The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

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Daily reminder that @Zero Day Defense refuses to abort even a parasitic foetus that threatens its twin's development in the womb. He prioritises foetuses over living babies.
 
No, it's often "you keep deliberately ignoring red flags because you think you love the person" or "they accommodate/fit with your lifestyle". I dealt with a family member that was allegedly in an abusive relationship. My family was middle-class. No issues with abuse. This person was, for a time, very off the rails with an unstable job that happened to mesh with her unstable lifestyle (she was an alcoholic), and she found this guy who was practically a hoodlum. The man lied about his age and initially concealed that he had a baby mama and a son as old as me. They were in a relationship for a year, and somehow she didn't immediately leave even though things had allegedly progressed to physical domestic violence. I met the man-- he wasn't worth anything. It was obvious she stayed with him because he had a roof over his head and she couldn't keep one over hers by herself at the time. It was borderline embarrassing that she was talking about wanting to marry such a person, almost certainly because she figured it her permanent ticket out of her father's supposed oppressiveness and because she thought it would make her "grown".
Oh I get it now, mommy issues, this person had to be a maternal figure otherwise you'd give no fucks.
Listen I dont care if you pitty me or not, go fuckk yourself, just because your mom was irresponsible cunt doesn't give you carte blanche to be a raging incel, just like my mom was irresponsible woman, gives me any reason to to be a female version of ethan ralph.
you act like magically for no reason at all I decided to be a drunk when that was after years upon years of having what little self esteem eroded away buy a toxic and degenerate family from hell. I drank because I was in pain, I wanted pain to go away, and ended up in shitty situations because of it. the fact is even if I had noticed the red flags faggot, I would've considered them normal at 20 because that is how I saw my parents treat each other. you constantly talk about dv, and abusive relationships like your some authority and expert, and think that I a random ass woman on the net need to ahere to your standards of living, and I am telling you your not...go fuck yourself.
 
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Oh I get it now, mommy issues, this person had to be a maternal figure otherwise you'd give no fucks.
Listen I dont care if you pitty me or not, go fuckk yourself, just because your mom was irresponsible cunt doesn't give you carte blanche to be a raging incel, just like my mom was irresponsible woman, gives me any reason to to be a female version of ethan ralph.
you act like magically for no reason at all I decided to be a drunk when that was after years upon years of having what little self esteem eroded away buy a toxic and degenerate family from hell. I drank because I was in pain, I wanted pain to go away, and ended up in shitty situations because of it. the fact is even if I had noticed the red flags faggot, I would've considered them normal at 20 because that is how I saw my parents treat each other. you constantly talk about dv, and abusive relationships like your some authority and expert, and think that I a random ass woman on the net need to ahere to your standards of living, and I am telling you your not...go fuck yourself.
Venting out of control. 🍺:smug:
 
I am a man and I enjoy drinking and whoring out.
Yea, faggots have no shame, we know. More news at 5.

Tell me you've never been in a relationship without telling me you've never been in a relationship.
You are an incel.

In Europe before the 19th Centuary it was considered ok to kill your baby before it got baptized

Yeah and then we realized killing babies is bad. Good point.
holy shit. First of all, never felt particularly strong about abortion. I’ve gone back and forth, landing on pro-choice with restriction & encouraging social stigma/support to reduce abortions. But I’ve got a lot of respect for pro & con because - there’s some very brilliant people on each side. It doesn’t impact me so I’m happy to read their writings & it’s genuinely stimulating. Quite possibly the only thing the Catholic Church did that I can respect is investing in educating a fleet of Catholic bio-ethicists to churn out some interesting arguments. Triggernometry also had some a decent episode a while back from a pro-life doctor. It got me to re-evaluate and try to challenge myself into looking at all the different angles.really try to apply the logic consistently in every situation & if there is inconsistency explore why that would be.

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Tell us the answer to the issue then, if you are so brilliant. Personally I find it disgusting to approach the topic of baby murder as some kind of grand intellectual pursuit for you to jerk yourself off over how smart you are that you can totally see all the 5 billion angles on how maybe killing babies ackchyually is okay if you twist your brain into enough knots.

Oh I get it now, mommy issues, this person had to be a maternal figure otherwise you'd give no fucks.
Listen I dont care if you pitty me or not, go fuckk yourself, just because your mom was irresponsible cunt doesn't give you carte blanche to be a raging incel, just like my mom was irresponsible woman, gives me any reason to to be a female version of ethan ralph.
you act like magically for no reason at all I decided to be a drunk when that was after years upon years of having what little self esteem eroded away buy a toxic and degenerate family from hell. I drank because I was in pain, I wanted pain to go away, and ended up in shitty situations because of it. the fact is even if I had noticed the red flags faggot, I would've considered them normal at 20 because that is how I saw my parents treat each other. you constantly talk about dv, and abusive relationships like your some authority and expert, and think that I a random ass woman on the net need to ahere to your standards of living, and I am telling you your not...go fuck yourself.

So your family and home life was degenerate and fucked up. What a shocker. I can't believe I was able to predict that.

Don't you think, at some point, you would consider adopting moral standards that prevent such situations? They didn't just randomly pop into existence out of nowhere, y'know.
 
