward how the GRAMMYs invited Zelensky to talk about why Americans should support Ukraine in the war against Russia, and yet no one really still watched the show, if you looked at their ratings.
Nobody watches the Grammy Awards anymore really. At least he didn’t hold a talk about it in Minecraft like Macron.
 
>civilians aren't dying because Russia is notoriously cautious about civilian casualties, unlike globohomo America
>civilians are dying but that just happens in war, no one is to blame except the Ukrainians for not instantly surrendering
>civilians are dying but what about America?
>civilians are dying but that's because the Ukrainians are using them as human shields
>civilians are being purposely killed but what about the Ghost of Kiev? Western media lies
>civilians are being purposely killed but the nazi Ukrainians are doing it as a false flag

YOU ARE HERE
>civilians are being purposely killed and that's a good thing because they're all nazis and denazification will require literal genocide

we are on the last point, as McMahon posted earlier today, Russian newspapers already rant about completely erasing national identity anyone who is against restoring old times.

FYI, four years ago, Putin signed an order re-creating political officers in RF armed forces. In the days of the Soviet Union they were responsible about moral and political agenda of the communist party within the ranks. I have no idea what kind of bullshit they brainwash now.
 
I hate to break it to you but they were always this way. There’s an uncomfortable amount of the left and right like these wastes of DNA.
I guess your right saddly. These retards really only seem to care about screaming "Base" than anything else mainly because they think Putin is a alley to them aginst their "Globalhomo threat" not relaizing Putin would probably have them executed if they looked at him funny or that their "based Russia military" would probably ass rape them.
It’s still rather awkward how the GRAMMYs invited Zelensky to talk about why Americans should support Ukraine in the war against Russia, and yet no one really still watched the show, if you looked at their ratings.
In all Fairness maybe Zelensky didn't know that no watches the Grammys anymore.
 
I pray the Ukrainians come out victorious in this upcoming battle. They deserve it especially after they proved so many people including myself wrong about them. As I originally thought they would fall in two days. They proved me wrong.
That's the part that scares me. I can honestly see it going either way

From what I've read the Russian units retreating from Kiev are dogshit and are barely at half strength but they still have a considerable numbers advantage and the thought that they're all going to be advancing on a single unified front isn't exactly giving me optimism

That being said the Ukrainians are insanely motivated and western support continues to pour into their country while Russia gets weaker and weaker by the day

Whatever happens I'm glad Russia is bleeding for this shit. It's crazy to think a month ago we all thought this would develop into some crazy Afghanistan-like insurgency rather than a full on war with skirmishes on both sides
 
*edit - I've been informed these are Ukrainians doing the massacre-ing, I don't speak Slav so I dunno...
Can you answer HOW Ukraine can dig a grave in town overruned by Russians, or you just prefer to shit this thread with putinoind propaganda?

And this isn't the first time the US and UK swapped ships like this. There is the mysterious USS Robin. In late '42 early '43 when the Enterprise was damaged leaving just Saratoga in the Pacific, HMS Indefatigable became USS Robin.
WW2 was full of ships changing their countries between allies in all weird ways.

- HMS Royal Sovereign becoming Arkhangelsk,
- bunch of smaller ships from Royal Navy and french navy going to small, "foreign" navies of occupied allies,
- Liberty Ships plot,
- "destroyers for bases" deal,

and so one. Nothing special.

Azov Battalion, the nearest to actual Nazis
Again...

Azov has nothing to do with naaazi. Their leader even was making a official anti-nazi declarations (despite the shit tier newspapers writing something else) and their prominent member Vlad Kowaltchuk is one of very few Ukrainians who admited and regretted actual shameful nazi era in ukrainian history (massacres on Jews and Poles in western Ukraine under nazi occupation in 1941-1945).

If Azov are nazies, that means everyone who isn't a fuckin putinhead is a nazi. I'm not sure, if I care about who is, and who isn't a nazi according to homosexual childrapers from Russia and drug addicted morons like putinheads.

Tittle it like "heroic ukrainians execute fucking vatniks" then record all the soycucks fapping to it

This war is on the phase, where we all know that atrocities are conducted by both sides, but also where we see traitors, members of enemy forces and so one as nothing more that a target.

Like Dachau reprisals - after liberating KL Dachau US forces killed in a handbook case of war crime, with cold blood on the very last moments of war in Europe (last days of arpli '45) bunch of unarmed SS members. with POW status. Everyone agrees that was a war crime, but also everyone is understanding that GI's actions was justifed.
 
That's the part that scares me. I can honestly see it going either way

From what I've read the Russian units retreating from Kiev are dogshit and are barely at half strength but they still have a considerable numbers advantage and the thought that they're all going to be advancing on a single unified front isn't exactly giving me optimism

That being said the Ukrainians are insanely motivated and western support continues to pour into their country while Russia gets weaker and weaker by the day

Whatever happens I'm glad Russia is bleeding for this shit. It's crazy to think a month ago we all thought this would develop into some crazy Afghanistan-like insurgency rather than a full on war with skirmishes on both sides
I hear yeah. I can see it going either way too. All we can do is wait and see and hope for a good outcome for Ukraine.
 
Can you answer HOW Ukraine can dig a grave in town overruned by Russians, or you just prefer to shit this thread with putinoind propaganda?

Wait, I'm unclear. Are you saying this video:


...isn't Russians being massacred on the ground by Ukrainians? Like I said, I don't speak Slav. The guy asked for video of the massacres and I'm trying to help. You mention it's propaganda so I dunno.
 
Like Dachau reprisals - after liberating KL Dachau US forces killed in a handbook case of war crime, with cold blood on the very last moments of war in Europe (last days of arpli '45) bunch of unarmed SS members. with POW status. Everyone agrees that was a war crime, but also everyone is understanding that GI's actions was justifed.
It’s very well understood that the execution of those who participated in massacres or crimes against humanity done by troops in the field are not going to be prosecuted. Which is what happened to the VDV around Bucha after they fled. They left their vehicles there too. Every single one of the units that participated in the atrocities around those areas is now marked for death.
 
we are on the last point, as McMahon posted earlier today, Russian newspapers already rant about completely erasing national identity anyone who is against restoring old times.

FYI, four years ago, Putin signed an order re-creating political officers in RF armed forces. In the days of the Soviet Union they were responsible about moral and political agenda of the communist party within the ranks. I have no idea what kind of bullshit they brainwash now.
I know the vatniks are claiming it, I just want to see if their useful idiots 'just asking questions' eventually drop the mask and start championing denazification as defined by Putin as the ultimate virtue.
 
It’s very well understood that the execution of those who participated in massacres or crimes against humanity done by troops in the field are not going to be prosecuted. Which is what happened to the VDV around Bucha after they fled. They left their vehicles there too. Every single one of the units that participated in the atrocities around those areas is now marked for death.
When you rape and kill childern and women and overall just killing unarm civilians. You pretty much are asking to be killed without a trial or being captured.
 
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