Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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If you throw suicide-inducing dysphoria out the window as unimportant (because you didnt experience it), then what exactly is "life saving" about the treatments you're demanding that the NHS magic out of thin air for you right this very second?
If I go into a bank and demand they give me money or I'll kill myself, or I go up to a stranger and demand he/she sleeps with me or I'll kill myself, does that mean they have an ethical obligation to give me what I want in order to save my life? No, it's just extortion.

I am not sure that “we cannot concede even slightly to these perfectly rational arguments because those are the arguments TERFs use” is the great long-term strategy these people think it is lol.

Basically they’re leaving the “good arguments” field wide open to the TERFs, and whenever someone trying to be on their side points out that they are in fact reasonable arguments, they go on the attack, insult them, and accuse them of being the enemy.

Great strategy for getting normies on board!
Classic extremist behaviour. Any argument which challenges your beliefs is just Satan whispering in your ear.

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so uh, what was all this noise for then? Were you just lying about it being a deadly condition or
Creepy and yet simultaneously completely ridiculous.

Serious Chris Chan-esque autistic rage energy in this vid. :mad:

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We had it settled a few pages back that
1 Chube = Chris Chan + David Cameron.
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Chubes brohabi getting his excuses in early
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(kid of out-of-sync, but just for archival purposes, a little flash of what the Tubescourse was, mere weeks before Muh Identity dropped; and I think we might have the last chronicled marker of him saying something non-derogatory about a woman!

ik Tube likes to think that he snuck his transition on everyone, and missed out his (worse) awkward phase, but lets not forget he actually looked like this at one point, and people were noticing.
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my god.

another one with some funny takes, just after Troon Launch, while i'm at it
 
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Olly the "woman" seems to hate women more than anything else.

"Alice" the "Muslim" seems to hate Muslims more than anything else.

It's not really a M-to-F trans thing to be as anti-woman as Olly is, and it's not an Islam-convert thing to be as anti-Islam as "Alice" is...

Well, I guess I'm glad all these white straight guys found each other for support, and transmogrified themselves into...a support group for narcissistic and fame-hungry born-rich white straight guys. (That's sarcasm.)

These are truly terrible people. These are cultural suicide bombers, disguising themselves as the group they are resentfully determined to punish and eliminate for the sin of...not appreciating their amazing elite white guy insights, enough, I think? Other people like them just join the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers or the UK's National Front or whatever, and get arrested for being simple-minded anti-democratic idiots...and that's WAY less cringe-worthy, to be honest? Like, how are these "leftist" rich white straight guy dolts pretending that their attempted demolition of "diversity" helps anyone except them (as always)?

DIVERSITY is good. FREE SPEECH is good. DEMOCRACY is good. That is Western civilization — it's not Olly and it's not Orban. It's the vastness of opinion and opportunity, the breadth of experience and education, and the discussions in between.

These assholes couldn't compete (well, they couldn't rise to the heights of Lords-over-Serfs that they felt entitled to, in any case), and out of rage and resentment used their privilege to invert all those good things into a travesty where they skinwalk and tear down those they hate the most, with the thinnest veneer of a parasocial-funding-forcefield to protect them.
 
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Olly the "woman" seems to hate women more than anything else.

"Alice" the "Muslim" seems to hate Muslims more than anything else.

It's not really a M-to-F trans thing to be as anti-woman as Olly is, and it's not an Islam-convert thing to be as anti-Islam as "Alice" is...

Well, I guess I'm glad all these white straight guys found each other for support, and transmogrified themselves into...a support group for narcissistic and fame-hungry born-rich white straight guys. (That's sarcasm.)

These are truly terrible people. These are cultural suicide bombers, disguising themselves as the group they are resentfully determined to punish and eliminate for the sin of...not appreciating their amazing elite white guy insights, enough, I think? Other people like them just join the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers or the UK's National Front or whatever, and get arrested for being simple-minded anti-democratic idiots...and that's WAY less cringe-worthy, to be honest? Like, how are these "leftist" rich white straight guy dolts pretending that their attempted demolition of "diversity" helps anyone except them (as always)?

DIVERSITY is good. FREE SPEECH is good. DEMOCRACY is good. That is Western civilization — it's not Olly and it's not Orban. It's the vastness of opinion and opportunity, the breadth of experience and education, and the discussions in between.

These assholes couldn't compete (well, they couldn't rise to the heights of Lords-over-Serfs that they felt entitled to, in any case), and out of rage and resentment used their privilege to invert all those good things into a travesty where they skinwalk and tear down those they hate the most, with the thinnest veneer of a parasocial-funding-forcefield to protect them.
Well yeah, but I also just think it gives them boners.
 
Chubes brohabi getting his excuses in early
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(kid of out-of-sync, but just for archival purposes, a little flash of what the Tubescourse was, mere weeks before Muh Identity dropped; and I think we might have the last chronicled marker of him saying something non-derogatory about a woman!

ik Tube likes to think that he snuck his transition on everyone, and missed out his (worse) awkward phase, but lets not forget he actually looked like this at one point, and people were noticing.
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my god.

another one with some funny takes, just after Troon Launch, while i'm at it

From the chan -
I was watching this man's YouTube videos, already disgusted by the smug condescending nature of his discourse and ways (but also by this whole side of posh-beaucoup-stylized YouTube videos, in which creators clearly try to outdo, out- "hot-take", out-"alt-chic" eachothers and themselves with every video piece they put out) until I stumbled upon a video thumbnail of his in the recommended section on the side of the screen. On this thumbnail, he is seen posturing up on a horse with a smirk (oh, this smirk) telling us : "Yup, I got a fucking horse for this". Only then the latent, built up discomfort boiled out of me and I sighed really heavily.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Yeah, I was sceptical about that claim.
It would certainly track seeing as there is pretty much no known cure for baldness.

