The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

whole lotta ass pain

Prove to me why a fetus is not human and save your tard rage for your pimp.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Prove to me why a fetus is not human and save your tard rage for your pimp.

If you take a fetus at 6 weeks and take it out of the woman, it will just be a dead clump of cells. It was never a human yet.

Now, move along little Taliban and let the people who don't want a religious theocracy talk

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

If you take a fetus at 6 weeks and take it out of the woman, it will just be a dead

Prove to me that it's not human, bitch.
If I leave a 1 year old in the woods for a week, it'll die too, don't change the fucking subject.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Prove to me that it's not human, bitch.
If I leave a 1 year old in the woods for a week, it'll die too, don't change the fucking subject.

The one year old can survive outside of its mothers womb. The fetus can't. I know your crippling autism has rotted your diseased brain to the point where you don't understand context, but context is important here.

Now, you go to the Mosque like a good little fundie and pray and let the non-fundies talk

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

The one year old can survive outside of its mothers womb. The fetus can't. I know your crippling autism has rotted your diseased brain to the point where you don't understand context, but context is important here.

Retard, what part of prove to me a fetus is not a human being do you not get? Take out a 6 month old out of a womb, I doubt it will survive for a long time either. Heck, leave a newborn out in the open and it'll die to.
Stop changing the fucking subject, you condescending lunatic faglord and answer the fucking question.

 

[Phantom Shitter]

Women are retarded and don't deserve any rights. Only men can be trusted to make choices, which is why God made us first.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Retard, what part of prove to me a fetus is not a human being do you not get? Take out a 6 month old out of a womb, I doubt it will survive for a long time either. Heck, leave a newborn out in the open and it'll die to.
Stop changing the fucking subject, you condescending lunatic faglord and answer the fucking question.

Correct, a 6 month old out of the womb won't survive, thus it's not human. A newborn outside of the womb will survive just fine.

Again, I realize you have autism and are legitimately slow in the mind and thus a simpleton, but you see that part where I said "womb"?

Now, again, go to your Madrassa and pray to Allah like a good little religious zealot

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Correct, a 6 month old out of the womb won't survive

Just to be clear, Triple H, who coincidentally has triple the amount of chromosomes than the average fetus, is gong to prove to me that his is not a human.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Just to be clear, Triple H, who coincidentally has triple the amount of chromosomes than the average fetus, is gong to prove to me that his is not a human.
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You are saying this is a human with more rights than an adult human woman:

You religious zealots are hilarious. And I point out your hypocrisy and it sends you into a frothing tardrage

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It can't be rescinded, once a human, always a human, but a fetus isn't a person yet.

See previous reply

Can I have a copy of your rulebook to see for myself?

They can turn into babies.

Lmao what a retard. sperm can't ever turn into babies, they don't have the capacity for that which is why you're supposed to pump them into a woman instead of a man's asshole, faggot.

It had FDA authorization.

That's a lie. None did. One merely had emergency authorization, that was it.

So you really aren't pro-life, you just love fetuses. Do you know why that is? See this quote:

― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
You puritanical evangelicals use the unborn to make you feel morally superior to those harlots who have sex. And it's easy to advocate for them because they ask nothing in return. But once they're born, you don't give a fuck about them because that'd require effort and sacrifice. Jesus would be pissed at you hypocrites. You'd better hope hell isn't real because you and your fellow evangelical puritans will be burning in it if it is

Quoting other faggot cucks means nothing. I told you before to stop lying, I've made zero arguments from religion so enough hiding behind insults and lies. You're the only one bringing religion into this, you faggots can't address arguments well, just screech "misogynist" and "evangelical". Pathetic.

Masks do indeed help. When did they admit they do virtually nothing? I know you have autism, which is why you can't fathom things that aren't 0% or 100%, but just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's 0%.

First of all retard, "virtually nothing" isn't 0%--"nothing" would be 0%. So, nice projection as always, the leftist specialty.

Prove your claim that masks are effective citing multiple current sources.

You really need to stop believing FB memes posted by your fellow boomers

I'm probably younger than you, how old are you? I've got you pegged as at least 40 but I suspect older, maybe even old enough to be classified as generation X. You're an old, out of touch NPC.

If the baby could've survived outside the womb then, it was a human. Otherwise, it's a fetus.

