Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Übertroon]

Are you including Afghans? I'm pretty sure they were people, too.

The jury is still out on that one

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

The West can do as we please fuck off with this China number 1 shit. I hope this shit turns into world war 3 so we can squash this bullshit nuke threat and put the communist fags in their place once and for all because shit is gonna go down at some point, whether its me, or my kids or my grandkids we are gonna wind up fighting these fucks.

If that's your view, maybe wait until the US gets better missile defense.

 

[Disheveled Human]

If that's your view, maybe wait until the US gets better missile defense.

What if they already got it? I don't imagine they would advertise it to the public and post it on google.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

Welcome to life. Now apply that same outrage to Russia sending in troops to die and be killed invading Ukraine and maybe you can act like you are actually outraged at wasted lives. Oh but its only ok when the side you like does it then its "just".

American incompetence is not "life".

 

[LurkTrawl]

Welcome to life. Now apply that same outrage to Russia sending in troops to die and be killed invading Ukraine and maybe you can act like you are actually outraged at wasted lives. Oh but its only ok when the side you like does it then its "just".

If you were actually outraged at wasted lives, you wouldn't act as if though I'm supposed to be equally outraged at what you said and the invasion of Ukraine. I'm not the one who's saying they're going by that standard here - on the contrary, I openly stated I don't give a shit about the Ukrainian-Russian conflict precisely because it doesn't involve the U.S. You on the other hand are talking about wasted lives in a foreign country, shedding crocodile tears one minute then the next callously stating that the losses in Afghanistan "weren't a waste" because the military industrial complex got some free testing data for their products.

Likewise, if your argument that a shithole capitalist economic situation + authoritarianism + less freedom = communism then you're admitting that you think the western powers instituting lockdown regulations and vaccine mandates were communist. Which, they weren't, but you're enough of an ass that you actually think nobody will notice the disingenuity of your arguments and how you're trying to use jingoism in an extremely hypocritical way to get a lazy "gotcha" on people with whom you generally dislike.

Or put another way, I'm surprised you have the same opinion Bush voters did about the Middle East, and about Russia. Really gets the noggin joggin that you'd openly agree with the same audience as QAnon.

 

[Disheveled Human]

American incompetence is not "life".

What is the number 1 military in the world? You do not get there without live battlefield training. 100 soldiers dead a year on average seems reasonable especially when compared to the projected losses of Russia.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

What if they already got it? I don't imagine they would advertise it to the public and post it on google.

We have one. It's openly advertised. It's also not designed for large scale attacks. Trust me if the US had a system that could 100% reliably take out all varieties of incoming nuclear attacks, the whole world would know, because it would be the most impressive technological achievement of the century, and we love to brag about that shit.

 

[Disheveled Human]

We have one. It's openly advertised. It's also not designed for large scale attacks. Trust me if the US had a system that could 100% reliably take out all varieties of incoming nuclear attacks, the whole world would know, because it would be the most impressive technological achievement of the century, and we love to brag about that shit.

Im just saying when it comes to defense systems why would you let people know you got it. Imagine telling a shooter you are wearing a bulletproof vest so you can tip him off to aim for your head.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

The government of Ukraine was responsible for its own airspace. The safety of national airspace for international civilian air traffic is one of those things legitimate sovereign states are expected to take responsibility for.

Tjibbe Joustra, Dutch Safety Board:



Nico Voorbach, former European Cockpit Association president:

Spoiler: Dutch Safety Board conclusions on airspace

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You guys like to say that Ukraine's failed state status is "Russian propaganda", but you can't have it both ways. Ukraine was responsible for the safety of those flights in its airspace. No one else. Airlines and other countries aren't supposed to assume they know better than Ukraine about what's going on in Ukraine. In fact, they assumed that the danger was minimal because the airspace was still open.

It could have been incompetence; greed for the fees of use of airspace; using civilian airliners as human shields for the Ukrainian military; a human sacrifice to blame on Russia, or all of the above.

Russia shoots down a civilian airliner: Still somehow Ukraine's fault.

I hope Russia keeps the Chechens on a leash and takes care of POWs. It would be a pretty big propaganda win at a very low cost. One side is arming civilians, torturing POWs, putting military positions in areas with civilians, killing civilians for trying to leave combat zones, and generally conducting a horrifyingly brutal war. It might not matter that much now, with anti-Russian furor at a crescendo, but in a few years Russia will be able to point back and say “told you so” because the Ukrainians seem desperate to prove them right.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

What is the number 1 military in the world? You do not get there without live battlefield training. 100 soldiers dead a year on average seems reasonable especially when compared to the projected losses of Russia.

Number one in size, skill, corruption or fuckups?

 

[Disheveled Human]

Number one in size, skill, corruption or fuckups?

Russia is Number 1 at losses. Not gonna lie I will give it to them its impressive.

 

[bread n circuses]

What is the number 1 military in the world? You do not get there without live battlefield training. 100 soldiers dead a year on average seems reasonable especially when compared to the projected losses of Russia.

100 soldiers is no price to pay at all for the pentagon fags. They’d sacrifice a million people to Moloch if they thought it would increase their funding.

Not sure why you’re cheerleading for them though.

 

[Disheveled Human]

100 soldiers is no price to pay at all for the pentagon fags. They’d sacrifice a million people to Moloch if they thought it would increase their funding.

Not sure why you’re cheerleading for them though.

When you compare 100 dead per year on average and then compare it to what a Russian campaign looks like why are you cheerleading Russia.

 

[DICTATOR]

Im just saying when it comes to defense systems why would you let people know you got it. Imagine telling a shooter you are wearing a bulletproof vest so you can tip him off to aim for your head.

Do you not see police etc openly wearing bulletproof vests?

 

[Disheveled Human]

Do you not see police etc openly wearing bulletproof vests?

Does the general public have nuclear warheads they launch at cops? Not to mention cops are expected to wear vests because once one person shoots at them the word is out. Nobody tried launching nukes yet outside of ww2.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

Russia is Number 1 at losses. Not gonna lie I will give it to them its impressive.

That does not affect American incompetence. Do you have anything except twitter tier one liners?

 

[LurkTrawl]

Not sure why you’re cheerleading for them though.

Same reason people who were cheerleaders for Russia as an ally in the U.S. during WW2 were suddenly frothing at the mouth for the decades to come even after the U.S.S.R. collapsed.

Same way that people can believe in QAnon, the Russiagate bullshit, the covid bullshit, or trust the media in general.

Because to people for whom hypocrisy is no object and cognitive dissonance can be adequately assuaged through the dopamine of a quick gotcha, no delusion, excuse, nor double-think is beyond their reach.

 

[bread n circuses]

When you compare 100 dead per year on average and then compare it to what a Russian campaign looks like why are you cheerleading Russia.

I’m not. I’d prefer it if Russia had chosen a more productive path towards maintaining its national security a long time ago.

I notice that you didn’t even attempt to answer the question. Sad but not unexpected.

 

[Ward]

Ye sure guys, engage with a shitposter that has been here since the first thread

 

[Disheveled Human]

That does not affect American incompetence. Do you have anything except twitter tier one liners?

Americans fucked up in military campaigns on several occasions and hopefully learned and got something out of them. Afghanistan was a great training ground for testing new weapons and equipment and many NATO countries got use out of it. What is your point, they could afford to have some incompetence. They are not considered top dog for a reason.