The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Zero Day Defense]

You're a sanctimonious sack of sub-human shit who is exploiting a person's tumultuous history of alcoholism and child abuse,

Apropos of nothing, you posted a photo of a child with a grave deformity on my profile page for shock value, so how about you shut up about sanctimony and exploitation.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

You posted a photo of a child with a grave deformity for shock value on my profile page, shut up about sanctimony and exploitation.

I posted a foetus that you so happily insist on women to carry against their will. What, you don't like it dangling on your page?

Fucking hypocrite.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I posted a foetus

That was a newborn with a grave deformity, but what is your point?

You're talking about sanctimony and exploitation that isn't happening while you posted an image of a suffering child for shock value, and then made sure that the image was in full resolution. That isn't exploitation of the suffering of another?

 

[gang weeder]

You're a sanctimonious sack of sub-human shit who is exploiting a person's tumultuous history of alcoholism and child abuse, turning it against them just so that you may feel better about yourself.

You have to admit, by exposing that information on Kiwifarms of all places, the person made it fair game. No one made her reveal that info. If it were me, I certainly wouldn't have revealed the bit about whoring.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

That was a newborn with a grave deformity, but what is your point?

You're talking about sanctimony and exploitation that isn't happening while you posted an image of a suffering child for shock value, and then made sure that the image was in full resolution.

It is a rare congenital anomaly of "Fetus in fetu." A genetic mishap so terrible it ought to be aborted for everyone's benefit. The only objections to that procedure come from ardent pro-lifers. You don't like it? Is that miracle of life too much to bear?

I won't entertain your misconstrued narrative because the image is publicly available, just like your own comments are on here. Their nature and intent are self-evident.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

You have to admit, by exposing that information on Kiwifarms of all places, the person made it fair game. No one made her reveal that info. If it were me, I certainly wouldn't have revealed the bit about whoring.

I am a man and I enjoy drinking and whoring out.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

It is a rare congenital anomaly

You used a suffering child for shock value. Stop pretending you were trying to "start a conversation".

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

You used a suffering child for shock value. Stop pretending you were trying to "start a conversation".

A fetus in fetu isn't a suffering child. It has no functional brain, heart, lungs, gastrointestinal tract, or urinary tract. It's "alive" in the same way a tumour is "alive." But this is all a digression anyway. You're being deliberately obtuse lol.

 

[Narutard]

You used a suffering child for shock value. Stop pretending you were trying to "start a conversation".

 

[Zero Day Defense]

A fetus in fetu isn't a suffering child.

You posted a picture of a suffering child with a fetus in fetu for shock value. You're the only obtuse one, here.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

You posted a picture of a suffering child with a fetus in fetu for shock value. You're the willingly obtuse one, here.

Would you have relieved that child's health and suffering by aborting the fetus in fetu?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I'd say when they can survive outside the womb

By that logic a human's philosophical and subjective "personhood" could also be rescinded when they're unable to survive independently, meaning as everyone in a coma loses personhood and we can just immediately kill them, right?

Doesn't matter, if they can't survive outside the womb, they aren't a person.

"If they can't survive without machines, they aren't a person." Agree or disagree?

We gotta draw the line somewhere. If not, every time your spaztic ass faps to train anime you're guilty of murdering millions of babies

Sperm turn into babies? Guess there's a lot of sock babies out there. Might explain you.
LMAO liberals sure are uneducated.

It wouldn't be so bad, but you "pro life" people are also tardraging about the vaccine and mask mandates and are generally anti-welfare. You just want to punish women who have sex because you're an incel.

The vaccine wasn't even FDA approved and you libtards were screeching to unquestioningly take the experimental drug. That's retarded.

As for masks, they admitted they do virtually nothing. There's some infinitesimal benefit, and I'll take what I can get, but it's far from something game changing either way. The mask mandates are tolerable, but nobody should be coerced into being drug company guinea pigs.

Good thing a fetus isn't a baby.

A woman gives birth to a baby on 01-02-01. What was the baby on 01-01-01?

it is a spectrum.

Proof?

then link the source. for some reason you seem very opposed to doing that.

I'm not, you asked for the definition and I provided it, I just didn't realize you were accusing me of lying about a definition you could verify yourself in two seconds via Google.

you didn't prove anything to be false.

Untrue.

you don't need to be a biologist to define what a woman is.

Why not?

it's not ending human life.

What form of life is ending during a human's abortion then, duck?

it might be miscarried or die after birth.

So?

i personally think aborting a severely disabled baby is more moral than birthing him or her and letting them suffer.

Perhaps in a case where they'd be in excruciating physical agony there could be some argument for it, but talking edge cases is literally skirting around the issue.

because the comatose dude had a whole life behind him, had feelings, experiences, likely a family that loved him and probably consented to whatever would be done once he was in the coma. fetuses aren't like that.

We're in the present--now--so if you don't value the fetus' future why should the coma patient's past factor in? Stealing away a future is far worse, because the past is the past. What exactly makes a past more valuable than a future?

In other words, that's your own personal and subjective reasoning, not a valid justification.

then his parents were very irresponsible.

That'd be irrelevant.

it's not killing nor is it murder.

It's being killed lmao stop

emotional appeal fallacy

How so?

ok but it isn't being killed nor murdered.