In that case, 21 weeks is the cutoff because babies can survive at that point, you support limiting abortion to that timeframe?

I am too lazy to go through your post history but I am sure you've posted at least something in support of BASED RUSSIA before the war started. You're a white nationalist retard from /pol/ so it's a pretty safe bet.

I consider Russia an threat, always have. Doesn't mean they don't do based shit like pass laws against LGBT propaganda. China is also a threat, they do based shit too.

I know you have autism, which is why you can't fathom things that aren't 0% or 100%, but just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's 0%.

Not yet it's not.

What species is it, then?

 

[snailslime]

Retard, what part of prove to me a fetus is not a human being do you not get? Take out a 6 month old out of a womb, I doubt it will survive for a long time either. Heck, leave a newborn out in the open and it'll die to.
Stop changing the fucking subject, you condescending lunatic faglord and answer the fucking question.

lol, you're the one changing the subject. a 6 month old is not the same as a 6 week old fetus.

Women are retarded and don't deserve any rights. Only men can be trusted to make choices, which is why God made us first.

no woman wants to touch you

 

[Phantom Shitter]

lol, you're the one changing the subject. a 6 month old is not the same as a 6 week old fetus.


no woman wants to touch you

show me your khazar milkers you fucking whore

 

[snailslime]

Can I have a copy of your rulebook to see for myself?

it's called basic biology

Lmao what a retard. sperm can't ever turn into babies, they don't have the capacity for that which is why you're supposed to pump them into a woman instead of a man's asshole, faggot.

what people do with their sperm should be of no concern to you, weirdo. why do you want to control people so badly

That's a lie. None did. One merely had emergency authorization, that was it.

oh, classy. an antivaxxer. imagine my shock

Quoting other faggot cucks means nothing. I told you before to stop lying, I've made zero arguments from religion so enough hiding behind insults and lies. You're the only one bringing religion into this, you faggots can't address arguments well, just screech "misogynist" and "evangelical". Pathetic.

you've made zero arguments, period. arguing with you is pointless since you refuse to use any type of logical thinking.

First of all retard, "virtually nothing" isn't 0%--"nothing" would be 0%. So, nice projection as always, the leftist specialty.

cry more, rightoid shitstain.

Prove your claim that masks are effective citing multiple current sources.

stop trying to derail the thread

I'm probably younger than you, how old are you? I've got you pegged as at least 40 but I suspect older, maybe even old enough to be classified as generation X. You're an old, out of touch NPC.

"vax bad!"
"women bad!"
"libruls bad!"
"NPC!"

you sound like the actual npc meme. & hulk is smarter than you either way, idk why you think being older is bad. older = more wisdom

In that case, 21 weeks is the cutoff because babies can survive at that point, you support limiting abortion to that timeframe?

i said i supported that, but there definitely should be wiggle room for exceptions.

I consider Russia an threat, always have. Doesn't mean they don't do based shit like pass laws against LGBT propaganda. China is also a threat, they do based shit too.

find something better to worry about than the gays and maybe focus on controlling your own life instead of other people. oh wait, you don't have a life

I know you have autism, which is why you can't fathom things that aren't 0% or 100%, but just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's 0%.

project much?

What species is it, then?

not alive

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

You are saying this is a human with more rights than an adult human woman:
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You religious zealots are hilarious. And I point out your hypocrisy and it sends you into a frothing tardrage

Welcome back from your vacation!

Quick question - do you also subscribe to the theory that a fetus becomes a person around when the vestiges of its nervous system combine into an entity with enough sense of self to feel pain (e.g. ~20 weeks at the earliest and ~30 weeks at the latest)? I find it interesting to see people's reasoning on what the terminus is between contraception (e.g. disposing of a clump of cells) and infanticide.

I'm pretty sure that everyone in this thread agrees that using a condom (e.g. disposing of the clump of sperm cells and egg cell separately) counts as contraception. It's also pretty easy to understand the humanist terminus of "it's human when there's human DNA" - which is why I'm asking you since your side seems to have a lot more nuance to your ethical framework.

 

[gang weeder]

Welcome back from your vacation!

Quick question - do you also subscribe to the theory that a fetus becomes a person around when the vestiges of its nervous system combine into an entity with enough sense of self to feel pain (e.g. ~20 weeks at the earliest and ~30 weeks at the latest)? I find it interesting to see people's reasoning on what the terminus is between contraception (e.g. disposing of a clump of cells) and infanticide.