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By that logic a human's philosophical and subjective "personhood" could also be rescinded when they're unable to survive independently, meaning as everyone in a coma loses personhood and we can just immediately kill them, right?
It can't be rescinded, once a human, always a human, but a fetus isn't a person yet.
"If they can't survive without machines, they aren't a person." Agree or disagree?
See previous reply
Sperm turn into babies? Guess there's a lot of sock babies out there. Might explain you.
LMAO liberals sure are uneducated.
They can turn into babies. Just like fetuses. Sorry but you puritanical evangelicals are retards who love your megachurch grifters.
The vaccine wasn't even FDA approved and you libtards were screeching to unquestioningly take the experimental drug. That's retarded.
It had FDA authorization. So you really aren't pro-life, you just love fetuses. Do you know why that is? See this quote:
“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
You puritanical evangelicals use the unborn to make you feel morally superior to those harlots who have sex. And it's easy to advocate for them because they ask nothing in return. But once they're born, you don't give a fuck about them because that'd require effort and sacrifice. Jesus would be pissed at you hypocrites. You'd better hope hell isn't real because you and your fellow evangelical puritans will be burning in it if it is
As for masks, they admitted they do virtually nothing. There's some infinitesimal benefit, and I'll take what I can get, but it's far from something game changing either way. The mask mandates are tolerable, but nobody should be coerced into being drug company guinea pigs.
Masks do indeed help. When did they admit they do virtually nothing? I know you have autism, which is why you can't fathom things that aren't 0% or 100%, but just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's 0%.

You really need to stop believing FB memes posted by your fellow boomers
A woman gives birth to a baby on 01-02-01. What was the baby on 01-01-01?
If the baby could've survived outside the womb then, it was a human. Otherwise, it's a fetus.


Let's make a bet.
You prove to me that I support Putin and I will eat a bucket of snails on livestream.
If you can't, then you stop being gay for a week.
I am too lazy to go through your post history but I am sure you've posted at least something in support of BASED RUSSIA before the war started. You're a white nationalist retard from /pol/ so it's a pretty safe bet.

It's literally a human lol
Not yet it's not.
I stopped giving a shit what a moron like you has to say, so I only glanced through your bullshit.
Sex isn't worth killing a baby. That's my only comment.
So you are an incel. I knew it.
 
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Oh I get it now, mommy issues, this person had to be a maternal figure
The person I talked about is still unmarried and was in no way a maternal figure.

you act like magically for no reason at all I decided to be a drunk
I don't care what reasons you had. They don't matter. These were still all choices-- as in, you still chose to poison your body and soul with the drink, and because of that, you put yourself in shitty situations that further poisoned your body and soul. One of them apparently was to be with someone who made you feel as bad as the family you knew made you feel bad.

Speaking of which, you had standards when it came to hoeing (thus your jab about it earlier)... but not intimate partners who more or less started with turning you out on the web.

Altogether, given the life you've led and how you still talk about it, it's evident you're either ignorant or without standing on choice issues, to a grave degree. That's really the point of bringing up your personal life (that you talked about in detail, already) at all.
 
I am too lazy to go through your post history but I am sure you've posted at least something in support of BASED RUSSIA before the war started. You're a white nationalist retard from /pol/ so it's a pretty safe bet.
So what you're saying is you don't think you can stop being gay for a week?
Not yet it's not.
Triple H, nobody fucking cares about your red lines where a human begins or not. A fetus is by any natural means a living human being and no amount of childish nay say will change that. If you can't admit that a fetus is human, then what the fuck are we arguing about?
So you are an incel. I knew it.
That laziness seems to have touched your knowledge center there.
 
@Zero Day Defense, you're such a strong brave man, continuing to shit on @Niggaplease for a situation that so many women have been through, that they couldn't escape from.

It's good to know that you make it very apparent that you're the kind of abusive male that women should steer clear from.
 
Triple H, nobody fucking cares about your red lines where a human begins or not. A fetus is by any natural means a living human being and no amount of childish nay say will change that. If you can't admit that a fetus is human, then what the fuck are we arguing about?
"By any natural means" according to who? You and your fellow puritans who hate science?
That laziness seems to have touched your knowledge center there.
You're the one who is upset on woman will fuck you so you want to punish them.

Double ironic that you claim to be for life when you were tardraging about the vaccine and mask mandates. You only care about the unborn because they're easier to advocate for because they don't require any sacrifice on your part
 
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So your family and home life was degenerate and fucked up. What a shocker. I can't believe I was able to predict that.

Don't you think, at some point, you would consider adopting moral standards that prevent such situations? They didn't just randomly pop into existence out of nowhere, y'know.
well in hindsight if I was given a choice to relieve it all over again, I'd probably still be a drunk, but not let any man in my life during that low point in life. but again I was 20 and barely out of my teens, and kinda naive. probably make the drinking mistake but the man mistake would've been gone. if I didn't learn getting stupid black out drunk was never a good idea then I wouldn't have learned how to get it under control.
I don't care what reasons you had. They don't matter. These were still all choices-- as in, you still chose to poison your body and soul with the drink, and because of that, you put yourself in shitty situations that further poisoned your body and soul. One of them apparently was to be with someone who made you feel as bad as the family you knew made you feel bad.
jesus christ I could cut myself on all this edge, ten times over, my mistakes were mistakes, not some unwashable stain on my soul. I don't consider myself tainted, I consider myself learned. your edginess is tiring, but what else can I expect from a whiney petualant incel?
Speaking of which, you had standards when it came to hoeing (thus your jab about it earlier)... but not intimate partners who more or less started with turning you out on the web.
well duh most hoes have some sort standard, given the amount of crazies willing to kill you because being a hoe.
its as if your telling me water is wet at this point.
Altogether, given the life you've led and how you still talk about it, it's evident you're either ignorant or without standing on choice issues, to a grave degree. That's really the point of bringing up your personal life (that you talked about in detail, already) at all.
beause well one it annoys an angry little manlet I responding too rn, and two I just don't care or feel shame about my past mistakes.
you want me to feel shame but I just don't it happened, shit happens, what you deem morally correct isn't feasible in some sistuations. your opinion means fuck all to me, but I respond because I am kicking the autistic with you. I want you to vomit in disgust because its fun that you take internet shit so seriously, it really makes my day.
 
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