Britannica, kill : "to cause the death of (a person, animal, or plant) : to end the life of (someone or something)"

It doesn't matter what you think. Be it a blade of grass, amoeba, parasite, or a human at any stage of development, "kill" applies to them all.

Britannica, abortion: "a medical procedure used to end a pregnancy and cause the death of the fetus"

Odd how something "not alive" can have a "death", huh, troll?

i already did

Insufficiently.

it's not yet a distinct life nor is it sentient. are you happy now?

Define "distinct life", then I will be happy. I've proved even by 16 weeks they're sentient, by the way.

nope, it is very much not.

Incorrect.

what? then why did you make the argument that your steak was sentient?

You're funny, I'll give you that.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

A fetus in fetu isn't a suffering child. It has no functional brain, heart, lungs, gastrointestinal tract, or urinary tract. It's "alive" in the same way a tumour is "alive."

Would you relieve that child's health suffering by aborting the fetus in fetu?

You posted a photo of a suffering child for shock value, continue to pretend there was intention beyond that, deliberately mislabeled it as the deformity that it suffered, and yet you fail to be consistent between your own statements.

We're done, here.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

You posted a photo of a suffering child for shock value, continue to pretend there was intention beyond that, yet fail to be consistent between your own statements.

We're done, here.

So you wouldn't abort the fetus in fetu that acts as a parasite to its twin, the above-mentioned suffering child?

We are done here! You're happy to let children die to avoid abortion!

 

[murph]

"everyone in a coma loses personhood and we can just immediately kill them, right?"

Yeah. That's what I'd want. I have a Do Not Resuscitate declaration to this effect. After a certain point it's the merciful thing.

I can't reply to you normally for whatever reason, the option isn't there.

Anti-abortion people always forget that abortion is a eugenics program that was designed to limit certain populations, people too dumb or too careless to figure out how to avoid pregnancy.

It has efficiently targeted exactly those populations the world needs fewer of.

I'll be sad to see it go.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

If the relationship started consensually and then the "frog was boiled," so to speak, that means there was every opportunity to leave

Tell me you've never been in a relationship without telling me you've never been in a relationship.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

"everyone in a coma loses personhood and we can just immediately kill them, right?"

Yeah. That's what I'd want. I have a Do Not Resuscitate declaration to this effect. After a certain point it's the merciful thing.

You're free to do foolish things, but that doesn't mean it's good to apply across society. People can wake up from comas, even some pronounced "braindead" have.

Anti-abortion people always forget that abortion is a eugenics program that was designed to limit certain populations, people too dumb or too careless to figure out how to avoid pregnancy.

It has efficiently targeted exactly those populations the world needs fewer of.

I'll be sad to see it go.

It's wrong on principle, and regardless, people you don't want targeted will be effected--not just idiots. Intelligent yet evil women will have abortions just like morons will, if you want eugenics then advocate for it directly.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Ironic coming from the guy who wants to suck the cock of Putin

Let's make a bet.
You prove to me that I support Putin and I will eat a bucket of snails on livestream.
If you can't, then you stop being gay for a week.

Fetus isn't a human yet.

It's literally a human lol

the epic of Triple H's gay rambling continues without end

retarded anime girl rant

I stopped giving a shit what a moron like you has to say, so I only glanced through your bullshit.
Sex isn't worth killing a baby. That's my only comment.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

holy shit. First of all, never felt particularly strong about abortion. I’ve gone back and forth, landing on pro-choice with restriction & encouraging social stigma/support to reduce abortions. But I’ve got a lot of respect for pro & con because - there’s some very brilliant people on each side. It doesn’t impact me so I’m happy to read their writings & it’s genuinely stimulating. Quite possibly the only thing the Catholic Church did that I can respect is investing in educating a fleet of Catholic bio-ethicists to churn out some interesting arguments. Triggernometry also had some a decent episode a while back from a pro-life doctor. It got me to re-evaluate and try to challenge myself into looking at all the different angles.really try to apply the logic consistently in every situation & if there is inconsistency explore why that would be.

I have avoided abortion on KF & this thread because idc that much but waded into the other thread on A&N to ask some (what I thought was fun) hypotheticals and got called out for “emotional manipulation.” Really got my MATI hats going, because to me the hypothetical was kinda fun. Like shit, what a buzzkill. Why would I care enough to be manipulative on fucking KiwiFarms about abortion? Plus the dramatic language wasn’t for emotional shit. I was just trying to be dramatic and interesting.

Then I come in here and see that this topic is as autistic as it gets. It’s not even good arguments. Or original arguments. It’s the same shit you hear everyday about the topic - which is kind of shitty considering KF is usually at least a little more creative than that. It’s just - ugh, guys. Ugh. I hope y’all are having fun, I guess.

Anyway, here’s a retarded hypothetical. A hospital is burning down - and as you run out the building, you see a sick 9 year old in a hospital bed & he is bed bound (can’t move.) Everyone else has left. On the other side of the room, for some reason, is a box of 500 viable embryos that are going to be implanted that month. You are only strong enough to carry one to safety before the building burns down completely. What do you choose: the one, single boy…. Or the box of 500 embryos.

 

[murph]

It's wrong on principle, and regardless, people you don't want targeted will be effected--not just idiots. Intelligent yet evil women will have abortions just like morons will, if you want eugenics then advocate for it directly.

I don't know why "intelligent but evil women" are worth defending. Or their progeny.

Mostly it prevents an explosion in the nigger population but you do you, kang.