I'm pretty sure that everyone in this thread agrees that using a condom (e.g. disposing of the clump of sperm cells and egg cell separately) counts as contraception. It's also pretty easy to understand the humanist terminus of "it's human when there's human DNA" - which is why I'm asking you since your side seems to have a lot more nuance to your ethical framework.

"Murder is okay sometimes depending on arbitrary criteria chosen out of political convenience" = Wow, so nuanced, such IQ, very smert!

Honk honk.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Welcome back from your vacation!

Quick question - do you also subscribe to the theory that a fetus becomes a person around when the vestiges of its nervous system combine into an entity with enough sense of self to feel pain (e.g. ~20 weeks at the earliest and ~30 weeks at the latest)? I find it interesting to see people's reasoning on what the terminus is between contraception (e.g. disposing of a clump of cells) and infanticide.

I'm pretty sure that everyone in this thread agrees that using a condom (e.g. disposing of the clump of sperm cells and egg cell separately) counts as contraception. It's also pretty easy to understand the humanist terminus of "it's human when there's human DNA" - which is why I'm asking you since your side seems to have a lot more nuance to your ethical framework.

imo when the fetus could survive outside of the womb without medical intervention it's a "Human".

I realize there are differing arguments on that, but I would rather error on the side of freedom. I know the A&H Republican boomers only want that when it applies to them and not harlots who have sex with guys who aren't them though.

Can I have a copy of your rulebook to see for myself?

I explain in the previous reply (see above)

Lmao what a retard. sperm can't ever turn into babies, they don't have the capacity for that which is why you're supposed to pump them into a woman instead of a man's asshole, faggot.

Lol calm down, fundie retard. Go to Afghanistan with your fellow Taliban where you can have the theocracy you want.

That's a lie. None did. One merely had emergency authorization, that was it.

Umm no. They had authorization. You are fine with removing women's body autonomy but not your own. Hypocritical piece of shit. Although since you're an evangelical puritan, that should be expected.

Quoting other faggot cucks means nothing. I told you before to stop lying, I've made zero arguments from religion so enough hiding behind insults and lies. You're the only one bringing religion into this, you faggots can't address arguments well, just screech "misogynist" and "evangelical". Pathetic.

Bullshit. You act like a puritanical boomer, only you advocate for fetuses but not actual living people. That's because you're a slacktivist, like all evangelicals. You're the equivalent of those tards who put a flag of Ukraine on their Facebook profile and think they're doing something. Just empty slacktivism by a religious zealot.

First of all retard, "virtually nothing" isn't 0%--"nothing" would be 0%. So, nice projection as always, the leftist specialty.

Masks are pretty effective. I know you think that going to your mega church and watching Tucker Carlson makes you know more than medical scientists, but it doesn't. Why should we believe you over doctors and scientists about a vaccine and masks?

Prove your claim that masks are effective citing multiple current sources.

Does Stanford count? I know you think you know more than them because you go to your mega church, but they know more about this than your autistic brain does:

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

There's other similar studies all over, but you believe you know more than medical doctors and scientists because you watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones. Again, why should we believe your uneducated, simpleton brain over them?

I'm probably younger than you, how old are you? I've got you pegged as at least 40 but I suspect older, maybe even old enough to be classified as generation X. You're an old, out of touch NPC.

You have the worldview of a fundamentalist evangelical puritanical boomer, so yes, you're a boomer. The future is now, old man.

In that case, 21 weeks is the cutoff because babies can survive at that point, you support limiting abortion to that timeframe?

They can't without medical intervention, but either way, you want to remove body autonomy.

I consider Russia an threat, always have. Doesn't mean they don't do based shit like pass laws against LGBT propaganda. China is also a threat, they do based shit too.

So you love "based" stuff but you're against abortion? Abortion is as based as it gets. Oh, you only love "Based" stuff that lets you discriminate against people you hate. I got it. You'd better hope there's no hell like you religious fundies claim, because Jesus would be pissed at your hypocritical manlet ass.

I know you have autism, which is why you can't fathom things that aren't 0% or 100%, but just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's 0%.


What species is it, then?

It's a human fetus, not a formed human. I know your diseased brain can't handle context, but it's important here, spaz.