I really hate how Joan sticks her nose in and goes on like an expert about the UK. She even like, says really specific local dialect bits for comic effect- I can only assume she’s mostly getting these from Tube on his podcast but she takes to it with a strange glee and naturalism.

Stfu crying about kier fucking starmer and start memorising the name of your own local corrupt politicians

Painting it like some terrrifying terf land on one hand but obsessively trying to reflect (the worst bits of lame parts of) it’s culture
 
Finasteride is not prescribable in NHS primary care for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia in men. It's prescribed by a doctor but has to be ordered privately. It's only available as an NHS prescription if it's being used to treat prostate enlargement.

NHS is super cagey when it comes to using medications off label. Spironolactone's intended use is for high blood pressure but US doctors often prescribe it for severe acne (troons also use it to lower testosterone). UK doctors will NOT prescribe it for acne even though it has been shown to be an effective treatment.

Often I will be browsing womens health subs and users will mention what they have been prescribed and a lot of those options are just not available to UK patients for the same ailments even though the medicine is available. Contrary to Ollys NHS worldview women dont get everything they desire even though it could actually boost their quality of life. Furthermore, to hear him crusade for trans "healthcare" and then throw up a tweet saying "haha dysphoria who, i feel happy :)" JFC dude pick a lane.
 
NHS is super cagey when it comes to using medications off label. Spironolactone's intended use is for high blood pressure but US doctors often prescribe it for severe acne (troons also use it to lower testosterone). UK doctors will NOT prescribe it for acne even though it has been shown to be an effective treatment.

Often I will be browsing womens health subs and users will mention what they have been prescribed and a lot of those options are just not available to UK patients for the same ailments even though the medicine is available. Contrary to Ollys NHS worldview women dont get everything they desire even though it could actually boost their quality of life. Furthermore, to hear him crusade for trans "healthcare" and then throw up a tweet saying "haha dysphoria who, i feel happy :)" JFC dude pick a lane.
Ahh is spiro the acne drug that made loads of kids mental ? Or soemthing else
 
Some light reading as we await content to sustain us - a character with the same personality construct as our precious chube:


(And those analogous to kiwis obsessively researching and documenting what a hack he is:

“ This was the inverse of fandom: a passionate connection driven by disappointment rather than by admiration.”

“Bourgoin’s professional résumé was as dubious as his personal history. By the collective’s reckoning, he had not interviewed seventy-seven serial killers but, rather, more likely only eight or nine. An interview with Charles Manson? Nobody in Manson’s camp had ever heard of it. In setting out his credentials, Bourgoin often claimed that the F.B.I. had invited him to complete two six-month training courses at Quantico with Douglas’s team of profilers. The 4ème Œil contacted Douglas, who, according to the group, replied, “Bourgoin is delusional and an imposter.””

“Bourgoin’s lies ran the spectrum from pointless little fictions to brazen fabulation. In some cases, he tried to make himself sound more important than he was—he really did give talks at the Centre National de Formation à la Police Judiciaire, even if he had nothing to do with creating the law-enforcement body’s profiling unit. He really did know the writer James Ellroy, but a picture of the two of them that he had tweeted wasn’t taken “on vacation”; it was from a crime-fiction and film festival.”

“Almost airily, he mentioned that he had been the victim of a “campaign of cyberbullying and hate on social media” and was being targeted by “bitter and jealous” individuals.”)
 
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NHS is super cagey when it comes to using medications off label. Spironolactone's intended use is for high blood pressure but US doctors often prescribe it for severe acne (troons also use it to lower testosterone). UK doctors will NOT prescribe it for acne even though it has been shown to be an effective treatment.
From personal experience: This is true except for psychiatric drugs, most of those are prescribed off label.
 
I think this was already posted, but I didn’t realize there was a video.


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The host is an annoying handmaiden. She tells him “you came out as an elegant, aspirational, woman. You’ve got the cheekbones, you’ve got it all!” Elsewhere she tells him “you’re a better woman than I am.” 🙄

Olly says he’s afraid to go to a spa in London because it “wouldn’t be safe.” Olly says Brian the stylist is the highest paid person on the set of PT. Which prob speaks more to how underpaid they all are.

I’ll edit this post with more if anything strikes me.

He talks about how casting directors might say he’s “too tall” for a given role. Lol. Sure, too tall. He says he auditions for cis and trans roles. He auditioned recently for a trans “sex worker” and he says he opted to play it “very high status, very glamorous” because that’s what spoke to him about the character. What a shock. At 53:40 he puts on a male voice with his put-on female voice, it’s pretty funny.

At 58:05 the host asks what has been your single best investment? Olly says “can I say my transition?” So it’s nice that he’s open about his grifting.

Earlier they were talking about actors having no money and having to work two jobs and the host said “except for the rich ones who have like multi-generational wealth.” Olly was just like “yeah.” Like he didn’t want to delve in to that lol. Nice shade, handmaiden.
 

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