Now go turn on Fox News like a good puritanical boomer, then go to your madrassa so you can pray for a trip to Afghanistan so you can be with your fellow theocratic zealots

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

it's called basic biology

Biology has nothing to do with what he said.

what people do with their sperm should be of no concern to you, weirdo. why do you want to control people so badly

Where did I indicate that I want to control him, I just explained how babies work to that retard, and spoiler alert, sperm don't turn into babies.

oh, classy. an antivaxxer. imagine my shock

Where did I say I'm antivax? I'm anti-experimental drug mandates, but I don't want to control your body so go ahead and become a lab rat.

you've made zero arguments, period.

That's untrue, anyone can see that.

arguing with you is pointless since you refuse to use any type of logical thinking.

Absolute projection lololol

cry more, rightoid shitstain.

Great rebuttal! Your emotional outburst means you win, that's the way it works. Congratulations!

stop trying to derail the thread

Requiring him to prove his absurd claim is true possed you off nice and good. I'm glad.

"vax bad!"

Quote anyone here even implying vaccines are bad, let alone me.

"women bad!"

True but men are bad too, there are no "good" people, our righteousness is as filthy rags before the lord. And no, I'm not bringing religion into the matter of abortion, just on the idea of people being good or bad in general.

"libruls retard!"

Fixed.

"NPC!"

True.

you sound like the actual npc meme. & hulk is smarter than you either way, idk why you think being older is bad. older = more wisdom

HAHAHA, he's the dumbest fuck of all dumb fucks. I didn't say older is bad, by the way, but it certainly doesn't always equate to being wiser.

Feels like I hit a nerve, you must be a dried up old woman, barren and worthless. No wonder you support abortion, you're an angry old cat witch

i said i supported that, but there definitely should be wiggle room for exceptions.

Making room for the possibility of exceptions on a case-by-case basis is usually prudent, yes.

find something better to worry about than the gays and maybe focus on controlling your own life instead of other people. oh wait, you don't have a life

Maybe if the gays would shut the fuck up and be normal nobody would worry about them. And I'm sure I have at least as much of a life as you, but that's setting the bar really fucking low.

project much?

Yeah, you do.

not alive

What species is "not alive"? Never heard of it.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Seems like we would rather pop out unwanted babies into a system that is failing kids everyday than just end their life before they’re actually out of the womb.

"I care about children so much that I'll deny them a chance to find their happiness in the world by killing them before they're born."

Do you think we should murder all our orphans, too? They're "unwanted", after all-- that's why they're in need of adoption.

As a matter of fact, what do you propose we do to fix this "failing system"? What resources do we need? How much time do you think it'll take to solve these issues?

I was part of a pro-life organization that saw to several initiatives aimed at supporting single mothers in particular as to help them but also make keeping the child a more attractive option.

I think about that and compare it to you just talking about how the world isn't perfect so we should kill children before they're born to "spare" them. You never mention these issues for the sake of fixing them, even if for the ones that are already born.

Planned parent hood isn’t just about abortions they help with medical issues as well. Why is no one talking about that

Because they're primarily about abortion-- that and birth control overall are what they're known for. That's what the organization was established for.

Humans are aware of their self-awareness for starters.

Are comatose patients not human? Are you not human when you're asleep? Is it possible that chimpanzees are human?

Definitely, being "human" is much more fundamental than bearing metacognition.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

"Murder is okay sometimes depending on arbitrary criteria chosen out of political convenience" = Wow, so nuanced, such IQ, very smert!

Honk honk.

>"Murder is okay sometimes depending on arbitrary criteria chosen out of political convenience" = Wow, so nuanced, such IQ, very smert!

A humanist society that values all human life. Must be anti-war and against the death penalty.

Why? Every single person on any side of either of those issues still believes it is wrong to kill children.

Is this u?

@Hollywood Hulk Hogan (reply bug)
Does technological capability factor into your opinion? As technology improves, we are able to sustain increasingly premature fetuses outside the womb. One day, we might even have artificial wombs that will support the development of a fetus from conception to birth.

 

[gang weeder]

>"Murder is okay sometimes depending on arbitrary criteria chosen out of political convenience" = Wow, so nuanced, such IQ, very smert!


Is this u?

You never explained why opposing baby murder means you must also oppose the death penalty.